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“You’re not going on your own” - caring or controlling? AIBU?

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Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 09:36

My husband and I had words over the possibility of a solo trip (it was just an idea) yesterday and I think he may be the unreasonable party but I thought I’d ask in case I am genuinely missing something important here.

For context, married 4 years, no kids. Basically I brought up the idea of a city break I’d like to go on. We normally travel together with the exception of when I go on weekend trips with a friend or family or for work (which so far has only involved flying to a neighbouring country where I have family).

When I first mentioned it yesterday he essentially said “off with you” but his reaction later makes me think that this earlier comment was said because he thought I was joking. DH has no holidays left to take this year, I can WFH. I was considering doing a 3-4 night stay in this city and doing all of the things that I wouldn’t like to bore him with when we travel together eg taking myself off for a facial, some activities (think craft type things, etc). Great, I thought. I can WFH from the hotel and afterwards check out the landmarks, some shopping, etc. it would be my first solo trip in the sense that it would be the first time I’ve travelled alone purely for leisure for that amount of time, but I was looking forward to it and thought it would actually be good for my personal development.

Spoke about it again last night as I told DH about things that I don’t think he’d particularly enjoy doing that I was looking at doing in the city, and he said yeah but you’d need someone to watch your back there. I said I’m sure it would be fine, it’s a relatively safe city by any standard. He said “I’m not restricting you, you just can’t go on your own. Why don’t you wait til next year and see if (name of friend) can go with you. I said it’s not really the point, my friend might not want to go and I was particularly enjoying the prospect of going by myself. I

said I don’t see what it’s really got to do with you (perhaps this was wrong in hindsight). He said we’re married, we do everything together, to which I said that plenty of married people solo travel and he said “I don’t care, I don’t have to worry about them”. I said well ultimately it’s my choice and I have autonomy over my own actions.

He said that if I ignore his feelings then he’ll remember this for again and that we’ll have a big problem when I get back and that’s all he’s going to say, and that it’s not a threat. I replied by saying it does sound like a bit of a threat really. He said he didn’t want to hear anything else from me for the rest of the night, which also felt a bit patronising and like I was being chastised.

I should also mention that at some point in the conversation he asked why I needed to go away so often and I already go away 3-4 times a year with him and what’s the rush and do I want to just take a year out and travel or something and if that’s the case go off and do it (although I don’t see how that would be fine by him but a 3-4 city break isn’t, but anyway). I said that no, I don’t want to take a year out to go travelling and I’m perfectly happy with my life the way it is, but he said the signs are there that I want to be away all the time. I do like to go away, but it’s not to escape anything as such, I really do just like to see new places and thought it would be a good opportunity. I mean, I don’t question why he goes to the gym 3-4 times per week. I don’t feel like it’s any of my business. But I think I should be allowed to explore my hobbies as well.

Sorry this was so long! But does anyone have any experience of this? Did you go anyway? Did you decide against it?

OP posts:
QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:17

ThisCandidMintGoose · 19/05/2026 16:14

really not.

I am the wife, I have kids at home, I just whatsapped my husband yesterday and it went like that:
Can't see anything on calendar, just checking if are you available for kids first week of June?
reply: yes
and I've booked my tickets to spend a (very) long weekend in Spain

I don't have any friend who needs a handhold or is not allowed to go away for a few days 😂. because you know, we're .. normal!

It must be so suffocating and claustrophobic to live with people like you, and have to present a good reason. You are his wife or his mother?

Actually it's not really usual for couples to take holidays apart but you must know that, right?

Cherrytree86 · 19/05/2026 16:17

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 14:22

Reading the posts here, thanks everyone, just to clarify, there was no actual tangible trip to Amsterdam, this was a hypothetical and no I didn’t issue any ultimatum )although DH knows I am quite anti-drug personally) it was thrown out as a suggestion that one of the guys might have a stag in there and my response was essentially no chance , I know what state everyone would be in, which looking back wasn’t right either, I suppose the only edge I have is that I know what groups of lads do in Amsterdam and that my husband has form for throwing up and I can only imagine that it would be exacerbated if the booze was mixed with the other stuff and how typical lad culture everyone eggs eachother on. He said himself to my brother only the other day that it’s not a place he’d go with the guys as it would be too messy so I know what the expectation would be. But again I know that this can happen anywhere.But the difference is I wouldn’t say there would be consequences if he decided to go.

