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AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 12:49

Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Met call up armoured cars as London braces for a day of protests

In a package of measures billed as the toughest ever, 4,000 officers will be deployed to deal with the Tommy Robinson-led Unite the Kingdom rally and a pro-Palestine gathering to mark Nakba Day.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/05/2026 10:17

TwinklyGoldPeer · 17/05/2026 10:04

I think you've taken that post figuratively not literally!

It’s the same old trope, assuming people are fearful of losing their benefits.
In reality working class areas are predominantly impacted with the issues, 1000’s of hmo properties in the area.
I live in a working class area in the city, one of 5, all of siblings live in the nicer parts of the city, they’re not as impacted as we are, although my sister lives in a home worth over 1 million, I’d love to upload the photos of the new hmo neighbours, urinating against people’s homes with children playing in the area. Each resident has their own fridge and cooking facilities, the children can’t play out unattended as there men think nothing of wiping out their penis to urinate wherever they fancy.
Obviously the neighbours are horrified.

Cheeks4970 · 17/05/2026 10:19

If any of you want to understand what life is like for the Palestinians then go to the ‘Breaking the Silence’ website and/or Instagram page and start reading accounts from Israelis who served in the military.

They are not made up stories.

Start to build a picture in your mind about what they have endured and then you might understand why things have happened.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/05/2026 10:23

Cheeks4970 · 17/05/2026 10:19

If any of you want to understand what life is like for the Palestinians then go to the ‘Breaking the Silence’ website and/or Instagram page and start reading accounts from Israelis who served in the military.

They are not made up stories.

Start to build a picture in your mind about what they have endured and then you might understand why things have happened.

I listened to a podcast about a Christian family living in Palestine, the brutal attacks, robberies, intimidation by vicious settlers is barbarism, has been for a very long time.

noblegiraffe · 17/05/2026 10:23

Cheeks4970 · 17/05/2026 10:13

Yes I do.

No one should believe what they are told completely and unquestionably. Particularly when there's a war.

inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:25

Cheeks4970 · 17/05/2026 10:19

If any of you want to understand what life is like for the Palestinians then go to the ‘Breaking the Silence’ website and/or Instagram page and start reading accounts from Israelis who served in the military.

They are not made up stories.

Start to build a picture in your mind about what they have endured and then you might understand why things have happened.

Still not explaining how launching terror attacks on your neighbour is supposed to improve 'what life is like for Palestinians'.
Testimonies of random people on the internet might be interesting and even valuable, but they’re not the universal truth.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:27

Cheeks4970 · 16/05/2026 22:09

You’ve still not been able to show me one route map of a March that went through a Jewish area?

I’m still waiting.

You've ignored all the articles listed, so far and dismissed them. Go back and read them! The police articles, you dismissed because Palestinie Action don't agree with the police comments 😂 police reroute away from synagogues much to annoyance of marches 😂 through the thread and read them.

Broken record that ignored what has been shared by myself and others is very primary school.

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inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:28

noblegiraffe · 17/05/2026 10:23

No one should believe what they are told completely and unquestionably. Particularly when there's a war.

This. Common sense, surely?

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:29

HRTQueen · 16/05/2026 22:24

It’s doesn’t

but many people use this atrocity to be now more open with their antisemitism a few years ago it was all about banking and finance

just like racists will use their concerns about immigration to make racist statements

its not hard for others to see through this

Totally. It's see through. The hatred is clear for those of us that choose not to ignore it. Others march alongside and choose to ignore it.

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IonianNerveGrip · 17/05/2026 10:29

inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:03

I’m aware of what the march was about.
Do you honestly believe though, that the entire history of the Israel-Palestine conflict is completely black-and-white?
That Israel has always been the sole aggressor?
That before the Nakba happened, the newly established state of Israel wasn’t immediately attacked by several of its neighbours?
That there were no ongoing terror attacks and rocket fire against Israel by the Palestinian side?

Tbh even if they do, that doesn't remotely explain why 7th October was of benefit to Gazans. It's a question about tactics, not whether you think the Israelis deserved it.

inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:30

IonianNerveGrip · 17/05/2026 10:29

Tbh even if they do, that doesn't remotely explain why 7th October was of benefit to Gazans. It's a question about tactics, not whether you think the Israelis deserved it.

Exactly.

TwinklyGoldPeer · 17/05/2026 10:33

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:29

Totally. It's see through. The hatred is clear for those of us that choose not to ignore it. Others march alongside and choose to ignore it.

