AIBU to complain about lenient sentencing in teenage rape case?

[Gingerbreadtree]

Please raise a complaint about the unduly lenient sentencing of the three teenage boys who have avoided prison after raping two teenage girls.

https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

BBC News article - BBC News - Teenage boys sentenced for raping lone girls
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clypg68e2neo

Just making a record of my ref number JG7FB5XV

If one form has the same affect at one thousand then why try to stop people from doing it?

Please complain - it takes less than 5 mins

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/770538/sponsors/new?token=HwYEkMBCxiLGwFU46KHJ

Petition "“Mandatory Custodial Sentence for Sexual Violence With a Weapon at any Age”."

TiredCatLady

Exactly, why should we avoid criminalising criminals.

They are criminals. I's it because they are young? Those boys have a other 60 or 70 years, hie many more girls or women might they rape.

BBC news is reporting the Government is reviewing the sentences.

Just coming on to say the same.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2x7wxjego

It’s good news that women have been heard (thousands I imagine) but I hope the judge is stood down and that the sentences are made harsher. I’ve just read the story about the seven young Afghan men charged with rape today. Women are simply not safe it would seem, and I don’t think I’m of a particularly nervous disposition. I don’t think I’m particularly racist either, but we seem to have allowed a lot of men from countries who have little respect for women to live here unsupervised.

you can complain about the judge here
https://www.gov.uk/complain-judge-magistrate-tribunal-coroner

Just read into it and complaining about the judge won't work. I'm not inclined to despair but this has really got to me

A government spokesperson said the attorney general's office had received "multiple" requests for the sentences to be reviewed under the Unduly Lenient Sentence (ULS) scheme.

On one hand the earlier poster is correct - those forms are for signalling that there may be a legal error here - they are not supposed to be a petition or a vote.

On the other hand - the government is elected, struggling and wishes to be more popular. And we have sent them a clear message that this is something that “multiple” people disagree with.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15840665/Three-teenage-travellers-avoided-jail-raping-schoolgirls-sentences-overturned.html

Excellent news.

I was just coming on to see if anyone else had seen the news. I mean it isn't just this forum but I feel part of something today.

I hope someone is telling those two poor girls how supported they are.

I’m probably going to get flamed for this but I don’t feel those boys are “children”. I’ve never thought it actually. I think from teenager, so 13 onwards any crime committed the criminal should be treated as an adult in courts of law.

That’s great news. Well done everyone.

Yes. Horrific.

The Judge here should be removed from duty. I don’t know how anyone could have looked at those crimes, heard that evidence from those brave girls and given those sentences. I’m glad it’s being reviewed. But it should never have happened in the first place.

Thank you for this. The sentence will be reviewed. I didn't know that was a thing so thanks

Signed

Even if nothing comes of it, hopefully it sends a message to those girls that people care about what happened to them and think the sentence is wrong.

The blackbelt barrister has also been on this.

This is what I put. - Raping two children at knifepoint on two separate occasions and distributing via social media requires extensive custodial sentence as this puts children walking the streets at serious risk of this life changing crime being repeated as it is effectively being decriminalised. The victim impact statement clearly points out they feel like ending their lives and for the system to collude with the perpetrators in demonstrating the children who are victims are actually worth nothing in our society speaks volumes about the misogyny endemic within the court and I also call for the judge to be sacked as he is unsuitable for office.

I also pointed out the 5.4% conviction rates for reported rapes.

We all realise, of course, that any of our daughters can be raped by a peer at school and it will be fine for the perpetrator. We are receiving that message loud and clear. We must fight this. It’s all linked to children who are female being sexualised by grown men. That’s the only reason that judge was able to come to his decision. His sensibilities were unable to accommodate the gravity of the crime because of what he has normalised in his private consciousness. We see him and his ilk.

Patronising the intelligent women of mumsnet is not a good look - good grief. It doesn’t matter about the protocol. It’s a quick sign of support for the children who are the victims. They still know how many people submitted the request. This would happen in any circumstance given no one has a crystal ball to see if anyone else has submitted.

Signed. It’s a disgrace