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AIBU to complain about lenient sentencing in teenage rape case?

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Gingerbreadtree · 21/05/2026 15:37

Please raise a complaint about the unduly lenient sentencing of the three teenage boys who have avoided prison after raping two teenage girls.

https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

BBC News article - BBC News - Teenage boys sentenced for raping lone girls
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clypg68e2neo

Ask for a Crown Court sentence to be reviewed

How to complain to the Attorney General's Office if you think someone's sentence is too low - and what happens if the Court of Appeal get involved

https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

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Noodledog · 21/05/2026 23:38

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:35

How many hours have I spent on this, please?

Because I reckon the sum total of my posts on the matter has taken me about 20 minutes.

It is important to me that the public understands how our legal system operates and that they're not being duped into signing something being presented as a "complaint" or a petition when it is very much not.

Like I said, I read posts from you 6 hours ago, and you have clearly spent the entire evening trying to put people off from placing objections.

I suspect when I check tomorrow you will still be doing the same thing. Hopefully you'll be ignored. Your motivation baffles me. But I'm sure you're finding the whole thing enjoyable.

LizzieSiddal · 21/05/2026 23:39

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:35

How many hours have I spent on this, please?

Because I reckon the sum total of my posts on the matter has taken me about 20 minutes.

It is important to me that the public understands how our legal system operates and that they're not being duped into signing something being presented as a "complaint" or a petition when it is very much not.

There’s a time and a place for being padantic and this isn’t it ffs! People are incandescent with rage about this sentence, they want to do something.

Filling in the form on the government website stating you feel these sentences are lenient is a very positive thing to do.

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:39

LizzieSiddal · 21/05/2026 23:35

As I stated above, hundreds of people complaining is NOT a waste of time in the long term. Lawmakers listen to public option and Guideline have been changed as a direct consequence of complaints by the public.

From the CPS

”Public opinion is not used by courts to determine individual sentences, but it directly influences sentencing policy through the statutory requirement to promote public confidence, and the public can formally submit complaints to have sentences reviewed under specific schemes.”

Keep complaining!!

Yes but this form isn't a complaint form. You're not complaining by submitting this form.

That doesn't change the fact that public campaigning is extremely important in changing laws and sentencing guidelines.

LizzieSiddal · 21/05/2026 23:41

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:39

Yes but this form isn't a complaint form. You're not complaining by submitting this form.

That doesn't change the fact that public campaigning is extremely important in changing laws and sentencing guidelines.

As I said, there a time and a place for being pedantic. This isn’t it.

Fill in the form MNetters!!

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:43

Noodledog · 21/05/2026 23:38

Like I said, I read posts from you 6 hours ago, and you have clearly spent the entire evening trying to put people off from placing objections.

I suspect when I check tomorrow you will still be doing the same thing. Hopefully you'll be ignored. Your motivation baffles me. But I'm sure you're finding the whole thing enjoyable.

I've actually spent the entire evening out at dinner, as you could evidence by checking the timestamps on my posts given you're that keen.

I've already explained my motivation. You can believe what you wish.

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:46

LizzieSiddal · 21/05/2026 23:39

There’s a time and a place for being padantic and this isn’t it ffs! People are incandescent with rage about this sentence, they want to do something.

Filling in the form on the government website stating you feel these sentences are lenient is a very positive thing to do.

I don't dismiss people's rage, my point is that rage would be better channelled into actual campaigning for long term change rather than repeatedly filling in a form that was effective the first time it was done.

It's like piling all the rage into a rocking chair. It might give you something to do but it's not going to get you anywhere.

The sentence in this case is going to be reviewed - great. Now maybe that energy should be put to campaigning for more stringent sentencing for rapists generally?

HalzTangz · 21/05/2026 23:53

Filled out the form .
You would think the courts would have learned from the rapist taxi driver that it's absolutely not ok to give weak sentences or to let rapist walk free.
These boys haven't had any punishment, they will likely rape again

HalzTangz · 21/05/2026 23:56

MrsValentine24 · 21/05/2026 16:01

Only one person needs to make the request in order for the sentencing to be reviewed. That’s what it says on the page you linked. So I didn’t submit one, but I agree the sentencing was shockingly lenient considering the seriousness of the crimes, the premeditated nature, the fact the crime was repeated & the perpetrators lack of remorse.

One person and the review may not be taken seriously, multiple requests means they have to take the review seriously

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:58

HalzTangz · 21/05/2026 23:56

One person and the review may not be taken seriously, multiple requests means they have to take the review seriously

This isn't true - only one UL submission is required for the case to be reviewed.

This doesn't have the same mechanics as a petition. It doesn't depend on the volume of submissions made. One form has the same effect as one thousand.

Noodledog · 22/05/2026 00:07

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:58

This isn't true - only one UL submission is required for the case to be reviewed.

