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Hate having plans for things I enjoy

151 replies

Manchegomango · 21/05/2026 07:17

I really hate having set plans even if they are things im looking forward to.
I have a couple of parties and trips away this summer (no big holiday) and even though I am excited about them all I just hate the feeling that I already know my time is accounted for.
Same with weekends - if I have somewhere i need to be on Saturday, even if its something great, I feel like my weekend has been used up.
Anyone relate??

OP posts:
mumof5five · 21/05/2026 12:24

Gosh no, anticipation is at least half the enjoyment for me. Spontaneous plans make me feel like I have lost out in the anticipation of it all.

OneSparklyWasp · 21/05/2026 12:26

Barrenfieldoffucks · 21/05/2026 07:52

Yes. We have a family holiday, and I have a break with our daughter planned for the summer, and all I feel is stressed about it. They're in the back of my mind like a dark cloud. It is ridiculous.

Ha ha I can so relate to this! Having anything planned in the future makes me want to be on the other side of it asap. It makes me anxious knowing a party or trip is coming up, even something I'll end up enjoying. I wish I wasn't like this but there it is. I've invited the whole family over in the summer with some travelling from as far as France. We rarely get to see each other & I thought I'd host it out in the garden. So now I've been stressing about the garden for months so it looks OK & what food I'll do. I know it'll be wonderful for everyone to be here but I'm sooo looking forward to the morning when I lie in bed & it's over! It's not till mid July & someone's asked me in April what time to arrive!!

DancingInTheMoonlights · 21/05/2026 12:27

I am exactly the same - I have ADHD and this is a huge part of it for me. I think it’s called something like Schedule Aversion. Apparently it is…

‘not laziness, avoidance, or disinterest.
It’s a neurocognitive reaction to the loss of freedom, the pressure of time, and the emotional weight of a future obligation’

…and I completely relate to that.

My husband says that I make plans just to cancel them.

I’ve always been spontaneous and hate rigid plans.

EmmaB1309 · 21/05/2026 12:31

I sort of get it but as a person who likes plans and organising, I would find this irritating I’m afraid! I imagine you are the type of person who would balk at being asked in June to commit to a Christmas night out I was organising, say you don’t want to commit to anything that far in advance and prefer to do something spontaneous, and then moan when by November everything is booked up and you and your workmates can’t get a seat in a decent pub!
It also disregards the needs of those who need to be organised because they have kids, caring responsibilities, and similar.

Deadleaves77 · 21/05/2026 12:44

Manchegomango · 21/05/2026 07:55

Because its forcing me to already create a structure for a day that is in 6 days time.
I also think that if you are a Planner sort the onus should be on you to give a time that works for you rather than make a non Planner deal with timings. So if we are seeing a film at 7 and you have other stuff you want to plan that day, just be like "hey looking forward to Saturday, ive got stuff beforehand so will be free from 5pm on"

But if you know your meeting at say 6pm then you know you've got the whole of the rest of the day free to be spontaneous with

Without the time your whole Saturday is just used up with cinema, someone's going to be waiting around for the other. Spontaneity with 2 seperate groups just results in one person wasting time

TheLilacFinch · 21/05/2026 12:49

I’m the opposite OP, I love plans! Even if it’s a “I’ll see you next Friday after work but we can decide what we’re doing nearer the time” kind of plan. Last minute things give me the heebie jeebies.

The last two city breaks I’ve been on (Edinburgh and London), I have booked restaurants for dinner in advance. There’s nothing I hate more than walking around saying “where do you want to eat?” “I don’t mind, where do you want to go? Oh this place looks nice but we’ll have to wait an hour..”

I don’t have kids either!

