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“You’re not going on your own” - caring or controlling? AIBU?

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Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 09:36

My husband and I had words over the possibility of a solo trip (it was just an idea) yesterday and I think he may be the unreasonable party but I thought I’d ask in case I am genuinely missing something important here.

For context, married 4 years, no kids. Basically I brought up the idea of a city break I’d like to go on. We normally travel together with the exception of when I go on weekend trips with a friend or family or for work (which so far has only involved flying to a neighbouring country where I have family).

When I first mentioned it yesterday he essentially said “off with you” but his reaction later makes me think that this earlier comment was said because he thought I was joking. DH has no holidays left to take this year, I can WFH. I was considering doing a 3-4 night stay in this city and doing all of the things that I wouldn’t like to bore him with when we travel together eg taking myself off for a facial, some activities (think craft type things, etc). Great, I thought. I can WFH from the hotel and afterwards check out the landmarks, some shopping, etc. it would be my first solo trip in the sense that it would be the first time I’ve travelled alone purely for leisure for that amount of time, but I was looking forward to it and thought it would actually be good for my personal development.

Spoke about it again last night as I told DH about things that I don’t think he’d particularly enjoy doing that I was looking at doing in the city, and he said yeah but you’d need someone to watch your back there. I said I’m sure it would be fine, it’s a relatively safe city by any standard. He said “I’m not restricting you, you just can’t go on your own. Why don’t you wait til next year and see if (name of friend) can go with you. I said it’s not really the point, my friend might not want to go and I was particularly enjoying the prospect of going by myself. I

said I don’t see what it’s really got to do with you (perhaps this was wrong in hindsight). He said we’re married, we do everything together, to which I said that plenty of married people solo travel and he said “I don’t care, I don’t have to worry about them”. I said well ultimately it’s my choice and I have autonomy over my own actions.

He said that if I ignore his feelings then he’ll remember this for again and that we’ll have a big problem when I get back and that’s all he’s going to say, and that it’s not a threat. I replied by saying it does sound like a bit of a threat really. He said he didn’t want to hear anything else from me for the rest of the night, which also felt a bit patronising and like I was being chastised.

I should also mention that at some point in the conversation he asked why I needed to go away so often and I already go away 3-4 times a year with him and what’s the rush and do I want to just take a year out and travel or something and if that’s the case go off and do it (although I don’t see how that would be fine by him but a 3-4 city break isn’t, but anyway). I said that no, I don’t want to take a year out to go travelling and I’m perfectly happy with my life the way it is, but he said the signs are there that I want to be away all the time. I do like to go away, but it’s not to escape anything as such, I really do just like to see new places and thought it would be a good opportunity. I mean, I don’t question why he goes to the gym 3-4 times per week. I don’t feel like it’s any of my business. But I think I should be allowed to explore my hobbies as well.

Sorry this was so long! But does anyone have any experience of this? Did you go anyway? Did you decide against it?

OP posts:
Swiftie1878 · 19/05/2026 14:54

He said ‘I don’t want hear from you again tonight’?

Sorry… 😬🤷‍♀️
HUGE red flags all over this.

Northermcharn · 19/05/2026 14:56

hotsoap · 19/05/2026 14:48

No, I don't see that part of him being abusively dismissive....the man sounds a bit ND ....they cannot take long chats over tension topics too well

No. He said he 'doesn't want to hear anything else' from her for the rest of the night. Dismissive, and abusive.

Northermcharn · 19/05/2026 14:57

Swiftie1878 · 19/05/2026 14:54

He said ‘I don’t want hear from you again tonight’?

Sorry… 😬🤷‍♀️
HUGE red flags all over this.

Exactly

AgnesMcDoo · 19/05/2026 15:05

As a grown adult you get to make these decisions by yourself and no one can tell you what you can and cant do.

Get your trip booked.

