Really depressed I didn’t just go on Ozempic - only maintained for a year

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I don’t know I really need a rant.

I feel really angry and upset at myself. To the point i just want to scream/cry.

Last year i lost 55 pounds without glp 1s. I totally cut out carbs (well I’d eat sweet potatoes if absolutely necessary). And just made an effort not to use food as a crutch. It worked fairly well as the weight came off.

I decided I needed more moderation. The no carb thing was just making me have cravings. So I started eating jackets, pasta salads etc. Not ideal as I have pcos but I try to be sensible. Ie having cooled down pasta to make it resistant or whatever. Not smothering pasta in cheese etc.

Its meant my weight loss has completely stalled. I’m happy that I’ve not gained all the weight back. But still. I’ve been eating in moderation for a year and not lost weight! I can’t deny this anger is compounded by the fact I saw my friend for lunch today. She’s lost 5 stone in 5 months using Mounjaro.

I just want to weep. I wish I just started on Ozempic or similar. I’m at my goal weight but to be honest I’d love another stone off. I don’t know why I didn’t go
on a glp 1. I just knew in my heart that my weight was not “inexplicable”. I was eating far too much out of boredom.

Just another sunny day wasted hating myself even though I’ve tried 😢

I’ve been going to the gym too. How pathetic to be this mindful and to not have lost any weight.

I don’t agree with comparing it to Chemo. I find that comment entitled and lacking massively in empathy.

Remember when you quote someone saying it’s not your business you’ve already shot yourself in the foot by making my opinion your business.

Also your assumption that people buying the jabs are not receiving public money to fund it is incorrect.

It’s all life saving meds.

What assumption that people aren’t receiving public money? I haven’t mentioned that anywhere…

Im not saying this thread is noones business? Or that they can’t comment on the question being asked. I’m saying someone else’s method of weight loss isn’t their business. That’s fairly inarguable.

And you might find the comparison offensive, but I don’t. To me, they’re both medications to treat medical conditions. I find the constant criticism of weight loss injections, almost exclusively by people that have never used them, massively lacking in empathy. We’re all different aren’t we.

It’s not my business how they lose weight. My view was pointed at the comment Chemo and weight loss injections deserve the same empathy. I disagree. Let’s picture a 3 year old going through chemotherapy. No choice, suffering everyday. Stem cells etc. Now let’s muster up the same empathy for an adult, someone laying out a couple of hundred quid a month, I can think that’s silly and not even comparable.

It doesn’t make me unkind. Just I see a huge difference between the two.

(My example is probably me projecting but I’d feel the same for any human having to endure chemo.)

Someone paying for their medication is irrelevant, do you have less sympathy for people in countries that don’t have free healthcare? Or feel more sympathy for people receiving Varenicline or Methadone for smoking or opiate cessation because they don’t need to pay for it on the NHS?

For GLP1s specifically, if a patient is prescribed them by a doctor because they have a BMI of 40+ and 4 co morbidities, is it OK to empathise then? But if they only have 3 co morbidities, they can’t have empathy? I’m trying to work out where to draw the line. Type 2 diabetics on GLP1s are OK? Even though their issues are likely able to be managed through diet alone too?

I think it’s clear you’ve never needed a GLP1 to manage your weight, and that’s fine, you can’t understand how it would be necessary. Totally get that. But it’s wild to me that people have such an entitlement to comment on the medications other people are prescribed and their worthiness to have them, when they don’t concern them at all.

I’m disagreeing with the comparison to Chemo. That’s where you decided to disagree with me. You’ve missed my point in your desperation to convince everyone injections are fine.

Reread my comments (where you commented) and then give me an answer which links even close to my point.

Injections are fine. But I’m not trying to convince anyone of that, I don’t care if anyone else takes them or doesn’t - it makes literally no odds to me, as it doesn’t to you if someone does take them. What I care about is the endless judgement from other people.

I am entitled to make the comparison to chemo (and insulin, which I presume was Ok for me to use as you’ve not made a comment on that). Both are prescribed medications to treat medical conditions. You don’t have to like it, which again is fine. But that doesn’t make my comparison wrong.

There's no "extra effort" dont be dim. Obesity kills more people than pretty much everything else. Its a major risk factor for every other disease.
But sure you carry because youve lost your moral superiority of judging every fat person as stupid and lazy.

Well id say you've done absolutely amazing you've shown determination been mindful of you're health .
You haven't just wanted a quick fix .
Remember losing weight keeping healthy keeping weight off is all about changing eating habits changing a mindset .
Lots of people taking weight loss jabs still dont exercise and do not change their mindset.
I'd say you have .. just keep going do it the right way x

Then they mostly dont lose weight. Their diabetic control may improve but unless they do actually reduce net calories they dont magically lose weight.
I work with people using these meds every day im not just using tik tok and the moral superiority that slim people seem to have

You think cutting out an entire food group for a year is being mindful of their health?

What is this weird conspiracy thing developing, the poster clearly isn’t desperate to convince people they are fine. We even saw someone bizzarely think folks were selling them, that’s what looks desperate.

amd why do people think random strangers are desperate to have them take them, no one literally cares if you stay fat, are slim or take them or not. No one.

