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To ask how many times you have seen anyone wearing a niqab (full face veil revealing eyes) or burqa (full face veil with mesh cover for eyes)?

305 replies

Jane379 · 20/05/2026 17:18

I've seen recent talk on UK Reddit about banning them, and I think we should, for several reasons, but I also think in some ways banning is easy but actually integrating people leading a very conservative Muslim lifestyle is much harder, and should be the main discussion.
European countries that have banned found not many women wore them. What about here? Some estimates say 1%-2% of Muslim women, but we don't really know.

I live in S London in an area with quite a few Muslims and have only seen about 10 niqab wearers in my life. Most in more central areas. I've never seen anyone wearing a burqa.

How typical is this?

OP posts:
DoreenDoors · 20/05/2026 19:06

InfoSecInTheCity · 20/05/2026 18:58

Everyone does have the right to express their opinion. What we don’t have is the right to is to enforce our opinion on others. Given that most of the posts are about how awful it is that women are forced to wear these items they would surely agree that enforcing a different dress code would also be wrong?

Are you as strongly opposed to Jewish orthodox women covering their hair and wearing modest clothing from ankle to neck, or orthodox Christian women covering their hair and wearing modest clothing from ankle to neck? Or is it just when the religious clothing is linked to Islam that it becomes a concern?

Its because visibility of one's face is hugely important in human groups. As I previously posted, I found the niqab very cumbersome in terms of clear communication when I lived in the Gulf. I have practical objections to it but dont want to ban it because banning clothing is an overreach. I couldnt care less about head coverings because they dont impact on communication.

ToffeeCrabApple · 20/05/2026 19:06

Only rarely and primarily in a diverse city in the north where my employer has an office.

I have lots of professional female Muslim friends who don't cover their heads at all unless visiting religious spaces etc or mingling with more conservative Muslim friends.

Brokentoes85 · 20/05/2026 19:10

Born and lived in Bradford till recently, never seen one.

Valeriekat · 20/05/2026 19:12

I live in Pakistan so maybe this isn’t really directed at me?

Sartre · 20/05/2026 19:13

Brokentoes85 · 20/05/2026 19:10

Born and lived in Bradford till recently, never seen one.

Wow, me too! Did you never drive or walk around Great Horton or Manningham? To be honest, even the city centre. I went ice skating with DC last summer and saw a mum and 2 young children wearing them.

MabelMoo23 · 20/05/2026 19:13

I don’t like them, but I wouldn’t suppprt banning them. It’s not for me to decide what women should wear!

Hadenough32 · 20/05/2026 19:18

I live in Leicester..fill Muslim attire is the norm here. My kids are the only white British in their school of 600 kids. The school is majority Hindu but id say 30% Muslim..90% of those mums wear the niquab or burkha. So every morning I see these mums..absolutely never been an issue. Seen them lift their veils at kids parties so they can enjoy a coffee etc. When I first moved here I thought I'd struggle to connect with them but I don't. They're human just like the rest of us

CultOfTheAirFryer · 20/05/2026 19:18

Niqab most days. Burqa very rarely - only a handful of times ever. East London.

Tigerbalmshark · 20/05/2026 19:30

Valeriekat · 20/05/2026 19:12

I live in Pakistan so maybe this isn’t really directed at me?

Maybe not, but I am actually quite interested in the answer! I’ve never met a Pakistani woman wearing anything more covered than a hijab or scarf, but most Pakistani women I have met have been doctors in the UK, so probably not representative.

Shudacudawuda · 20/05/2026 19:49

LakieLady · 20/05/2026 18:32

A few weeks ago, I had blood taken by a phlebotomist who was wearing a niqab. She didn't seem to have had a problem getting a job and participating in society.

She asked if I could hear ok, and explained that she always asked so that she could remove it if a patient needed to lip read.

At my work we are being encouraged to have photos on our Teams profiles and told we must always have our cameras on for online meetings. Its for security, to ensure we are talking to the person we think we are, but also most people find it quite disconcerting talking to a blank screen when you're supposed to be having a meeting.
Its pretty normal for humans to find facial expressions helpful in building a rapport with someone and when communicating. I would hate to be treated in a medical setting by someone whose face I can't see.

KeepingItAnonForThisOne · 20/05/2026 19:50

Jane379 · 20/05/2026 17:18

I've seen recent talk on UK Reddit about banning them, and I think we should, for several reasons, but I also think in some ways banning is easy but actually integrating people leading a very conservative Muslim lifestyle is much harder, and should be the main discussion.
European countries that have banned found not many women wore them. What about here? Some estimates say 1%-2% of Muslim women, but we don't really know.