EverydayRoutine · 19/05/2026 15:10

Your DH is being worryingly controlling dressed up as concern. I really loathe the way some men claim they are being "protective," when in fact they are exerting control. It's depressing how many women have fallen for that nonsense. "Oh, he loves me so much, he's just looking out for me." Shudder. You're an adult woman going on a trip to an interesting city, you don't need to be protected by your big strong husband. 🙄

I wouldn't put up with the way he spoke to you. "I'm not restricting you, you just can't go on your own." Er, that is the very definition of restriction. The only thing I would say to that is, "I absolutely can and will go on my own."

As for his threat that you will face "a big problem" when you return? And he didn't want to hear anything else from you for the rest of the night? Just no. Hell to the no. No decent partner would issue threats and commands that way.

As for the Amsterdam trip, the fact that it was hypothetical and you were concerned about his actions/the actions of his friends, I think that is quite different. If you had said you were planning to get wildly drunk on your city break and go to a strip club, then your DH could make a case for saying he was uncomfortable. It still wouldn't excuse his threats and controlling behaviour, though.

TinyCottageGirl · 19/05/2026 15:10

I don't think he reacted in the right way, but I think I would feel a bit upset if my husband wanted to go on trips without me whilst I stayed at home working and 'manning the fort'.
Maybe he just wants to experience these things with you?
I only did one trip solo and didn't enjoy it so we usually do one or two 'friends' trips a year and the rest we do together.
Could you go together on a bank holiday or he just genuinely doesn't fancy this city?
I don't condone what he said though, does he have form for behaving like this?

Dontlletmedownbruce · 19/05/2026 15:10

I think this is very much about the Amsterdam trip, hypothetical or not. As you say he said a friend was thinking about going and you said 'no chance'. You set the precedent there. It sounds like you both have been controlling and that's fine for some couples but not others, it certainly wouldn't work for me. If you are changing things up and pushing for a more independent lifestyle you need to work with him. Remember if you go and do what you wants, then so does he. You can't say your worries or concerns are more legitimate than his. I still think you should go but you will be setting a new precedent in your relationship and you need to think about whether you can deal with that.

ThisCandidMintGoose · 19/05/2026 15:14

TinyCottageGirl · 19/05/2026 15:10

I don't think he reacted in the right way, but I think I would feel a bit upset if my husband wanted to go on trips without me whilst I stayed at home working and 'manning the fort'.
Maybe he just wants to experience these things with you?
I only did one trip solo and didn't enjoy it so we usually do one or two 'friends' trips a year and the rest we do together.
Could you go together on a bank holiday or he just genuinely doesn't fancy this city?
I don't condone what he said though, does he have form for behaving like this?

why on earth would you have an issue with your partner going without you?

It's the beauty of not being alone when you have kids, someone can stay with them, but there are no children here.

It's healthy to keep your independence - and the OP is planning on doing things he doesn't even enjoy.

EarthaKittsVoice · 19/05/2026 15:16

Monty36 · 19/05/2026 12:14

No, I didn’t think he wouldn’t believe it.
I found it a bit unlikely. Sure people work flexibly. Some will work early in the morning, late into the night. But depending on where she goes will impact on the ability to link up with others time wise etc. It all sounds a bit unrealistic.

When I put in a request to work abroad, my manager will look at what is required at work during the time I am requesting - just like with annual leave requests.

Not all of us work in roles which depend on interaction others, I work in data and my work is independent of my team. Not completely separate but we don't need to link-up with others time wise or throughtout our day.

A lot of employers trust their staff to do their work, which is why some of us WFH full time.

EarthaKittsVoice · 19/05/2026 15:23

Monty36 · 19/05/2026 12:17

I didn’t expect her to justify it to him. At all.
I would to her employer. . And if her employer is fine with her taking a break ( and she might be self employed), and working combo then all is well. It sounded a bit like trying to do both things at once.

I'm not sure you understand the how the workforce has been and/or progressed over the last 20 or so years

The internet has allowed staff members (not just c-suite/CEO/directors etc) freedom and thankfully some of us grabbed it with both hands.

