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To wish I’d never had children

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thegreenlight · 21/05/2026 20:11

I have 2 autistic/adhd boys 8 and 13. The eldest has been difficult all his life, spiky and hard to please. Awful behaviour at school from nursery. Behaving inappropriately with others. He hates talking about anything other than his interests and struggles with friendships but very bright. Currently out of school due to mental health issues and we are waiting for his EHCP to come through. I genuinely can’t think of a single time I have been proud of him like a normal mum would be. No awards, sports, good reports, friendships. Everything has been fraught and hard. Youngest is the opposite, developmentally delayed and very loving but again, no sports, friends or normal activities. He too misbehaves at school.

My eldest was just shouting about no one understanding him, how nothing ever goes right for him and how his life is so awful and my husband said after when I was upset ‘they’ll grow up and leave and then it will be just us again’. So what was the point? Why bother having them? I never wanted children, my husband did and basically gave me an ultimatum that at some time in his life he wanted children. We waited until I was 30 and had been married 9 years. I just wish I hadn’t caved. I take very little joy in them. My life has been such a mistake.

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Paramaribo2025 · 21/05/2026 23:39

Autism is highly genetic. Do you or your husband have it too?

Caplin · 21/05/2026 23:44

Not sure if what I say. An be helpful. Both my younger siblings were autistic, one was also ADHD and oppositional defiance, the other was obsessed with gang culture and drugs and had arrested development at 16.

You may have your kids with you for many years to come, they may not cope in the world. My youngest sibling never coped. He stayed at home into his thirties and sadly his addictions killed him.

My sister has had a few false starts in life, had to come home a few times, needed bailed out many times. But she is coping as a single parent escaping and abusing marriage.

So it is hard, you may be juggling this for many years to come, maybe forever. But my sister has finally graduated, she is doing great, her kids are great, her diagnosis means we all now understand her better.

SwirlingAroundSleep · 21/05/2026 23:47

Is there an autism hub or something near to you? We have one and it has regular events as well as links specifically to a PODS group with events for families of children with special needs. Just a suggestion if you’re looking for somewhere that your children can fit in and you can perhaps meet other parents who sympathise.

I deeply wanted children and have step children, one of whom is autistic and ADHD and I knew it the first day I met him (even though he was undiagnosed I knew in minutes) but I still chose to love him anyway. It’s incredibly hard at times, even though his dad does almost everything for him, but I know I chose to have him in my life. I can’t imagine how hard it is when you didn’t really want to be a parent in the first place.

tallulahlulah · 21/05/2026 23:59

tallulahlulah · 21/05/2026 22:21

Name change as I'm going to sound awful here.

There can be an alternative @thegreenlight. Not for everyone, but for some.

We have four DCs, all of which are ND to some degree but two severely.

My eldest DS is now 18. He has autism and ADHD and has been violent and unmanageable all his life. Like OP describes, he has never has a friend and has not been invited to a single birthday party in all those years. He is capable of mainstream school but was constantly in trouble. He was excluded from schools three times (or would have been, but each time the HM called us in for the "we're not sure this is the right school" conversation so we jumped before we were pushed). At home he was aggressive towards DH and me and frequently physically assaulted his three younger siblings. DH intervened when it got physical (only to prevent him getting to them) but as DS approached adulthood it became clear that DH (in his 50s) may not always have been able to protect them. For the last two or three years we didn't cope in any meaningful way and in the end we allowed him to spend all his time he wasn't at school in his room because he was sort of happy and that was easier. Nobody cared. Since he was five we had door after door slammed shut, no support whatsoever.

When he was 17 and a half his college suggested we try adult services at our local council and they have been amazing. They couldn't do anything formal until he turned 18 but they could help us prepare and days after his 18th birthday DS moved into supported housing about 45 minutes away from us, initially for short week placement in a special unit to help young people transition and then into a "permanent" home with four other young men and full time support. This is all funded via UC and housing support.

We speak to him every day and typically see him about twice a week for a couple of hours, either to take him out for lunch or because he has an appointment or, to be honest, because he is in trouble. He shouts and swears at us as he always did, but somehow it's manageable as we return to a calmer house and he goes to his. The carers who live in the house in shifts are saints.