I live in S London in an area with quite a few Muslims and have only seen about 10 niqab wearers in my life. Most in more central areas. I've never seen anyone wearing a burqa.

How typical is this?

Countless times in Tower Hamlets area of London

Runningswanker · 20/05/2026 19:55

Shudacudawuda · 20/05/2026 19:49

At my work we are being encouraged to have photos on our Teams profiles and told we must always have our cameras on for online meetings. Its for security, to ensure we are talking to the person we think we are, but also most people find it quite disconcerting talking to a blank screen when you're supposed to be having a meeting.
Its pretty normal for humans to find facial expressions helpful in building a rapport with someone and when communicating. I would hate to be treated in a medical setting by someone whose face I can't see.

Not normal for a lot of autistic people. I actually find the removal of facial expressions takes the pressure off! Relying on verbal language is much easier for me. I appreciate it's not an intended benefit but please don't assume everyone is the same.

Pericombobulations · 20/05/2026 20:00

When I lived in Bradford, in the 90's it was daily.

Now live elsewhere very rarely.

Scarlettpixie · 20/05/2026 20:21

Hardly at all and none in my town.

Oaktree99 · 20/05/2026 20:53

I've only seen them a few times. I don't think we should ban them, it seems really intrusive to legislate clothing in that way. Why do people support a ban? I'm not muslim but some days I could quite fancy wearing one myself, imagine all the time and money you could save on hair and makeup!

JHound · 20/05/2026 20:55

Jane379 · 20/05/2026 17:18

I've seen recent talk on UK Reddit about banning them, and I think we should, for several reasons, but I also think in some ways banning is easy but actually integrating people leading a very conservative Muslim lifestyle is much harder, and should be the main discussion.
European countries that have banned found not many women wore them. What about here? Some estimates say 1%-2% of Muslim women, but we don't really know.

I live in S London in an area with quite a few Muslims and have only seen about 10 niqab wearers in my life. Most in more central areas. I've never seen anyone wearing a burqa.

How typical is this?

Burkha - never
Niqab - frequently.

But I was raised in areas with lots of muslims and live in diverse areas. I don’t care what a woman chooses to wear though.

Strangerthanfictions · 20/05/2026 20:56

Jane379 · 20/05/2026 17:25

Thanks, that's really sad. I feel like this is one of those issues where the answer can vary very drastically depending on area.

What's sad?

igelkott2026 · 20/05/2026 20:57

I have never seen anyone in a burqa in the UK but I do see people in niqabs from time to time, but only in London, not where I live.

I really dislike it when I see girls wearing them (and even headscarves). Especially on a hot day when their menfolk are wearing shorts and t-shirts. Tossers.

igelkott2026 · 20/05/2026 20:58

JHound · 20/05/2026 20:55

Burkha - never
Niqab - frequently.

But I was raised in areas with lots of muslims and live in diverse areas. I don’t care what a woman chooses to wear though.

Edited

It's not exactly a choice.

JHound · 20/05/2026 21:00

I have never been served or attended to by anybody in a niqab though and don’t think I would be comfortable with it (especially medical staff). I see hijabs every single say though and could not care less about those.

JHound · 20/05/2026 21:01

igelkott2026 · 20/05/2026 20:58

It's not exactly a choice.

Oh yes I forgot. Not a single muslim
woman on the planet has ever decided for herself how she will dress.

Not one.

Tedsnan1 · 20/05/2026 21:02

HobnobsChoice · 20/05/2026 17:27

A fair number. I work in Manchester and live in a neighbouring town with a high Muslim population. It's changed in the last 30 years as I never saw women in the town I live in wearing them. I also see teenage girls with them on too. I dislike it a lot but I also don't feel comfortable with banning it.

How do you know they are teenage girls, if they are fully covered?

Londonrach1 · 20/05/2026 21:02

Midlands....several times a week..

WaryCrow · 20/05/2026 21:14

Small northern town. Loads of niqabs in the right part of town. Burka, only seen once here. They are quite rare.

SapphireSteel28 · 20/05/2026 21:17

I see it daily. When my children were in primary school there were a group of about 25 niqab wearing Mums. They didn’t speak to anyone not wearing the niqab, including other Muslim women wearing modest clothing which didn’t cover their face.

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