Jllllllll · 21/05/2026 12:54

I am totally the same. I hate booking things in weeks in advance. I might not want to do them then. A friend of mine has every weekend booked up for months in advance. Sounds awful to me. I’d much rather do things on the spur of the moment just because I fancy doing them. Stresses me out all the planning!

henlake7 · 21/05/2026 12:55

Im in the planner camp. I hate having no idea what Im doing, I get a sense of security of knowing what Im doing and when.
I have a couple of friends that are more chaotic and will sometimes give me loose plans of 'lets do something this weekend' or 'I'll pop round tomorrow'. Im then stressed out for the entire weekend waiting for these random nebulous plans to happen!
Lets just do the thing at x o'clock so I know when I can go home and put my feet up!LOL😆

Deadleaves77 · 21/05/2026 12:55

And with your lunch example op. It's great to say just go with the flow but what actually happens is one person will be hungry before the other, then we will be traipsing round hungry, we won't be able to get in anywhere nice or find somewhere. Actual fun time is then wasted having to make decisions in the moment and then find somewhere to eat and it's just really irritating

Having certain details sorted in advance means your time can actually be spent enjoying yourself. If my actual plans are locked down then I know exactly how much free time I have to play with rather than everything being vague and all over the place

I'm not a fan of a strict itinerary but I do like plans in advance

Deadleaves77 · 21/05/2026 12:59

I think you feel your weekend is used up by a single event on Saturday because you don't have a secure plan. That one event is dominating the whole weekend because its a vague idea snd so you can't see how much actual free time you have

InsolentAnnie · 21/05/2026 13:00

Hmm, I think it’s a bit selfish to refuse to be pinned down to a day/time. I juggle a million and one things - if you were my friend, I’d feel like I wasn’t important enough for you to make definite plans to see me. It’s a bit inconsiderate to expect other people to be okay with never planning anything when most people lead really busy lives.

Ibetthatyoulookgoodon · 21/05/2026 13:01

I have a friend like this. It worked ok before I had kids as I didn't mind doing stuff last minute. Now I just never see her because I have always planned stuff to do with the kids when she wants to do things. I'm not saying she is wrong, we are all different but it does create some practical issues as people get older / busier.

StJulian2023 · 21/05/2026 13:10

I am a natural planner but tbh I have very little choice as I’m a lone parent with a family who likes to go on holiday, but which includes one teen with AuADHD and a Grandma with chronic fatigue. To meet everyone’s needs I need to do some serious planning in advance. It’s all done by the time we leave which means I’m free to deal with anything that crops up (change of scene meltdowns, my mum bringing a useless phone that doesn’t work, etc haha - we do have a good time, honest!).

Also I find if I don’t plan things, I don’t see a soul. Everyone else has a husband and mine’s been dead for a decade, so I need to reach out for adult company. No one else seems to bother although they do respond happily and come along when I organise something. Sometimes it hacks me off because I’m surely the most time-poor, but such is life.

Macaroni46 · 21/05/2026 13:10

I’m in the planner camp. As I live alone, having things scheduled in the diary makes me happy and prevents loneliness. I love the anticipation and build up to events too!
I’ll happily do ad hoc stuff too but I couldn’t bear relying solely on last minute plans.
I also agree with a pp who said it sort of feels a bit insulting that people won’t commit in advance. Like they’re waiting for a better offer.

EmpressaurusKitty · 21/05/2026 13:10

I used to have a friend who liked the idea of planning but in practice often changed or cancelled plans at the last minute.

That was annoying.

BunnyLake · 21/05/2026 13:19

Yes I totally relate. As soon as something is planned and I’ve committed, I don’t want to go. My aunt used to say the same thing so I think it’s not a rare thing. It’s that feeling of now I have to do it.

cbbo · 21/05/2026 13:30

Ooo I love making plans and seeing all the fun things I have coming up in the next few months. It’s reassuring to know I am going to see certain friends and family members on that date. Especially with busy lives, distances and childcare it’s so hard to be spontaneous.
when I have been too full on with plans though, I do then deliberately plan to have a weekend with no plans 😂

CaragianettE · 21/05/2026 13:35

Manchegomango · 21/05/2026 07:45

Or imagine youre going to see a film on Saturday evening.
You get a text from someone on the Sunday before saying "what time we meeting on Saturday?".
FFS.