I know this will sound like we are terrible people and have failed him as parents, but to be honest I think this is the solution that has given us an option to continue in a relationship with him. Otherwise I just don't know how we would have coped with things on the downward trajectory they were on.

I guess I am posting this because OP's DH said they will eventually move out and lots of people have doubted that. It may not be possible, or appropriate, or desirable for many, but it can happen. OP's description of life with her DS struck a lot of chords with our own experience so I thought I would share a tiny bit of our own trainwreck journey.

Bracing myself to be torn to shreds.

And to be clear, I said a calmer house, not a calm house.

Our third child, DD (15) came home from school today and announced that "I need a new phone and I'm not paying for it", and dropped a Tesco food bag containing an iPhone in about 16 pieces onto the kitchen table.

So, what happened? I asked.

"I wasn't having a good day and the phone was in my hand so I smashed it."

She has an EHCP but no diagnosis. Is not autistic according to the psych. So far oppositional defiant disorder is our best guess, but that comes from the teachers at her special school and is not an official diagnosis. It translates into "every day is war".

I respect all of the parents on here who relay awful stories but still insist "I love them with every bit of my heart".

I will confess I have moments of doubt.

OneFineDay22 · 21/05/2026 23:59

Did you have a traumatic birth? PND often follows a traumatic birth, and trauma therapy can have a huge effect on ASD and ADHD etc.

Therapy in general might be a good idea.

Also, there is nothing in it for parents, really. You’ve supported your kids interests which is all anyone with sporty award winning kids would be doing. I wasn’t sporty or award winning. Loads of kids aren’t. And if I had been, how would that have been “something in it” for my DM?

DefiantRabbit9 · 22/05/2026 00:02

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 21/05/2026 20:15

How does your husband even think they'll leave home? How does he think they'll afford to?

It's possible my brother was diagnosed with Asperger's in the 90's when they were just considered 'slow' or 'odd'. He works in finance and has a fully paid off flat which he keeps on top of. They don't like change so you pretty much have to coax them out.

Itsnotfunbeingobtuse · 22/05/2026 00:07

thegreenlight · 21/05/2026 20:20

I wish I hadn’t - I have poured so much in to get so little out. I have no mum friends as their behaviour is so odd we never get invited anywhere. No parties, no play dates. I have been on edge and hyper vigilant for triggers and risks for so so long. I’m just so tired.

Do either you or your husband have autism/adhd? As I think if you are, you should have known the likelihood of your children having these too and could have made informed decisions pre-babies and not regret them now. Remember, they didn’t ask to be born and deserve two loving parents who want them no matter their behaviour.

Are your children on medication for their ADHD? I’ve seen the transformations in children once they are. It’s a much more pleasant and peaceful life for them rather than everyone hating on their behaviour which is out of their control.

Schnapps00 · 22/05/2026 00:07

tallulahlulah · 21/05/2026 22:21

Name change as I'm going to sound awful here.

There can be an alternative @thegreenlight. Not for everyone, but for some.

We have four DCs, all of which are ND to some degree but two severely.

My eldest DS is now 18. He has autism and ADHD and has been violent and unmanageable all his life. Like OP describes, he has never has a friend and has not been invited to a single birthday party in all those years. He is capable of mainstream school but was constantly in trouble. He was excluded from schools three times (or would have been, but each time the HM called us in for the "we're not sure this is the right school" conversation so we jumped before we were pushed). At home he was aggressive towards DH and me and frequently physically assaulted his three younger siblings. DH intervened when it got physical (only to prevent him getting to them) but as DS approached adulthood it became clear that DH (in his 50s) may not always have been able to protect them. For the last two or three years we didn't cope in any meaningful way and in the end we allowed him to spend all his time he wasn't at school in his room because he was sort of happy and that was easier. Nobody cared. Since he was five we had door after door slammed shut, no support whatsoever.

When he was 17 and a half his college suggested we try adult services at our local council and they have been amazing. They couldn't do anything formal until he turned 18 but they could help us prepare and days after his 18th birthday DS moved into supported housing about 45 minutes away from us, initially for short week placement in a special unit to help young people transition and then into a "permanent" home with four other young men and full time support. This is all funded via UC and housing support.

