AIBU to think these boys should have been incarcerated?

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BBC News - Teenage boys sentenced for raping lone girls
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clypg68e2neo

I've never started an AIBU before, but I'm genuinely really shocked. I'm just not sure how this sentence is justifiable. Their actions were premeditated and deliberate, they were carrying a knife and they filmed themselves. They're obviously a danger to women/girls, and probably to other boys too.

If anyone knows how and why this sentence might have come about, I'd be interested to hear it.

Utterly, utterly disgusting. Only in Soft-Touch Britain could men commit gang-rape, twice, and not go to prison.

And yeah, if you're man enough to commit rape then you're man enough to be tried as an adult. They have that option in the US - to try teens as adults if they commit adult crimes. 🤬🤬🤬

Justice has in NO WAY been done.

Those poor, poor girls.

If you’ll forgive me, this is such a stupid discussion I’ll be ignoring it. Let me know if you have anything of substance to discuss

I think that you need to enter the boy's names?. I'm stuck!

It’s not about being a vigilante which btw is a derogatory term for people wanting justice

The justice system in the U.K. is twofold
1/ rehabilitation and
2/ punishment

In this case and many rape cases the element of punishment is woefully lenient and in some cases non existent

They can’t be named but you can put a link to the cps article or today’s date and reference three un-named perpetrators. It will accept either.

Just put Unknown for the names.

No you don’t

Just say names not given as underage
then today’s date and Southampton court

Explaining his sentence, the judge said: "I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society."

He added that "peer pressure played a large part in what went on".

Is he joking? They shouldn't be criminalised? Rape due to peer pressure?

The victims were raped at knife point. The assaults were filmed and shared online. One victim was raped 3 times.

You want to challenge 'misogynistic attitudes'? You could start by punishing rapists appropriately. I don't care what age they are. They know right from wrong.

jfc. I am so fucking angry. Something needs to be done about this.

One of them was convicted of 6 counts of rape for crying out loud. He’s criminalised himself. He’s 15 not 5. He’s a danger to women and girls now and will probably continue to be so for the rest of his life.

They have been sentenced to a youth rehabilitation order. They will just be living at home and visiting a youth rehabilitation worker once a month.
Will there be any consequences for what they did to those poor girls?

I’ve submitted a request for review.

This absolutely HAS TO harm their chances of SOME employment.

They categorically cannot ever work with children or vulnerable people, in health or social care.

They must be criminaoised to the extent that a DBS never ever erases this.

It would be interesting to know how this sentence compares to other violent crimes committed by under eighteens, eg knife crime, muggings, assault.

I really think we need to start categorising the rape and sexual assault of women and girls as a hate crime.

I feel it's worth pointing out that only one unduly lenient form needs to be submitted.

It's not like a petition - it doesn't get more attention if lots of people do it.

Ah, right. I copied the CPS link given by a PP. Hopefully it works!

Ahhh peer pressure. That's ok then.

FFS I utterly despair. I really do

This absolutely HAS TO harm their chances of SOME employment.

They categorically cannot ever work with children or vulnerable people, in health or social care.

They must be criminalised to the extent that a DBS never ever erases this.

Of course a male judge.

Utterly sickening.

They'll be on the sexual offenders registry now but due to their age it will be wiped after a few years. I don't know the exact number

I don’t know if I’m just being dim, but how did they post the first attack on social media, as mentioned in some of the reporting, without attracting any attention or repercussion whatsoever (I assume, given that they were free to commit a second attack months later)?

The justice system does not solely exist for rehabilitation. Punishment for punishment’s sake is what justice systems all over the world were set up to do millennia ago.

I sincerely hope that this is rectified. I have filled in one of the forms as discussed upthread, and I hope others do the same. Does anyone know anyone else who it might be worthwhile to get in touch with? Would my local mp be of any use given I live on the other side of the country?

I came on here specifically to start a thread on this as just equally appalled they were not spending any time in custody.

I understand their ages, but even so, these attacks were extreme!

I’m completely sickened. Although I would never advocate vigilante justice, I wouldn’t be upset if these boys received some!

All three of them should have been given 10 years
They are animals, not fit to be loose in any society. No young woman will be safe in three years time.

Shame on the judge.

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