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AIBU to turn away from this man?

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NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:00

FWB for 4.5 years and have just fallen in love with him. Need help.

I am against relationships. My horrible abusive prior marriage fucked me up so badly. I can't describe the shock when he walked out and left me alone in a foreign country, where we had made our lives, and the longterm depression that followed. I've seen the underbelly of relationships and now I can never un-see it. This total lack of faith in commitment is how I managed to stay feelings-free for so long. I do not believe in love. Everyone's out for themselves and male love is so shallow, all based on looks. You only have to look at the difference between how slim women and larger women are treated to see that. I have been both. When I was very slim, many years ago, the power I had with men was insane. It's truly pathetic.

He's a filthy dirty sexy man who has been lovely to me for a long time, and 18 months ago told me that he loves me. We don't that near, about an hour apart, so there's a built-in stop, which suits me well. I know he was unfaithful in his last marriage, which is a big thing that put me off. I figured that I was so broken about relationships and they were all crap and that I'd rather be hung up by my thumbs than ever marry or live with anyone again, so I might as well sleep with the sexy rogue. I could not ever imagine having anything but in-the-moment feelings for anyone again.

Maybe you would call it a casual relationship rather than FWB.

He's just lost his second parent and he sent me a link to the hundreds of family photos he's putting into a video. I made the mistake of looking at them, and I saw how gorgeous he was down the years, and still is, and how lovely his family is, and I don't know, it's done something to me. He looks so good in his new suit for the funeral. Now I'm sitting here playing teenage love songs and contemplating sending him Falling by Angry Anderson! It wouldn't be inappropriate, he's said he loves me many times, but I don't believe him. If he can cheat on his former wife and the mother of his children, he can do it to anyone.

I think relationships are a pile of utter horseshit. They promise the earth and then let you down from a great height. And don't get me started on marriage. Most people shouldn't be married. Most cannot live up to the promises of marriage. So I see no point, except to have sexy in-the-moment fun, and we have had a ton of that.

Now, how do I get out of these feelings? Withdraw a little? Throw a bucket of cold water over myself? See other people? I have actually tried that over the years, and found a couple of people I liked who ruined it by getting really sexual really fast. My FWB has excellent bedroom manners. I haven't really tried to date others in ages because my dad got cancer in 2022 and died in 2025.

YABU - Go for it with him. Send the song, fall into his arms, throw caution to the wind.
YANBU - Making a conscious decision not to play the love game is a perfectly reasonable approach to life if the stakes are too high for you. Withdraw gracefully.

I'm too old to have kids and he has adult kids, so there's no issue with life trajectories or anything. We're past all that.

OP posts:
MyLimeGuide · Today 19:34

He's a filthy dirty sexy man who has been lovely to me for a long time,
AND
so I might as well sleep with the sexy rogue.

This post is brilliant OP, Hilarious!! Not sure though, yes just have some fun!! Lol xx

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:36

MyLimeGuide · Today 19:34

He's a filthy dirty sexy man who has been lovely to me for a long time,
AND
so I might as well sleep with the sexy rogue.

This post is brilliant OP, Hilarious!! Not sure though, yes just have some fun!! Lol xx

But I have fallen in love and now I'm fucking miserable because I can't tell you what a terrible idea this is.

I think I'm going to pull back.

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WeAreNotOk · Today 19:37

I don't know the song so can't comment on that bit.
I wouldn't get married again, tried 3 times, so I'd rather be a bit lonely, doing my own thing than having to 'share life' again.
I think a lot of older people (past the age of having/wanting kids) commit to relationships to ward off loneliness in old age and to pool resources to have a more comfortable life. There's nothing wrong with that if it all goes well but you only have to read on here about how people change and regrets slip in.
It's one thing to admit you love him but another to move in together or get married. Why not keep things as they are if it works for you?

MyLimeGuide · Today 19:37

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:36

But I have fallen in love and now I'm fucking miserable because I can't tell you what a terrible idea this is.

I think I'm going to pull back.