We speak to him every day and typically see him about twice a week for a couple of hours, either to take him out for lunch or because he has an appointment or, to be honest, because he is in trouble. He shouts and swears at us as he always did, but somehow it's manageable as we return to a calmer house and he goes to his. The carers who live in the house in shifts are saints.

I know this will sound like we are terrible people and have failed him as parents, but to be honest I think this is the solution that has given us an option to continue in a relationship with him. Otherwise I just don't know how we would have coped with things on the downward trajectory they were on.

I guess I am posting this because OP's DH said they will eventually move out and lots of people have doubted that. It may not be possible, or appropriate, or desirable for many, but it can happen. OP's description of life with her DS struck a lot of chords with our own experience so I thought I would share a tiny bit of our own trainwreck journey.

Bracing myself to be torn to shreds.

Couldn't read and not stop to say what a great set up it sounds like your son has, and very sensible all round. Perhaps he loves having his (relative) independence like any 18 year old? Don't beat yourself up for a second, just because adult children need extra support doesn't mean it needs to all come from parents. Same can be true for older relatives, some people run themselves into the ground caring for them, but it can thoroughly ruin the relationship.

Dragonflyspeeding · 22/05/2026 00:07

thegreenlight · 21/05/2026 21:41

I don’t know what ‘me’ time is any more. I don’t know who I am. Ive changed careers, lost weight, learnt to play an instrument, but nothing gives me joy as it’s just treading water before the next crisis. My brain is always elsewhere worrying about them. I get no peace.

This is how I've always felt since having kids.
I think I might have managed it with one. But doing it all a second time, going through all the crisis, trauma and drama. I sincerely wish I'd never had children.

Calliopespa · 22/05/2026 00:15

thegreenlight · 21/05/2026 20:20

I wish I hadn’t - I have poured so much in to get so little out. I have no mum friends as their behaviour is so odd we never get invited anywhere. No parties, no play dates. I have been on edge and hyper vigilant for triggers and risks for so so long. I’m just so tired.

I'm sorry Op, that sounds really hard and this is a very honest thread. I am sure many people might feel similarly in similar circumstances.

My hope for you is that things change. We can never give up on our dc as parents, and that job is easier for some than others. But there may be joys round the corner you don't expect. Your youngest is loving: that is something some parents never get to experience.

And I hope this is helpful but all parents find it tough at times. Some may have less reason to, but I think everyone has moments when dc seem very "style-cramping" and hard work. You are not alone.

Morrisons26 · 22/05/2026 00:22

I’m so sorry OP. I know the loneliness. It’s so very very hard watching them
struggle and seeing how other parents seem to have a very different experience while you instead mourn and feel sad and defeated.

i sometimes feel I can’t face another day of it. The sadness, the rejection, the relentlessness of it all with no hope.

I’ve had a lot of therapy which has helped a bit. I found a therapy called acceptance and commitment therapy. It’s helped a bit. I hope you can find some relief, somewhere. It sounds like you need some time away, just for you with a good friend.

fruitfly3 · 22/05/2026 00:36

Hand hold OP. Totally reasonable to feel like that - for you and for them. Parenting ND children is gruelling with the challenges complex and largely difficult to overcome. It’s lonely, sad and frustrating. With the benefit of hindsight, you’d never choose to put yourself through that again. I don’t have advice but I’m sorry you are feeling so terrible. You’re not alone.

3luckystars · 22/05/2026 01:25

thegreenlight · 21/05/2026 20:20

I wish I hadn’t - I have poured so much in to get so little out. I have no mum friends as their behaviour is so odd we never get invited anywhere. No parties, no play dates. I have been on edge and hyper vigilant for triggers and risks for so so long. I’m just so tired.

That’s all it is. You are exhausted from it. It’s so so hard. But you gave it everything and that was the point.

Don’t let it change you. You are a person who made a huge effort for their children, despite no rewards.

They are lucky they got you. Mind yourself, rest and try and recover.

3luckystars · 22/05/2026 01:29

thegreenlight · 21/05/2026 20:31

I deserve a kicking - it must be something I’ve done. I’ve tried so hard to give them everything at the expense of myself but it’s got me no where. I feel their pain and confusion so deeply in every fibre of my being. I’ve fought so hard for them but I can’t say I’ve enjoyed it. I’ve tried, I’ve plastered on a smile. People describe me as an eternal optimist, always smiling. But it’s a lie.