FFS? Really? What about if they have other things on that day, and other people they’re making plans with? I don’t think it’s wildly unreasonable for someone to want to know with just under a week to go whether you’re thinking of meeting at eg 6pm or 8pm. That could make the difference between whether they’ve got time to fit something else in with someone else or not, and what time they tell that person they want to meet. What if they’ve got friends or family visiting from out of town? It’s not all about you and your need to keep things flowy.

TheSoapyFrog · 21/05/2026 13:47

I totally get it OP. Strangely enough, my entire friendship group is the same as well. We all have kids. But there isn't a single neurotypical brain among us. We either tend to make plans for ourselves and then see if anyone else wants to come along (me and the kids are going to the trampoline park later, do you guys want to come as well?). Or one of us will put a message on the group chat along the lines of "hey, what's everyone upto today/tomorrow? Fancy going to the beach or something?"

We do obviously plan some things like birthday parties and occasional trips/holidays, but last year I left it too long to book camping and it was fully booked!

I was the same before i had kids as well. I see another poster has said she books things so she has something to look forward to and won't be lonely. I used to love waking up (on a non work morning) and think, what shall I do today? And then get on the train or whatever and do it.

Speakofthedevil · 21/05/2026 13:48

Jesus, no. Can't think of anything worse.

Had a 'spontaneous' friend once. Not sure what on earth possessed me to go on a holiday with him. Worst holiday ever. Aimlessly traipsing around, eating shit food 'spontaneously', because he didn't bother checking/booking. Oooh, there's a cool gig this evening, let's go! Well, no, you bloody idiot, tickets for it sold out half a year ago. Oh, this place is interesting, let's check it out. Well, we could have, had you bothered to check that it's closed on Mondays, and today is Monday. Want to travel to a nearby island? Great, but it was not planned, so now let's furiously research how to get there, staring at our phones sitting on a bench, and then not making it, because the last ferry just left, and the next is in two hours. You didn't know that? Well, of course you didn't, you never bothered to check. And so forth.

Then when we came back: aaaaah, did you know the place we've just been to has this, and this, and this, such a shame we didn't get to see it! We would have, if you had done any research and didn't flap about like a dumb, useless bird.

And he was a flake generally, never knew where/when/how he's getting somewhere, always late, everything's always last-minute, never committed to anything, missed things, etc.

We're no longer friends.

pizzaHeart · 21/05/2026 14:00

Manchegomango · 21/05/2026 07:45

Or imagine youre going to see a film on Saturday evening.
You get a text from someone on the Sunday before saying "what time we meeting on Saturday?".
FFS.

What if they need to schedule delivery or book a haircut or plan shopping visit? Ask for a lift or plan the bus trip? People are busy with things.
Also in my experience when people ask that they often mean do you want meet up early for a drink or just 5 minutes before to go in.
I hear you on overplanning as I have a friend who needs to plan exactly where to go 2 months before whereas my preferences heavily depend on the weather. However if it’s timed thing like a cinema or theatre it’s different.

BeRoseAnt · 21/05/2026 14:06

Oh yeah, I hate the planning. But it’s a necessary evil. Without it I literally never did anything. Or at least nothing that involved another person, took more than a few hours, or was ticketed. I tried to organise meeting up with a friend the other day, the next date we can both do is 7 months away! Life’s insane! But it’s better than just sitting at home.

Cosimarocks · 21/05/2026 15:04

Spontaneity is a lovely thing. But it needs to be set against reality. It shouldn’t lead to irritating others or to missing out on things. Those that often bemoan people who like to plan things, often complain that it ‘sucks the joy out of things’. Personally, I think that being able to do the thing you want to is far more joyful than turning up somewhere and finding that you can’t get in. And plans don’t stop joy, they mean you have something coming up to look forward to and to get excited about. There is a middle ground. You don’t need to have every moment of the day set out but it’s often useful to have some of the bigger bits booked.

