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AIBU to feel hurt my son will not visit while my dad lives here?

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Triniette · 25/05/2026 04:17

So I have been up tossing and turning all night and I have no idea what to do about this.
My dad is 85, he doesn’t have any official diagnosis but he is certainly struggling with memory, controlling what he says and mood swings. He lives with DH and I, he has done since my mum passed away 9 years ago. Other than his state pension he has no income, and very little in the way of savings, my parents never owned a property.
Last week my son who is 27 and his relatively new girlfriend came to visit us.
My son’s new girlfriend has a French mother and an Italian father, her skin tone is notably tan though, perhaps what you would associate with south Italy more than anything.
My dad made a very stupid comment, something along the lines of “gosh aren’t you very dark, you wouldn’t think there was any French in you! You’re darker than some of the Italians I know, are you sure your French-Italian”
Now I don’t think my dad meant this maliciously, however I appreciate that it comes across awfully and his intentions don’t matter all that much if hurt is caused.
My son pulled us aside before they left and said it had upset his girlfriend and could my dad apologise. My dad apologised but it was clearly not all that sincere, I don’t think he believed he did anything wrong.

Today we are having a family get together, my son messaged me yesterday saying he and his girlfriend won’t be attending. There was no reason attached so I replied saying that’s okay, I hope all is well. He replied saying that his granddads comment made his girlfriend feel really uncomfortable and neither of them will be back in the house so long as my dad is still there. I replied saying I was really sorry that she had been made to feel uncomfortable and that I would talk to his granddad again as the last thing I would want is for anyone to feel uncomfortable in our home. My son replied saying it is irrelevant, as the damage is already done.

This is quite out of character for my son but I understand he just wants his girlfriend to feel comfortable.

My husband thinks they are being over dramatic and it’s not a massive deal, my dad apologised etc.

My daughter thinks their reaction is valid.

I feel totally stuck, I don’t know what to do with this, I really don’t want to have a bad relationship with my son or his partner.

AIBU to be really hurt he said they won’t come to our home again? We love hosting and all our family events are hosted at home, so he would be really missed.
What do I do?

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Tableforjoan · 25/05/2026 13:48

Shelleyblueeyes · 25/05/2026 13:45

And you obviously had you reasons it happens but in the case here of the OP I hope it doesn't come to that.

All depends on how op reacts. Mine isn’t too different from ops.

Just it was the relatives partner.

godmum56 · 25/05/2026 13:49

SouthLondonMum22 · 25/05/2026 13:06

Yet he understood enough to only target the girlfriend, stop (at least for a while) when OP's son told him to stop and also understood enough to apologise and not mean it because he understood the situation enough to not believe he did anything wrong.

I am guessing its possible he targetted the girlfriend because she is new to him and therefore of more "interest" Stopping and then starting again equally could be a sign of a dementia. Similarly with apologising when told to. There isn't understanding of what he did wrong but he's been told probably forcefully, to "say sorry" so he did. I am not saying that this man absolutely has a dementia, how could I? but nothing that I have read rules it out.

JHound · 25/05/2026 13:51

It was the relentless commenting on physical attributes and the way she speaks that would have grated. As a tall person I never understand why people feel the need to constantly point out I am tall. Do they think I had not noticed?!

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/05/2026 13:52

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 25/05/2026 13:40

@IAmBeaIDrinkTeamy colleague (kiwi) asked if I'm sure I'm just British because I'm way too dark to be English. I tan really easily. I certainly didn't consider that racist.

Take this a stage further. There are Reform and Restore Britain spokespeople who want all Muslims or even all non-white 'immigrants' to be deported. How would you feel about having your ethnicity questioned then? It has happened in my family.

SouthLondonMum22 · 25/05/2026 13:53

godmum56 · 25/05/2026 13:49

I am guessing its possible he targetted the girlfriend because she is new to him and therefore of more "interest" Stopping and then starting again equally could be a sign of a dementia. Similarly with apologising when told to. There isn't understanding of what he did wrong but he's been told probably forcefully, to "say sorry" so he did. I am not saying that this man absolutely has a dementia, how could I? but nothing that I have read rules it out.

Even if he does have dementia, it doesn't mean that the girlfriend has to sit in a room with him and accept those comments. Especially with only OP's son willing to do anything about it.

RogueFemale · 25/05/2026 13:55

@Triniette It might help if your Dad got an official diagnosis of dementia - official 'proof' that he said those things because he's mentally unwell. You might also get some help with caring for him.

Thechaseison71 · 25/05/2026 13:56

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/05/2026 13:31

Well OP can meet her son somewhere else away from the grandfather.

Or the son could visit his family without having the girlfriend glued to his side constantly.

ChalkOutlines · 25/05/2026 13:56

Triniette · 25/05/2026 13:41

Okay I haven’t read all the comments, I understand how the comments may have been taken I really do. In the moment I didn’t take them to be offensive, especially not saying she was tall or slim (she is tall and she is very slim, and neither of these are seen as bad traits? Are people really self conscious about being built like a super model??), she’s clearly a very attractive woman, and maybe I’ve misunderstood what can cause offense as I have always been overweight and would have been delighted if someone called me very slim!
As for the other comment about her skin, I do understand how it could have come across, especially the are you sure you’re French/Italian, which I do see is him implying she isn’t white enough to be those ethnicities.
I should have said something in the moment but most of the comments didn’t initially register as offensive ro me.
Same for her accent, I don’t think my dad was being mean about it, more just noting that she says my sons name differently.
I will apologise for having not said something in the moment.
My son is fully aware of my dad’s cognitive decline, so I guess I expected some understanding.