Has your husband got a diagnosis too? He has left you do it all. You are burned out.

UraniumFlowerpot · 22/05/2026 01:46

It’s okay to wish you hadn’t had them. Really it is. It sounds like you need to grieve. It’s not only how hard things are with two high needs children but also the lack of the family you dreamed of AND the loss of the childfree life you might have had. You planned for no kids, the freedom and fun. Then you planned and hoped for children with a lower level of needs (which is what most people having kids hope for). You could see that parenting is hard but also that there are fun days and proud moments and so on. You’ve missed out on many of those things. It’s a lot to grieve and the pain over those lost possible lives doesn’t take away from the fact you love your kids.

Ultimately you just have to keep on, brutal as that is. It could help mentally to recognize that life will be harder for them and you simply can’t fix that entirely and put some boundaries on how much you sacrifice for them. If that’s possible.

Sorry, I wish I had actually useful advice to give but I wanted to at least say that it is okay to wish life were different and to make space for the huge amount of loss you’re experiencing.

Muffinmam · 22/05/2026 02:45

As a mother of an autistic child I understand.

I think a lot of parents of autistic children understand what you’re going through.

Why are you smiling? I don’t even bother. I was at the point that I couldn’t stand even hearing a synopsis of my child’s therapy. I don’t understand why they tell me any more.

I think your situation is compounded by you feeling forced to have children who ended up with special needs.

I look around at other parents of autistic children/adults and I don’t understand how they cope.

Your reality is your kids won’t be moving out when they are 18. Surely your husband knows this. They won’t turn 18 and suddenly be self reliant.

Noras · 22/05/2026 04:08

I think it’s a matter of recognising the grief for the children you hoped to have but did not have but also realising that you have to plough on. It’s a hard juggle but you are entitled to feel as you do to a degree but then your kids need you so you just have to brush yourself down and get on with it. I did this my taking myself mentally away from conventions ideas of successful parenting and giving myself my own goals. By ploughing my own furrow I was able to cope mentally with things better.

For me, to overcome any negativity, I had to accept and celebrate my son’s differing achievement. At an early stage Portage helped me with this, so when other kids were doing jigsaw puzzles at aged 3, I celebrated the fact that my son could put a ball though a toilet roll.

Up until the age of 11/12 things were a blur as he was hugely developmentally delayed eg intermittent speech with gobby gook and poor motor development eg not learning to touch his nose until aged 11. However, as I had been told that most likely he would have global delays, the fact that he could talk, walk and sort of run ( if not alternate feet at that time) was a brilliant thing.

I sacrificed everything to educate him. Due to a clear and ambiguous NHS report ( he needed 5:1 class size) we were offered funding for SEN schools but thy were boarding schools miles away. So I kept him in mainstream but taught him at home in the evenings/ early mornings.

I read about the positive impact of Drama and persuaded a Drama teacher to take him on. This was better than language therapy that I struggled to access privately and his scant direct SALT was not that useful/ they turned up late / did half the session and then at review wrote the SALT out and said he would never get better.

I read about every OT exercise and did those at home with him as his scant direct therapy was inadequate, I paid for 1:1 swimming lessons to help build up his muscles even if he could not improve his muscle tone.

I spent hours doing memory exercises with him. I walked him home ( over an hour each way) and we did mental exercises including writing imaginary letters to his pets ( to encourage language skills, memory and social understanding).

He went from P level poetry recitals ( nursery level) to learning Shakespeare in 5 years. He got into National Youth Theatre.

Throughout this, I was constantly told by school that my ambitions for my son were unrealistic and to accept that he might end up with no qualifications. He got GCSES and one good and 2 poor A Levels and is now at university.

Things can change. Some things can improve, some thing can worsen. My son’s moods at times and obsessions have been exhausting. He is having private counselling as it’s beyond our ability to sort it out. His bowel issues have sent me demented. On the positive front I got him a bit of equipment to unblock the loo and he is learning to deal with this himself to a degree.