Splinter groups know the marches are not in good faith. Passionate marchers led by propaganda make up the rest of the group. It's gone on too long, has achieved nothing except violence and cost millions. Ridiculous to think they now feel like a main stay in the city of London.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:37

IonianNerveGrip · 17/05/2026 08:26

Yes, quite how anyone thinks 7th October was a positive for Gazans is beyond me.

Sinwar and the Hamas leadership thought they'd be able to get their allies to join in more after a headline attack on 7th October, they called that wrong, the outcome was predictable and the price has been paid not only by people who deserved it but also by ordinary civilians who had no control over any events. It's empowered the lunatic terror settlers in the West Bank, who now have the examples of peace activist, pro-Palestinian Israelis like Oded Lifshitz and Vivian Silver being deliberately targeted by Hamas to hold up.

It was an incredibly fucking stupid idea, and that was obvious to anyone with a remotely informed and dispassionate analysis of the situation.

Exactly. Yet some of the early marches were pictured with Hamas colours and offensive 'paragliding' images, showing clear support for Hamas!

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Cheeks4970 · 17/05/2026 10:41

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:27

You've ignored all the articles listed, so far and dismissed them. Go back and read them! The police articles, you dismissed because Palestinie Action don't agree with the police comments 😂 police reroute away from synagogues much to annoyance of marches 😂 through the thread and read them.

Broken record that ignored what has been shared by myself and others is very primary school.

You’ve just referred to articles - do you believe everything the media tells you?

You said that organisers deliberately planned routes through Jewish areas and synagogues and I asked you to show me a route map that confirms that and you can’t.

TwinklyGoldPeer · 17/05/2026 10:42

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:37

Exactly. Yet some of the early marches were pictured with Hamas colours and offensive 'paragliding' images, showing clear support for Hamas!

I remember seeing a man wearing a football shirt with number 7 and his name just happened to be Hamas. That was in the immediate aftermath of 7/10. When you thought that was bad enough we've had doctors, among others, showing explicit hatred. Luckily one of those doctors is facing repercussions but there are hundreds if not thousands of bad faith actors who have got away with inciting violence and then rubbing jews' noses in it. It has to STOP.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/05/2026 10:42

inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:25

Still not explaining how launching terror attacks on your neighbour is supposed to improve 'what life is like for Palestinians'.
Testimonies of random people on the internet might be interesting and even valuable, but they’re not the universal truth.

It certainly got the attention of the world watching Palestine.
So many questions as to how they were even able to achieve this goal under the intense security conditions that Israel had in place.

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inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:44

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:37

Exactly. Yet some of the early marches were pictured with Hamas colours and offensive 'paragliding' images, showing clear support for Hamas!

There were also all those people tearing down hostage posters.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:47

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/05/2026 10:42

It certainly got the attention of the world watching Palestine.
So many questions as to how they were even able to achieve this goal under the intense security conditions that Israel had in place.

You sound proud.

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TwinklyGoldPeer · 17/05/2026 10:47

inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:44

There were also all those people tearing down hostage posters.

I place that on the same despicable low level of the Hamas football shirt wearer. These actions don't denote anything but hate.

TwinklyGoldPeer · 17/05/2026 10:48

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:47

You sound proud.

Oh 7/10 was an inside job don't you know!

inamarina · 17/05/2026 10:53

Cheeks4970 · 17/05/2026 10:41

You’ve just referred to articles - do you believe everything the media tells you?

You said that organisers deliberately planned routes through Jewish areas and synagogues and I asked you to show me a route map that confirms that and you can’t.

You’re berating pp for believing what media tells them, yet admit to not questioning any information coming out of Palestine (including from Hamas).

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/05/2026 10:54

HeyHoHenryHippy · 17/05/2026 10:47

You sound proud.

Proud of what? The October 7th attacks, not a chance, the flattening of Gaza? not a chance. The rape tortured and murder carried out on both sides against innocent people? No. I am religious and would never support the violence.
How could anyone be proud of that.
Unlike some people.
They're all sicko’s imo.

IonianNerveGrip · 17/05/2026 10:58

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/05/2026 10:42

It certainly got the attention of the world watching Palestine.
So many questions as to how they were even able to achieve this goal under the intense security conditions that Israel had in place.

It did, but again that hasn't translated into anything good for Palestinians.

inamarina · 17/05/2026 11:01

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/05/2026 10:42

It certainly got the attention of the world watching Palestine.
So many questions as to how they were even able to achieve this goal under the intense security conditions that Israel had in place.

Are you suggesting Israel just let it happen to their own citizens for some nefarious reasons?
While the plucky resistance fighters in charge of Gaza simply wanted the best for their own people?

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