I can’t imagine him having the same concerns about me, he knows that when I go away with my friend we’re very similar and it’s usually dinner and a glass or two of wine and then back to our hotel, and without trying to be sexist, I think women tend to look out for eachother a bit more, and if solo I would naturally drink less so as not to have my inhibitions lowered.

But I think what surprised was how adamant he was at first yesterday (and not in a light hearted way like when I said no chance) that me not going was a non negotiable to him (emphasis on to him, I at my ripe age of my late 20s feel a bit too long in the tooth to be curbed). If there was an actual guys trip to Amsterdam happening and the logistics/activities were discussed then I think that would be a bit different and I’d want to know more about it and express any safety concerns first before instead of saying there would be consequences if he went.

@Samuelthespaniel

it was still controlling of you, OP…so he throws up in Amsterdam after too much drink, so what?!

Cherrytree86 · 19/05/2026 16:19

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:17

Actually it's not really usual for couples to take holidays apart but you must know that, right?

@QuintadosMalvados

it’s no bad thing. I know lots of couples that do

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:20

Love the way OP announces she stopped him going away himself to Amsterdam waa-ay after everybody called him controlling.

Drip feed? More like a torrent.

godmum56 · 19/05/2026 16:20

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 12:18

To answer some pps, the age gap is he’s 5 years my senior so not insignificant but not so much that we’re of a completely different generation either.

We did end up talking about it a bit more and he said if it were him he would have had the respect to say (like he does when he has events on with the guys or work) “I’m looking at going away on x date, is that okay, have we got anything on?”. The thing is I didn’t have dates in mind yet so there was no point, and I actually did say it to him and he literally said “off with you”. He said that being married we had the respect to check if something is okay with the other and that because I said no way to an Amsterdam trip with the lads (perhaps stupidly, but he did mention the kind of unsavoury antics that go on) so that if I go on this trip I essentially can’t veto any trips for him either. I mean I will take responsibility as I wasn’t in favour of the Amsterdam trips as ironically I too am concerned for safety in the event of him drinking too much and hitting his head/choking on vomit, those are things I genuinely am concerned about. But ultimately it is his choice and those things could happen anywhere, and I said I doubt he was going to ask if it’s okay if he does on the couple of stag dos he has coming up next year. He said of course he’d check with me to see if it’s alright. Hmm So I suppose it’s a bit tit for tat now.

hmmm. That's a drip feed and a half. Are you seriously concerned about what your partner would do on a stag? Again, going back to my experience, my late husband used to go on business trips with colleagues, so no choice of company. I knew, because he told me that some of his colleagues did used to take advantage of the "hospitality" that was offered by the host company....this was the 80's/90's He and his less idiotic mates would take themselves off for a beer and a walk and I wouldn't have for one instant worried about him getting so drunk that he would choke on vomit. I mean you shouldn't have to embargo each other. Personally I could not stay with someone whose behaviour I couldn't trust, but if you felt you had to embargo him, I can see why he feels entitled to do the same. It doesn't sound like a solid foundation for a relationship to me.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 19/05/2026 16:24

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 15:45

There’s only one way to find out!

I do think you need to be very careful with him. This is a huge red flag about his desire to control you.

Definitely make a point of going now. Act normal. Message him some lovely photographs. Call him after you back to your room in the evening.

And then when you get back, make a point of doing something independently every so often. Because if you allow him to start controlling you now, it's going to become a pattern.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/05/2026 16:24

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 15:56

The truth is that if any husband of some of the posters here announced that he was taking himself off for a few days alone those posters calling the dh 'controlling' would be here complaining about it.

If my dh announced he was going away on his own for 3 nights without me for no good reason like visiting family, caring responsibilities, business etc I'd be like wtf?!