ThisCandidMintGoose · 19/05/2026 15:27

EarthaKittsVoice · 19/05/2026 15:23

I'm not sure you understand the how the workforce has been and/or progressed over the last 20 or so years

The internet has allowed staff members (not just c-suite/CEO/directors etc) freedom and thankfully some of us grabbed it with both hands.

geographical locations do matter still. You can't start working randomly in any country, it's a bit more complicated than having internet access.

EarthaKittsVoice · 19/05/2026 15:31

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 12:18

To answer some pps, the age gap is he’s 5 years my senior so not insignificant but not so much that we’re of a completely different generation either.

We did end up talking about it a bit more and he said if it were him he would have had the respect to say (like he does when he has events on with the guys or work) “I’m looking at going away on x date, is that okay, have we got anything on?”. The thing is I didn’t have dates in mind yet so there was no point, and I actually did say it to him and he literally said “off with you”. He said that being married we had the respect to check if something is okay with the other and that because I said no way to an Amsterdam trip with the lads (perhaps stupidly, but he did mention the kind of unsavoury antics that go on) so that if I go on this trip I essentially can’t veto any trips for him either. I mean I will take responsibility as I wasn’t in favour of the Amsterdam trips as ironically I too am concerned for safety in the event of him drinking too much and hitting his head/choking on vomit, those are things I genuinely am concerned about. But ultimately it is his choice and those things could happen anywhere, and I said I doubt he was going to ask if it’s okay if he does on the couple of stag dos he has coming up next year. He said of course he’d check with me to see if it’s alright. Hmm So I suppose it’s a bit tit for tat now.

"I too am concerned for safety in the event of him drinking too much and hitting his head/choking on vomit, those are things I genuinely am concerned about."

Has he done this before??

MagicalBagPuss · 19/05/2026 15:33

My husband has difficulty, to put it mildly, in coping on his own but that is because he is on the autistic spectrum and he and other people don't really get on. Despite that I still go,away for a few days from time to time on a residential singing course or somewhere with a friend. It sounds as if yours does not have a problem with this. I wonder what the subtext is? Why is he trying to,exert this level of control, what is he afraid of? Go, call his bluff and have fun. Do the things you enjoy. As others have said maybe you need to rethink your relationship. Would he agree to couples counselling or would he think,that it would be all about you?

PersephoneSmith · 19/05/2026 15:33

I'm going a step further than other posters, I think your DH has effectively shat on your marriage.
I don't think there is any coming back from the threats, control and nastiness. Genuinely think you should consider this the end of your marriage.

EggStation · 19/05/2026 15:34

OP. What would the ‘consequences’ have been? Did you ask him? @Samuelthespaniel

EarthaKittsVoice · 19/05/2026 15:36

Monty36 · 19/05/2026 12:22

If she can see all she wants to after 5pm then she is happy. And so is her employer assuming she is not her own boss.

"If she can see all she wants to after 5pm"

Some of us work at companies that allow us to work our contracted 7/8 hour shift anytime/anyhow between the hours of 6am-8pm. (with systems updating overnight)

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 15:45

EggStation · 19/05/2026 15:34

OP. What would the ‘consequences’ have been? Did you ask him? @Samuelthespaniel

There’s only one way to find out!

OP posts:
ilikemethewayiam · 19/05/2026 15:52

Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 15:45

There’s only one way to find out!

Not really! I would ask him to explain explicitly what he means by consequences and watch him squirm as he realises he has to spell out how abusive he intends to be. He’ll either show you his true colours or backtrack.

WhatterySquash · 19/05/2026 15:54

I’m not restricting you, you just can’t go on your own.

We’re married, we do everything together

if I ignore his feelings then he’ll remember this for again and that we’ll have a big problem when I get back and that’s all he’s going to say, and that it’s not a threat.

He said he didn’t want to hear anything else from me for the rest of the night,

Bloody hell OP this is a controlling abusive dickhead! Who does he think he is? My ex was an arse, but he knew damn well if he said I couldn't go on a solo trip I'd laugh in his face.

The threat one is the worst - he's not just threatening you he's also gaslighting you that it's not a threat. (Likewise the "I'm not restricting you" erm yes you are) If an H said that to me he'd definitely have a problem when I got back, in the form of a divorce.

