How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

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I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

Agreed. My late MIL/FIL met at 13/14 and were together for the rest of their long lives. They didn't marry until their 20s because, education and establishing their careers. Both of them in the 1930s and neither had a silver spoon in their mouths, at all.

Hence why I said she was trapped. Her life is likely to be squeezing out child after child and training the girls for the same life.

I don’t know why anyone would want to deny a life and an education for their children. When you see what women have done to allow women and girls access to education and work it’s awful.

It’s one thing for someone to make an informed decision about their life. But this is something else

It was drizzling most of the day. Pissed me right off as I was working outside in it 😭 (

If you are Rom you always have an education. It is a different one from the one some might respect but we are not stupid people.
Children are encouraged by the whole community to be quick witted and to pick up, learn, and absorb knowledge and show it off ,as well as to problem solve from a very young age. Most of us are very capable.
Those who aren't sharp are encouraged to hide behind 'still waters run deep' and work harder or specialize if they can't just work smarter.
Everyone can add, subtract, use basic multiplication and division methods, and most read and write these days. Most of us have access to calculators and the internet most of the time.
Women do most family cooking but a man who didn't know how to prepare food and cook a basic meal, a simple sauce, or make a flatbread would be seen as under-educated and quietly scorned, as would a girl who couldn't tell you what metal was what even though she'd not need to know for a living.
I think your underestimating how easily a motivated self starter can get themself hired and progress themselves upwards if they want to especially against lazy entitled competition. I accept that is with manual stuff.
No one ever taught me half of what I know, I just picked it up, even as a girl.

Not everyone depends on traditional bits of paper and formal apprenticeships to get where they want and there's plenty of employers out there will take on someone who turns up and works, as long as they don't realize the background.

Edited to say: Sorry that was supposed to have the quote from the poster who said you'd struggle to become a chef or a hairdresser without GCSE's or college, and wouldn't get an apprenticeship.

The families I know all push for diagnosis as it allows things like driving at 16, if you can get it. So it’s encouraged and supported. your not necessarily obtaining that diagnosis for actual support as such but for the doors it opens. So it’s encouraged, and a badge of honour in a way. But it’s also not seen as a true diagnosis, it’s getting one over on the system.
So once you’ve got it that’s where the story ends. For actual support and the child’s just accepted and treated as if they don’t have it - assuming it’s not glaringly obvious, which it probably isn’t as they are masking.

it really doesn’t seem to be the hard and fast all pulled out at 11 rule anymore. It seems to be more of a choice on a child per child basis. I know lots of families who have some in secondary and some not.
The ones not in secondary school tend to be the boys who are either in the family businesses or have been bought a van and a driver to have their own business. Most girls (from what I see) are staying until gcse now.

You missed the enraged posts about the 18 year old who was imprisoned for exactly that whilst on holiday in Dubai. The overwhelming majority of posts were that the Law of the country he was in with his consenting younger girlfriend was that it was perfectly OK and it was barbaric to criminalise him.

And not everyone is a motivated self starter in any culture. There will always be people like you who are motivated to learn and achieve and that’s great.

But to deny them the opportunities and choices that we expect women to have in the 21st century just seems awful. Of course marrying young is a legitimate choice but it should be that, surely - an informed choice

At 16, people wouldn’t know if the person was a good person. You know fuck all about most things at that age.

So if they have ND, they can drive at 16? Or have I misunderstood your post?

A lot of SAHM have a masters degree. A lot of women carry on their education after having children. So yes, women may leave education for a bit, but not forever.

Tied to wherever they dwell ,children soon at 16 her world has shrunk who'd want that for their daughter .
It being cultural doesn't make it right.

Very young marriage is associated with higher divorce rates than somewhat later marriage. Although this wouldn't be my primary reason for objecting to marriage at 16, getting married very young does increase the chances of divorce.

What happens if you get injured/ill and can't do manual work. As most basic office jobs require a degree now or at least extensive IT skills, what do people do instead?

Oh please. She's a Nepo baby who is already working as an influencer. Her world is bigger than any of ours.

On the Isle of Man you can drive and pass your test at 16.

You can also vote at 16.

I do think she is young but also think she looked lovely.

I don’t want to be critical - but I think it makes a difference the the Isle of Man isn’t part of the UK, so hd it’s own rules that are sometimes different to UK rules.

ps. Edited as have fat fingers and a small phone keyboard so typos !

Yes if you qualify you can drive at 16

My god its a marriage not a death sentence

If you're hating on a young woman's wedding at your big age, says more about you....

Agree with Lunar. I work with Traveller women and men, 5 days a week, and they place a huge premium on education and self-development, to the point where a big number of ladies did a two-year Leadership course at one of Ireland's top universities, juggling family commitments and work commitments around it. Sad to see negative stereotypes prevailing on this thread - it is quite clear that those people haven't really gotten to know any Travellers.

I think people are expressing concern about informed consent re the marriage when she's not allowed to do gcse's and how much agency she will have going forward.

I always think its strange how people judgrd travellers the way that they did.

A lot of people seemed to think of travellers as sub human.

What, just because they move around and don't stay in the one place?

a traveller child’s real life maths skills like counting and dealing with cash are leaps and bounds above non travellers.

most of the women travellers I know all have their own businesses. Beauty, hair and make up, floristry, cafes, food vans. They work incredibly hard, whilst also bringing up the kids.

granted the ones I’m friends with are more liberal because otherwise (as an outsider) I wouldn’t be invited to events etc.

When was that decided?

Then you were at a poor state school. In my large state secondary school the whole of the top two sets ( we were ‘settled’ for English and Maths) went to university and most of the third and fourth set to some form of further education too. There were at least ten aspiring doctors and as many aspiring vets and dentists and pharmacists. Loads of aspiring lawyers and engineers and physicists. A few actuaries and other scientists. I know that the majority did in fact enter their chosen careers.

The school had an academic ethos and you were encouraged to look ahead from day 1 and think about how you’d earn a good living and what you’d need to do to get there.

If every child in the UK could enter their chosen career,
we wouldnt have as much poverty as we do in the U.K.

There are huge numbers of people using the food bank near me.

Really?

You think being an 'influencer' means someone has a bigger world?

How big is that world other than online self-promotion?