And so would the vast majority calling your husband controlling or whatever pop psychology nonsense is the latest thing.

No they wouldn’t, not without children / childcare in the mix. The OP isn’t proposing to leave the H with her share of any responsibilities.

Also there is a good reason to go solo - he has no annual leave yet so can’t join.

BarbiesDreamHome · 19/05/2026 16:27

Ffs, having read your updste I think you both married too young and you've married the wrong person.

I don't endorse shagging sex workers in Amsterdam but you don't get to veto him going to Amsterdam as a preventstive measure. If hes going to "get messy" and you don't like that then you shouldn't have hitched your wagon to a bloke still that irresponsible. Some grow out of it, yes, but some never do it.

Frankly, as adults in your 20s, "expressing safety concerns" is ridiculous. Neither of you should be married to eachother.

ThisCandidMintGoose · 19/05/2026 16:31

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:17

Actually it's not really usual for couples to take holidays apart but you must know that, right?

you live in a very small world if you genuinely believe it's not usual for couples to do things separately

because they ALSO have different interests (I only have 1 female friend who is interested in golf holidays for example, most of us .. don't want to go)
Not every holiday I take would fascinate my husband.

or because they have children and one of them stays when the other enjoys a bit of freedom. It's healthy to spend a bit of time away from the kids.

or because we like the occasional girl/ boy weekend and it would be inappropriate for the other one to tag along with the kids 😂

You'll faint, but I have a friend currently on a motorbike tour of Corsica with other friends while her husband is home with the kids. He rides, but it's her turn to have fun. Shocking but welcome to the real world 😂

EggStation · 19/05/2026 16:32

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 15:56

The truth is that if any husband of some of the posters here announced that he was taking himself off for a few days alone those posters calling the dh 'controlling' would be here complaining about it.

If my dh announced he was going away on his own for 3 nights without me for no good reason like visiting family, caring responsibilities, business etc I'd be like wtf?!

And so would the vast majority calling your husband controlling or whatever pop psychology nonsense is the latest thing.

Do you not see anything at all problematic with the language used? The threats, the talking down to the OP? Even if you think the premise is reasonable.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:33

OP, I suspect that had you said in your opening post that you'd stopped him going away the earlier replies would have been very different.

EggStation · 19/05/2026 16:34

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:17

Actually it's not really usual for couples to take holidays apart but you must know that, right?

In my world, it’s very normal for people to go away separately with friends, even after their wedding day! Most of us are celebrating silver weddings now and still do it ;-)

EggStation · 19/05/2026 16:36

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 15:45

There’s only one way to find out!

Do ask him now. You are making light of this. But some of his comments really concern me.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:36

EggStation · 19/05/2026 16:32

Do you not see anything at all problematic with the language used? The threats, the talking down to the OP? Even if you think the premise is reasonable.

Nope I don't- especially given her update about her stopping him going away.
Given that, he's probably been quite calm.

EggStation · 19/05/2026 16:39

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:36

Nope I don't- especially given her update about her stopping him going away.
Given that, he's probably been quite calm.

if I ignore his feelings then he’ll remember this for again and that we’ll have a big problem when I get back and that’s all he’s going to say

Ok. If you find language like this acceptable, then we have very different expectations of communication in a relationship.

WaryHiker · 19/05/2026 16:42

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 14:30

Also just to confirm, I was an adult when we met and started dating. 18 but an adult all the same.

And he was twenty-three, which is very much not ok. I would have been horrified if my daughter had been dating a man five years older than her when she had just turned eighteen.

To make things worse, he kicked off and behaved in a controlling way when you left home to go to university. Your emotional development and university experience would have been severely impacted by being tied to this insecure and controlling older man back home.

This relationship started badly and sounds as though it has got a whole lot worse. If I were you I would do some serious rethinking before you get in any deeper and start a family. It seems likely that you would very quickly regret that.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:43

EggStation · 19/05/2026 16:39

if I ignore his feelings then he’ll remember this for again and that we’ll have a big problem when I get back and that’s all he’s going to say

Ok. If you find language like this acceptable, then we have very different expectations of communication in a relationship.