Did your father make similar comments to other people/your children. before his “decline”? Look back, Keeping in mind that you didn’t think what happened the other day was offensive either, so you might be immune to it.

Laurmolonlabe · 25/05/2026 13:59

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Tableforjoan · 25/05/2026 14:00

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Today’s 80 year olds did that did they

SeeYouThroughACameraFlash · 25/05/2026 14:02

And show support to his awful grandad? Nope. He is showing support to his GF and OP can do that too by still seeing her son and his girlfriend away from the offensive grandad.

ThoughtsOnLife · 25/05/2026 14:02

I think as a young women I would feel equally uncomfortable if a man I did not know seemed to make endless comments on my physical appearance..regardless of their age. I wouldn't wish to repeat the experience.

Mandy54321 · 25/05/2026 14:03

I can't understand why someone didn't interrupt and tell him he was being rude. If no one said anything at the time it may have seemed his comments were agreed with.

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 25/05/2026 14:03

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What, they fought and died in 1946? 😕

rookiemere · 25/05/2026 14:05

RogueFemale · 25/05/2026 13:55

@Triniette It might help if your Dad got an official diagnosis of dementia - official 'proof' that he said those things because he's mentally unwell. You might also get some help with caring for him.

It’s quite difficult to get a dementia diagnosis. There are waiting lists for both the brain scan ( which was not conclusive in either of my DPs case) or the memory clinic. It also relies on the person in question consenting to go to the GP and for both those things to take place.
The DS surely knows what his DGP used to be like. He could cut his DM who is dealing with this day in and out some slack.

Smilesandgiggles2012 · 25/05/2026 14:05

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an 85 year old today wouldn’t of fought in anything. They were 4 when WW2 ended.

Yetone · 25/05/2026 14:07

Thechaseison71 · 25/05/2026 13:56

Or the son could visit his family without having the girlfriend glued to his side constantly.

The son, quite rightly, doesn’t want to see the grandfather.

Triniette · 25/05/2026 14:07

ThoughtsOnLife · 25/05/2026 14:02

I think as a young women I would feel equally uncomfortable if a man I did not know seemed to make endless comments on my physical appearance..regardless of their age. I wouldn't wish to repeat the experience.

I’m curious what’s the line?
He also called her beautiful/has a very very pretty face more than once, is that inappropriate too? I just took that as him complimenting her.

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Tableforjoan · 25/05/2026 14:09

Triniette · 25/05/2026 14:07

I’m curious what’s the line?
He also called her beautiful/has a very very pretty face more than once, is that inappropriate too? I just took that as him complimenting her.

Not that poster but he was commenting on her height her weight and how beautiful and pretty she was especially more than once in this one visit he likely came across as a bit creepy as well as racist / rude with his other remarks.

JaneFondue · 25/05/2026 14:09

Triniette · 25/05/2026 14:07

I’m curious what’s the line?
He also called her beautiful/has a very very pretty face more than once, is that inappropriate too? I just took that as him complimenting her.

Young women of today don't like a lot of personal comments. My DD gets these a lot from men, and hates it. "Nice dress" is fine. Going on about her looks= avoidable.

Thechaseison71 · 25/05/2026 14:10

Yetone · 25/05/2026 14:07

The son, quite rightly, doesn’t want to see the grandfather.

Well that's his choice. But if he knows what his grandfather is like( if it's a common scenario ) why did he even take the girlfriend there? Surely he could've invited his parents to their place

Iocanepowder · 25/05/2026 14:11

Triniette · 25/05/2026 13:41

Okay I haven’t read all the comments, I understand how the comments may have been taken I really do. In the moment I didn’t take them to be offensive, especially not saying she was tall or slim (she is tall and she is very slim, and neither of these are seen as bad traits? Are people really self conscious about being built like a super model??), she’s clearly a very attractive woman, and maybe I’ve misunderstood what can cause offense as I have always been overweight and would have been delighted if someone called me very slim!
As for the other comment about her skin, I do understand how it could have come across, especially the are you sure you’re French/Italian, which I do see is him implying she isn’t white enough to be those ethnicities.
I should have said something in the moment but most of the comments didn’t initially register as offensive ro me.
Same for her accent, I don’t think my dad was being mean about it, more just noting that she says my sons name differently.
I will apologise for having not said something in the moment.
My son is fully aware of my dad’s cognitive decline, so I guess I expected some understanding.

Regarding your thoughts about it being nice to hear that you are slim, i think it’s possibly more about an elderly man’s need to comment on her several aspects of her appearance in the first place. It’s completely understandable she was uncomfortable.

Tbh, from my personal experience, you can’t always justify or explain this kind of attitude from elderly people by cognitive decline. Some of them are just like that anyway and are set in their ways. They can more likely to express these things openly that younger generations.

bigboykitty · 25/05/2026 14:12

Triniette · 25/05/2026 14:07

I’m curious what’s the line?
He also called her beautiful/has a very very pretty face more than once, is that inappropriate too? I just took that as him complimenting her.

It's all grossly inappropriate.

Decacaffeinatednow · 25/05/2026 14:12

@Triniette
Yes - any personal remarks are inappropriate. Are you new to MN? There are many posts about women being the target of unwanted comments from men and the general view taken is that the men making the comments are pervy sleazes.

SouthLondonMum22 · 25/05/2026 14:13

Triniette · 25/05/2026 14:07

I’m curious what’s the line?
He also called her beautiful/has a very very pretty face more than once, is that inappropriate too? I just took that as him complimenting her.

Of course it is. Not to mention creepy.