He is currently obsessed at aged 22 in trying to make cakes [ not cook proper food ) so we have to supervise / support him ( he needs help with cutting, opening packets etc ) There are times that I want to scream when he talks endlessly about what cake he wants to make. I dread him going near the kitchen and feel obligated to supervise or DH has to otherwise he will burn something or chop his finger etc. ( it’s almost blackmailing ie I’m going to try to cook regardless so you had better help me) He had been out all day with me but decided at 9pm that a cake had to be made!

You take what success you have and celebrate it and brace yourselves against the negative. My son expressed an opinion or a need that his PA was too busy on his phone to tslk to him. This was a first that he expressed a need, so a cause for celebration even if the conversation was a sad one. He has been known not to clean his teeth for months because he could not find the charger and I did not know this. ( I felt dreadful when I discovered this as I should have been more vigilant and actively checked everything eg is he shaving / is he properly brushing his teeth) So I now know thst I have to supervise more closely his routine and not just prompt ( he will say he has eg changed his t shirt but he had not). The fact that he expressed a need/ opinion about his PA was therefore huge.

You have to find your own sense of achievement and your own ideas of ‘success’ as a parent, I hear parents talking about their kids struggles at school when they are heading to top universities and let it wash over. I’m not in the same space as them.

It used to hurt me so much when my son was young but now it does not hurt as much. It was hard to see all the boys form friendships over football and see the parents form attachments that way. It felt like a club that I was not part of.

I think that the exclusion and isolation you feel as a SEN parent is the worse thing. It’s not only your kids but you who are othered.

Eventually you go to groups and as others say you find your own tribe and support each other.As your kids grow up they will find their own groups maybe and that also helps as they feel happier in themselves knowing that they are not alone. There is a lovely disability group my son goes to and looking at them all together I think it’s a nonsense when they talk about invisible disabilities - maybe at some level but not at this level. They are an obvious disabled group but all lovely together.

For me, it’s still rubbish at times, it’s exhausting having to arrange the PA times, the therapies, work experience and mentoring sessions. It has defined my life - I tried to go back to work but I had so many endless meeting for my son’s transition it was impossible. My son still needs weekly counselling. We can’t have a holiday without DS without getting social services panel approval for PA hours. I feel trapped at times. I have a DH who is relatively successful but his work is long hours. I feel lonely at times.

However, I try to get comfort from all that my son has achieved which to many might not seem so huge but to me has been a miracle. He most likely will never live independently but I will make sure that he has a rich and rewarding life full of interest and try to make his future as secure as possible.

So I guess what I am trying to say is that you set your own notions of success as a parent and give your own self a pat on the back when you achieve those levels. My advice is find other things you enjoy and you can do eg I have been learning a language. Surround yourself my positive and caring friends who accept you as a package. ( My friends ensure there is a quiet room for my son to visit as well and give him food there etc). Celebrate the good job you are doing as a parent.

You are a refreshingly honest parent who speaks candidly about your feelings. That in itself is a huge achievement. You are doing a great job and to recognise how tough it is and to speak about it is a great thing. I bet that you have many other achievements and successes. So please don’t be hard on yourself ever. We have all felt miserable, low and trapped. It’s normal but it does get better.

FoldThreePiece · 22/05/2026 04:51

Surely there must be some respite care you can look iinto? My SIL used to look after a child quite frequently this way.

Also as adults, there is assisted living that they can move into, I know not relevant now, but when they are adults.

Purpleturtle45 · 22/05/2026 05:31

You sound like a great Mum who is doing all you can for your kids. It sounds so difficult and so frustrating that you have to fight so hard for any support.

Stressedoutmummyof3 · 22/05/2026 05:31

tallulahlulah · 21/05/2026 22:21

Name change as I'm going to sound awful here.

There can be an alternative @thegreenlight. Not for everyone, but for some.

We have four DCs, all of which are ND to some degree but two severely.