No. That's him being factual. He's not happy about it, therefore he's just stating a fact.
Maybe he'll just leave her. As is his right.

ItchyandScratchiness · 19/05/2026 16:46

Mix56 · 19/05/2026 13:20

Not really, Going to AMS with mates, on a drunken spree with strip clubs etc, Is effectively putting yourself & your marriage at risk.
Whereas, going to ex. Vienna alone, to sightsee & do a few museums is not !

I have lived with this sort of disapproval, (even going home to visit my parents caused tension.) I never gave in, I am a grown adult, he does not decide what I can & cannot do.

Exactly. A trip to a city known for prostitution, drugs and cheating for a "stag do" (vomit) is totally not the same.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:49

ThisCandidMintGoose · 19/05/2026 16:31

you live in a very small world if you genuinely believe it's not usual for couples to do things separately

because they ALSO have different interests (I only have 1 female friend who is interested in golf holidays for example, most of us .. don't want to go)
Not every holiday I take would fascinate my husband.

or because they have children and one of them stays when the other enjoys a bit of freedom. It's healthy to spend a bit of time away from the kids.

or because we like the occasional girl/ boy weekend and it would be inappropriate for the other one to tag along with the kids 😂

You'll faint, but I have a friend currently on a motorbike tour of Corsica with other friends while her husband is home with the kids. He rides, but it's her turn to have fun. Shocking but welcome to the real world 😂

Yeah yeah some people are cool with their spouses going away. All good. Fine.
I get that.

There's always exceptions, however, this does not refute my claim that the vast majority of posters here calling the dh controlling would behave negatively themselves if their dh announced he was going away on his own for a few days alone.

There'd be suspicion for a start.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:52

ItchyandScratchiness · 19/05/2026 16:46

Exactly. A trip to a city known for prostitution, drugs and cheating for a "stag do" (vomit) is totally not the same.

Besides the point. She forbade him from going as she didn't trust him to behave.
Or are you suggesting that men have no agency and that it is only something women possess?

Babybirdmum · 19/05/2026 16:55

Cherrytree86 · 19/05/2026 14:16

@Babybirdmum

like what? What wouldn’t you want your husband to do and tell him that?

If he was going on a very long trip- it would have to be for a good reason, otherwise I’d ask if he can shorten it. We have 2 kids so have to be considerate to each other. It’s what we are like in our marriage

EverydayRoutine · 19/05/2026 17:03

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:17

Actually it's not really usual for couples to take holidays apart but you must know that, right?

Actually, it's quite normal to have some separate holidays/weekends away. I might say I plan to go to X place for Y number of days. DH will do the same. Obviously, we discuss logistics. But neither one of us would bat an eyelid about this.

Witchonenowbob · 19/05/2026 17:04

ItchyandScratchiness · 19/05/2026 16:46

Exactly. A trip to a city known for prostitution, drugs and cheating for a "stag do" (vomit) is totally not the same.

The city is known for it?

Is her DH?

She was more concerned about drink and hitting his head? So a safety issue?

JuliaRobHurts · 19/05/2026 17:09

Witchonenowbob · 19/05/2026 17:04

The city is known for it?

Is her DH?

She was more concerned about drink and hitting his head? So a safety issue?

Exactly.

Every major city in the UK has access to prositutes, drugs, and cheating. OP's DH could quite easily fill his boots if he were interested in that.

Also not sure why the drugs is relevant. So what if DH wanted to smoke weed whilst there. Perfectly legal and OP would have no right to dissuade him provided he didn't plan and doing it once back home. Plenty of folk try weed in Amsterdam and to stop your partner would be the type of controlling behaviour PP are quick to shout about.

sweetpickle2 · 19/05/2026 17:12

LuckyHazelFox · 19/05/2026 14:43

So where are you going@Samuelthespaniel because of course no-one skiver while being tempted by a swimming pool under their apartment. Come on.

Why are you assuming OP and everyone else is a 'skiver'? Are you?

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