It’s about being considerate and basing things on reality. Nowadays not making plans often leads to frustration and missing out on what you wanted to do. There is nothing better than having a ‘see what happens’ sort of day or weekend. But as a family or couple it often works, when it’s with others or involves going somewhere popular, it often doesn’t. I have a friend who I never see. They never commit to plans in advance, but will then often call by on the chance we are in. We usually aren’t or if we are we’re in the midst of something. We’re no longer teenagers or at university with few commitments and with a friendship circle in close proximity. We have other things that we want to do or need doing and other people to see. And, people are scattered about and have busy lives and so need to plan their lives around these things. We cannot just turn up like we used to do as kids and ring the doorbell to see if x would like to come out to play.

There is often an attitude amongst those that love spontaneity over all else, that everything should just fall into place and that if it doesn’t it’s the fault of someone or something else. My parents are great ones for not wanting to commit to a plan. They love the idea of doing something with us on a Sunday, like a walk followed by Sunday lunch in a pub. They like good food too. But when I suggest that we might look at good food pubs near where we are thinking of going, they can’t commit and say, ‘oh we’ll just see what’s around when we get hungry’. Time and time again we hit disappointment. Pubs on Sundays tend to get booked up quickly, and so we end up hungry and without anywhere to go. We then might find a café somewhere, generally have a long wait to get a seat, and then the food isn’t what they wanted. It happens all the time. But it’s never their fault. Last mother’s day we ended up sat on a cold bench eating something from the local M&S garage! They do the same with holidays – ‘oh lets have a week in Cornwall next week!’ – and then get angry that there’s no available places to stay.

And the trouble with those that love spontaneity is that they often too don’t want to make any decisions. We’ve a friendship group many of whom live abroad – university wasn’t here – and sometimes organise a meet up. A few of them coming over for a few days and we and others other here will meet up with them. The trouble is that they hate plans. Nothing is ever set. ‘Oh we’ll meet in London on Friday at some point, and then do something else on Saturday too’. ‘Ok. Where shall we meet? Do we want to do food or something?’ ‘Oh we’ll drop you a text when we’re somewhere’. When we eventually do meet – usually really late by the time everyone has worked out where everyone is and has gotten themselves there, we do sod all. We wonder randomly. No one makes any decisions, and by the time we might finally decide that everyone is starving and perhaps we might want to eat, we then can’t agree on what or where. And when finally we do – weirdly – the place we decide to eat at doesn’t have space for 15 randoms walking in from the street deciding they’re hungry. It’s lovely seeing them, but some sort of plan might actually mean we get to spend quality time together. And now that everyone has increasingly busy lives, if they booked their visits sooner, rather than saying, ‘hey, we’re in London at the weekend, who’s around?’ Then they might actually manage to see more of us! Every time they do come over there are fewer and fewer of us free to see them.

And the reality nowadays is that things often require booking. Even things like cinemas and swimming pools (since COVID) often book up in advance. Certainly theatres and restaurants and exhibitions and tourist attractions and trains and hotels. Being spontaneous is great, but what I think is better is actually doing something and seeing people. Wouldn’t it be lovely to be able to jump on the Eurostar to a city somewhere in Europe, catch up with friends there, pop into an exhibition or something, and end up in a brilliant restaurant you happen to pass! Sadly the reality is that the friends have plans, the trains are filled – or hugely expensive if you don’t book in advance - and the exhibitions and restaurants booked out weeks if not months in advance.

Nowadays I’m often guilty of over filling my diary months in advance. I sometimes look at it and feel overwhelmed (and I need to get better at not over filling my life). But the trouble is that if I want to see my friends and family or go to the theatre shows or exhibitions or whatever I love, then I have to book things in advance.

pizzaHeart · 21/05/2026 15:15

@Cosimarocks you are spot on!

TiggersTheOnlyOne · 21/05/2026 15:40

I think spontaneity is something only really available to people that have an excess of time to do things. My time is very limited so “let me know on the day” doesn’t work. Today for example is my only day off in 10 days. I need to fit multiple things in so when my someone is vague about a plan we have for lunch/gym/cinema it throws out my entire day because I don’t have the wiggle room for seeing how it goes. I need to know timings at least even if not the specific plans inside that time frame.