My eldest DS is now 18. He has autism and ADHD and has been violent and unmanageable all his life. Like OP describes, he has never has a friend and has not been invited to a single birthday party in all those years. He is capable of mainstream school but was constantly in trouble. He was excluded from schools three times (or would have been, but each time the HM called us in for the "we're not sure this is the right school" conversation so we jumped before we were pushed). At home he was aggressive towards DH and me and frequently physically assaulted his three younger siblings. DH intervened when it got physical (only to prevent him getting to them) but as DS approached adulthood it became clear that DH (in his 50s) may not always have been able to protect them. For the last two or three years we didn't cope in any meaningful way and in the end we allowed him to spend all his time he wasn't at school in his room because he was sort of happy and that was easier. Nobody cared. Since he was five we had door after door slammed shut, no support whatsoever.

When he was 17 and a half his college suggested we try adult services at our local council and they have been amazing. They couldn't do anything formal until he turned 18 but they could help us prepare and days after his 18th birthday DS moved into supported housing about 45 minutes away from us, initially for short week placement in a special unit to help young people transition and then into a "permanent" home with four other young men and full time support. This is all funded via UC and housing support.

We speak to him every day and typically see him about twice a week for a couple of hours, either to take him out for lunch or because he has an appointment or, to be honest, because he is in trouble. He shouts and swears at us as he always did, but somehow it's manageable as we return to a calmer house and he goes to his. The carers who live in the house in shifts are saints.

I know this will sound like we are terrible people and have failed him as parents, but to be honest I think this is the solution that has given us an option to continue in a relationship with him. Otherwise I just don't know how we would have coped with things on the downward trajectory they were on.

I guess I am posting this because OP's DH said they will eventually move out and lots of people have doubted that. It may not be possible, or appropriate, or desirable for many, but it can happen. OP's description of life with her DS struck a lot of chords with our own experience so I thought I would share a tiny bit of our own trainwreck journey.

Bracing myself to be torn to shreds.

Why would you be torn to shreds (although MN can be strange at times)?
You have done the best thing for all your children. Sounds like your younger three needed protecting and your eldest is getting support and help from trained carers. Sounds like you're very good parents. Of course it's harder as they get older. My 17; year old hasn't been violent but my almost 6 year.old can be and he's strong. I really worry about how DH and I will cope as he gets older, especially as we're already older parents.

Thesafetygeneral · 22/05/2026 05:35

I’m so sorry to read this. It sounds like you’re having such a rough time. Could you speak to your GP as you sounds like you could do weigh some support too.
have you read, The Reason I Jump? It’s a book about autism written by a 14 year old that may help as it’s written through his eyes. Sending strength x

Lovethystupidneighbour · 22/05/2026 05:37

radioX · 21/05/2026 20:17

I have autistic children and I’m also autistic and I know how hard it is. But that’s terrible what your husband said. I know how hard it can be but those boys didn’t ask to be brought into this world, maybe your husband should remember that.

Terrible her husband said that but not that she said she wishes she never had them?

Her husband is also having a rough time, both of their feelings are valid

ShorterMumma · 22/05/2026 05:49

Screamingabdabz · 21/05/2026 20:37

Don’t plaster on a smile. That’s just another burden to manage. Be authentic with other people (like you’ve been here on MN) - they are either with you, or not worth it. Vulnerability is nothing to be ashamed of. People respond to it in surprising ways. No one will kick you, as you’re kicking yourself hard enough! Be kind to yourself op. 💐

I totally understand why you responded this way but people really aren't interested or able to cope with the reality of raising children with SEND especially multiple dc.

Currycats · 22/05/2026 05:54

thegreenlight · 21/05/2026 20:23

Im sure my husband is in denial - I have had to fight single handily for every bit of support we have got. I did everything alone, the forms, the parent conversations, the mediation.

That’s frustrating considering he was the one who wanted kids more. He should be doing at least 50% of this graft.

Oaktree1952 · 22/05/2026 05:55

I’m so sorry. That is so hard. Have you tried local SEN groups. Our local Sen school run events for parents of children that don’t go to their school but still have SEN. Being an SEN mum is very isolating and lonely.

As far as being proud I think you need to readjust your thinking. I’m not trying to be rude but you seem to be holding the ideal you had of what parenting would be like. You need to adjust your thinking and accept that your life won’t be like that. It will be hard and you need to allow yourself to grieve. Then you need to look at the little things that are big things you yourself children. Getting shoes on first time, getting themselves dressed etc these are all achievements just as big as trophies and certificates.