This doesn't have the same mechanics as a petition. It doesn't depend on the volume of submissions made. One form has the same effect as one thousand.

People, please ignore this poster, they don't want your voice to be heard.

Only one objection is necessary, but a huge amount will be noticed . And if we just sit and seethe, nothing will change.

Italiangreyhound · 22/05/2026 00:14

I have submitted a complaint. I am absolutely appalled at this sentencing.

Italiangreyhound · 22/05/2026 00:15

It took me only a few minutes to submit a complaint.

OtterlyAstounding · 22/05/2026 00:26

Done. The judge should be struck off for this.

They should be getting life in prison for this, as I really doubt they'll ever be rehabilitated. The attacks were sadistic, premeditated, and utterly heinous. As I said on another thread about it, frankly, if I ruled the world, I'd just take them out the back and shoot them. If they're free in society, then at some point in the future, I guarantee that they're going to hurt more women and girls. But it seems those in power don't really care.

Italiangreyhound · 22/05/2026 00:46

Maybe if these boys were raping middle aged men then the situation might seem a bit more realistic for these judges.

I have also written to my MP.

Gingerbreadtree · 22/05/2026 04:45

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:58

This isn't true - only one UL submission is required for the case to be reviewed.

This doesn't have the same mechanics as a petition. It doesn't depend on the volume of submissions made. One form has the same effect as one thousand.

I'm sorry but I simply don't agree. Yes, one submission triggers a review, but hundreds lets them know that there is widespread disgust with the judge's sentencing.

Why do you have such a bee in your bonnet about this? Are you one of the civil servant who'll have to deal with this? Are you related to one of the boys? Let people do what they wish.

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BridgeNewton · 22/05/2026 04:53

Done

TiredCatLady · 22/05/2026 05:42

Utterly fucking appalling.

“Avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily”

Well, they’re fucking nasty little criminals who knew exactly what they were doing. Twice.

Premeditated. A weapon used. Evidence they’d cut the clothing off. Filmed and shared.

Surely these all should have been aggravating factors. That judge needs striking off.

Iamthemoom · 22/05/2026 06:41

TiredCatLady · 22/05/2026 05:42

Utterly fucking appalling.

“Avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily”

Well, they’re fucking nasty little criminals who knew exactly what they were doing. Twice.

Premeditated. A weapon used. Evidence they’d cut the clothing off. Filmed and shared.

Surely these all should have been aggravating factors. That judge needs striking off.

Also every time a video of rape and/or child abuse is shared, that abuse is likely to become infinite for the victim, shared repeatedly on user generated porn sites and impossible to get taken down and removed from all of them. These girls will have a lifetime of trauma and this added burden of not knowing where that video is now and who has seen it and if it’s still online. Victims find their videos on user generated porn sites years after the abuse. It makes their suffering 100 times worse.

Freysimo · 22/05/2026 06:56

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Superhansrantowindsor · 22/05/2026 07:09

I’ve filled it in. I don’t care about whether I needed to or not. Somewhere my name is down on paper saying I think this sentence is too lenient.

sashh · 22/05/2026 07:42

If anyone else is filling the form in the date of sentencing was 21/5/26

It's even worse than has been reported, from the CPS website:Boy B, from Dorset, who was 14 at the time of the offences but is 15 now, was convicted of six counts of rape. He pleaded guilty to four counts of taking indecent images of a child. He has been sentenced to a three-year youth rehabilitation order.

Women and girls just don't matter do they?

https://www.cps.gov.uk/wessex/news/three-teenage-boys-sentenced-after-two-girls-raped-separate-attacks

Three teenage boys sentenced after two girls raped in separate attacks | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/wessex/news/three-teenage-boys-sentenced-after-two-girls-raped-separate-attacks

TheRealShatParp · 22/05/2026 07:48

I have signed. Absolutely outrageous sentence.

FrothyCothy · 22/05/2026 07:51

Maybe the PP could consider that filling in the form is less a type of complaint and more an act of protest.

professionalcommentreader · 22/05/2026 07:52

FinchiePink · 21/05/2026 23:58

This isn't true - only one UL submission is required for the case to be reviewed.

This doesn't have the same mechanics as a petition. It doesn't depend on the volume of submissions made. One form has the same effect as one thousand.

A civil servant has already pointed out to you the volume will also be flagged to the AG, each form results in a new reference number, a number which will have to be updated, only one can trigger a response, several hundred triggers the sense of anger.

I’m unsure of your intention to repeatedly attempt to deter people, that is not your job to Police peoples views.

You speak for yourself, not the many.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/05/2026 07:55

Every voice counts. It’s a vile, cruel, vicious system, the evidence spoke volumes,
The law has to stop allowing fairytales be used as part of mitigating circumstances for reducing sentencing for vicious criminals.

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