Ozempic is actually ok to criticise because people who use it also use it for vanity. Not many would volunteer for Chemo to lose weight! You may know absolutely no one would do that unless it meant saving their own life.

There’s your difference. That’s my thinking. If anything you’ve made me think even less of people using weight loss injections. It didn’t occur to me that anyone would compare it to having chemo!

Ozempic isn’t prescribed for weight loss in the UK. And why does someone using it for vanity (which would mean it was being used outside of its intended purpose) mean it’s OK to feel no empathy for anyone that does need it?

of course it wouldn’t occur to you that it’s just like any other medication to save a life because to you being fat isn’t worthy of empathy. Obesity kills people, this drug is prescribed to prevent that, or at the least to prevent the very serious medical complications that come from being obese.

Your feelings about WLI users was clear from the start, nothing I’ve said has changed that. But even if it has, it doesn’t matter to me, I’m not here to promote them, sell them, encourage people to use them. I don’t work for Eli Lilly 😂

With the greatest of respect, you need to get out of this mindset.

You are a healthy weight. You don't look "awful"; would you say this about a woman your size you saw on the street?

You need to be kind to yourself, and I would say therapy might be helpful. You've maintained an amazing weight loss for a year, and are in a "normal" weight range.

GLP1 won't make you happy with your body, because nothing will. Believe me, I know, I am in a similar situation just 2 stone heavier and ten years old.

Be kind to yourself and your body. It's the only one you've got, enjoy it.

Do you think everyone who takes Ozempic is obese? Don’t be silly. You’re desperate to change my argument.

I don’t agree Chemo and Ozempic deserve the same amount of empathy. That’s it.

I don’t care who injects themselves. You obviously want to look better so go for it. Good luck.

@HobGobblynne I was literally praising the op. I wasn’t saying anyone should be more proud or less proud. I don’t really care how anyone lost weight just that she should be proud of her body.
some people on this board would absolutely like to have lost weight not using WLI and all the side effects, cost and likely long term need. That’s all.

That was pretty horrible to say I was comparing not needing chemo to be proud. Not comparable and not ever what I meant.

You sound like you have a very unhealthy attitude to weight.

I had advanced colon cancer. I could put food in my mouth and chew and swallow, but the consequences were very severe.

So I survived on milk. I didn't eat. For quite a long time.

All you "food noise" people, would the noise have been so bad you kept stuffing your face or would you miraculously have got some willpower from somewhere? Would you have needed a shot of Ozempic to go with your cancer?

I wonder this all the time.

Youv e reached goal weight. That’s fabulous. Be proud!
Youve got wobbly bits….. surely what you need is not WLI but working out, weights etc. And learn to love yourself for who you are.

This is interesting. You must think people will be wounded you think less of them, but the reality is no one knows you or cares what you think,

why it’s interesting is your resentment is palpable. You deeply resent people getting these drugs and being slim. And I’m going to hazard a guess it’s women you resent getting them,

I do wonder why, do you want them. Do you suffer from envy of other women. Equate slim with conventional attractiveness.

the reality is the vast majority of women who take these meds are obese to start with. Obesity is a killer. It is the leading cause of cancer in non smokers, second in smokers, it causes heart attack, stroke, diabetes, fatty liver, and many other life limiting conditions. Managing it has enormous benefits to both the individual and to society,

yes there are a minority of non obese women who take them as they wish to be slimmer, but it is their choice, the drugs are clearly safe, the stats show us this, and so what if they wish to be slimmer. It’s not a moral failing. If it makes them feel good about themselves I’m supportive.

and yes many of the ones who were obese absolutely love it when they become slim, they enjoy their appearance again. Become more confident, happier. Mental health is important too.

and yes they can all stay on, avoid the struggle to maintain their weight, and that’s also a positive.

no one who takes the drugs, no one, does it as a first resort. Everyone tries dieting first off, but again we know it is incredibly difficult for individuals to not just get weight off, but keep it off. 80 percent regain it all back within 5 years.

these drugs are a huge advancement in medical science, a fabulous and life saving step forward. And here you are full of resentment and being bitter.

and it’s interesting to ask why,

Op this is about how you feel about yourself

if you have used wli’s you would still be beating yourself up

you have done fantastically well let yourself be proud of yourself

and wear those nice clothes I promise you no one is scrutinising yourself as much as you are. I wish I had understood this years ago but I didn’t but it’s honestly true

Im sorry you went through this but what a horrible post.

Also known as I don’t have an argument so I will attempt several “paragraphs” whilst I tell someone their opinion does not count.

Not how it works here.

Also. Read my argument. You’ve quoted it. Interestingly, you have avoided challenging any of the points in it. Why is that? I’m “Interested” 😉

Great post. You missed the main reason slim people hate WLI.
They've lost their skinny moral superiority. Their belief that being skinny means they are better. They eat better have better self control better strength look better just overall better.
And its because fat people have failed. Just dont try hard enough. Because we're lazy and stupid.
And what WLI have done is shown that's just not true. Its proven that obesity is a medical condition that can be treated.
And they hate that. But they can't say it. So they dress it up with fake concern and pseudoscience babble.