AIBU to expect a reply after leaving two days early?

[Sam155320]

With 2 days left to go on my notice period, work colleague I work with being nasty with rude comments, bosses ignoring me I came home and emailed/messaged my boss that I won’t be returning for the last 2 days of my notice period as I want some time before starting my new job next week. She’s seen the message but not replied. AIBU to think she should have?

Quite! If a member of my team walked out on me and only bothered to tell me via email out of hours, like fuck would I bother responding until the next day.

HR stepping into to do basic and quick management admin isn’t normal, and I suspect doesn’t actually happen in your company either.
For a start it would be a very badly written policy to go to this level of detail/ situation

I mean, you left them in the lurch for two days they were expecting to have you in, and you thought they'd say thanks, good luck?

Why?

Says more about them/the workplace with that behaviour than you. It's a job for gods sake, I doubt you were a surgeon saving lives, no need to ignore/be rude to people! Personally I'd have stuck out the last two days just to be the better person but can see why you didn't.

Edit - I mean ignoring/being rude whilst at work, not the email. I wouldn't reply to that out of hours either.

This. Very unprofessional of you OP.

They may well have signed off payroll for this month, so I expect they will be coming after you for a refund. Sadly most employers usually conflate victims with troublemakers and will just move on

If I were the manager in this scenario, I’d be checking the situation with legal prior to responding.

What a weird thing to accuse someone of lying about - especially when multiple posters have said the exact same would happen in their companies too.

Or do you think we’re all making it up?

I’ve been the manager in this situation - I had to check with HR what I needed to do to make sure nothing came back to bite us on the bum if she went to ACAS and claimed constructive dismissal.

I think lots of managers are incompetent, yes, which is what I said in my first post.

consulting the legal department is actually laughable

Don’t you already know enough to judge that yourself?

This.

I never said anything about a legal department.

I said HR would be the one to make contact in this scenario rather than the manager - that doesn’t mean the manager is incompetent, just that they’re following policy. As PP said, it’s often done that way to cover you in case there’s a complaint or problem down the line.

You keep saying this and implying everyone must be shit at their jobs but in reality it’s common to get HR to deal with things like this in case there’s any issues down the line.

It’a not about not knowing enough, it’s about the company preferring for these issues to be handled by HR - often for transparency as much as anything else.

other posters- the ones you’ve referenced- have said about consulting legal

This is incredibly minor. A manager can be expected to have enough basic Knowledge to deal with a minor management issue without needing to check whether it can lead to “going to acas and claiming constructive dismissal”

surely noone manages on this basis? You can’t pretend this is normal.

that is a much more understandable reason to not work your notice than "i want some time before I start my new job". Why on earth did you say that? It's horrendously unprofessional

My thoughts exactly

But it’s not about the manager worrying or not having the knowledge

It’s about the company wanting all communication around leaving, dismissals and pay to go through one department - HR. You can keep acting like it’s stupid but it’s clearly pretty common as multiple people on here are all saying the same thing.

And that’s clearly how their company operates 🤷‍♀️

You're getting weirdly defensive about this.

So you’ve breached your agreement and decided not to work your notice period in full because you ‘want’ some time before starting your new job, and you didn’t have the decency to discuss this with your boss to try and negotiate an earlier leave date?

I wouldn’t reply to you either.

She's probably busy figuring out how to cover your job for 2 days with no notice.

She sent the message this evening outside
of working hours. Why should she expect a reply in the manager’s personal time?
It’s hardly like it’s been sitting in her inbox for a week.

Again, she has just sent the message this evening outside
of working hours. Why should she expect a reply in the manager’s personal time?

Unless they really disliked you I imagine there was a card/best wishes coming your way Friday. Jumping gun to say no well wishes Weds when your leaving date was Friday.
Obviously depends on size of organisation and policies but I definitely can’t make decision to dock 2 days pay. I’d have to refer to HR as that’s what policy says. I’d be incompetent if I didn’t. It ensures consistency and prevents claims eg if you dock 2 days pay she claims you as manager had it in for her and her mate in other team did same and didn’t get docked. It needs recording by HR as left in breach of notice in case applies for another job or asks for another ref later.
I wouldn’t expect a manager to reply out of hours.