I love a solo city trip and in case you are in any doubt there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing that while married, especially with no DC. (IMO it's also OK if you do have kids, as long as it's reciprocated.)

Do you want to stay with this man OP? Does he do other controlling stuff?

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 15:56

The truth is that if any husband of some of the posters here announced that he was taking himself off for a few days alone those posters calling the dh 'controlling' would be here complaining about it.

If my dh announced he was going away on his own for 3 nights without me for no good reason like visiting family, caring responsibilities, business etc I'd be like wtf?!

And so would the vast majority calling your husband controlling or whatever pop psychology nonsense is the latest thing.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:02

I hadn't even read about the Amsterdam trip before I typed, but I guess OP that you've proved my post to be true.

WhatterySquash · 19/05/2026 16:08

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 15:56

The truth is that if any husband of some of the posters here announced that he was taking himself off for a few days alone those posters calling the dh 'controlling' would be here complaining about it.

If my dh announced he was going away on his own for 3 nights without me for no good reason like visiting family, caring responsibilities, business etc I'd be like wtf?!

And so would the vast majority calling your husband controlling or whatever pop psychology nonsense is the latest thing.

I think it is understandable to be pissed off when you have small/dependent DC and your H just buggers off all the time doing trips and hobbies and helps himself to all the child-free leisure time he fancies - and the women never gets any. And that does happen a lot, Ive seen it countless times on here and among friends.

But OP doesn't even have kids. Before DC I would go away without DP whenever I fancied and so would he - why not? Obviously you'd talk it over / plan it to avoid important dates or whatever, and it's normal to go go away together as well. But if I fancied something like a shopping weekend in London that would bore him senseless, what's the problem?

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 16:12

WhatterySquash · 19/05/2026 16:08

I think it is understandable to be pissed off when you have small/dependent DC and your H just buggers off all the time doing trips and hobbies and helps himself to all the child-free leisure time he fancies - and the women never gets any. And that does happen a lot, Ive seen it countless times on here and among friends.

But OP doesn't even have kids. Before DC I would go away without DP whenever I fancied and so would he - why not? Obviously you'd talk it over / plan it to avoid important dates or whatever, and it's normal to go go away together as well. But if I fancied something like a shopping weekend in London that would bore him senseless, what's the problem?

They'd be pissed off even if there were no children.
Yes they would.
In any case, if I read it correctly, she stopped him from going to Amsterdam.

Maybe it's just childish tit-for-tat rather than 'coercive control'.

Not great but far less worse.

ThisCandidMintGoose · 19/05/2026 16:14

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 15:56

The truth is that if any husband of some of the posters here announced that he was taking himself off for a few days alone those posters calling the dh 'controlling' would be here complaining about it.

If my dh announced he was going away on his own for 3 nights without me for no good reason like visiting family, caring responsibilities, business etc I'd be like wtf?!

And so would the vast majority calling your husband controlling or whatever pop psychology nonsense is the latest thing.

really not.

I am the wife, I have kids at home, I just whatsapped my husband yesterday and it went like that:
Can't see anything on calendar, just checking if are you available for kids first week of June?
reply: yes
and I've booked my tickets to spend a (very) long weekend in Spain

I don't have any friend who needs a handhold or is not allowed to go away for a few days 😂. because you know, we're .. normal!

It must be so suffocating and claustrophobic to live with people like you, and have to present a good reason. You are his wife or his mother?

SorryWeAreClosed · 19/05/2026 16:15

Op, I've been in a position of having to elbow myself some breathing space. If I hadn't it would have chipped away at my belief in my capabilities.

He is being controlling and he is questioning your competency and he is hoping you will begin to question your own competency.

I hope you still go on your trip. It sounds like you are. I now go away wherever and whenever I want, just as it should be. It gets encouraged rather than questioned.

If you give up now it could be like this forever. We aren't the same people we were ten years ago and to some extent we do have to play catch up with who our partners now are. I'm sure it will be fine.