Yes, probably the more sensible option.

wafflesmgee · Today 19:39

In my eyes if you are sleeping with a married man you are part of the problem. In terms of your question, no, don’t fall in love with a married man, it is clear he is treating you badly and his wife too. If you don’t believe in relationships that’s your choice, it doesn’t give you the right to help mess up someone else’s marriage though. He sounds awful. 🤢

NoArmaniNoPunani · Today 19:40

Give it a go but do a relationship on your terms. It doesn't have to be much different from from what you've been doing with him so far. Love doesn't have to mean living together or getting married.

wafflesmgee · Today 19:41

You need therapy. You have actively chosen a relationship that would reinforce your negative views (which makes sense given your awful experiences 🌺) but if you are still miserable you need to work on yourself separately from being with anyone.

BlueMum16 · Today 19:41

He's single.
You're single
The sex sounds great
You appear to really like him
And he loves you.

Life is a gamble.

Take one,.have fun..it either works or it doesn't but don't throw it all away just because you've been hurt before

NoArmaniNoPunani · Today 19:42

wafflesmgee · Today 19:39

In my eyes if you are sleeping with a married man you are part of the problem. In terms of your question, no, don’t fall in love with a married man, it is clear he is treating you badly and his wife too. If you don’t believe in relationships that’s your choice, it doesn’t give you the right to help mess up someone else’s marriage though. He sounds awful. 🤢

He's not married

whattheysay · Today 19:43

wafflesmgee · Today 19:39

In my eyes if you are sleeping with a married man you are part of the problem. In terms of your question, no, don’t fall in love with a married man, it is clear he is treating you badly and his wife too. If you don’t believe in relationships that’s your choice, it doesn’t give you the right to help mess up someone else’s marriage though. He sounds awful. 🤢

I don’t see where she’s said he is married now, she talks about his ex wife ?

wafflesmgee · Today 19:45

Oh I am sorry I misread that, sorry.

swqa · Today 19:46

You should've stopped sleeping with him 18 months ago.

Nain2026 · Today 19:51

Normally I'd say throw caution to the winds and go for it BUT he's bereaved and now is not the right time.

DogsandFlowers · Today 19:52

I’ve just listened to that song, I’m implore you NOT TO SEND IT, it’s horrific and you will be cringing into next year this time next week.

bigboykitty · Today 19:52

Do you feel that he's trustworthy now? Does he do what he says he'll do? Is he reliable and considerate (as well as an amazing, hot shag obviously). He sounds very vulnerable at the moment, having lost a parent recently. Do you think this might be adding weight to your feelings for him? Making you feel more tender towards him, perhaps?

Instead of some big, dramatic scene, why not just tell him that you've realised you also have strong feelings for him that go far beyond FWB? See how he responds and maybe have some talks about what a more permanent relationship might look like.

I gave myself one last shot recently after being single for an age. It ended badly. I don't regret it, in spite of being hurt, because the good bits were amazing and I needed to know if it could work and be something meaningful.

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:53

wafflesmgee · Today 19:39

In my eyes if you are sleeping with a married man you are part of the problem. In terms of your question, no, don’t fall in love with a married man, it is clear he is treating you badly and his wife too. If you don’t believe in relationships that’s your choice, it doesn’t give you the right to help mess up someone else’s marriage though. He sounds awful. 🤢

Eh? I said in his last marriage. He's divorced, due to his infidelity.

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bigboykitty · Today 19:54

PS do not send the song. It's H I D E O U S !

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:56

DogsandFlowers · Today 19:52

I’ve just listened to that song, I’m implore you NOT TO SEND IT, it’s horrific and you will be cringing into next year this time next week.

🤣🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭 Oh, I think it's beautiful! But I am really glad of the sisterly advice not to send it - THANK YOU!

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NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:57

bigboykitty · Today 19:54

PS do not send the song. It's H I D E O U S !

LMAO!

See, this is the sisterhood! Would rather be married into a sisterhood of nice women any day!

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NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:58

bigboykitty · Today 19:54

PS do not send the song. It's H I D E O U S !

How can you say it's hideous? It's beautiful!

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MyLimeGuide · Today 19:59

bigboykitty · Today 19:54

PS do not send the song. It's H I D E O U S !

Funny though! Everything about this thread soooo funny!

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:59

swqa · Today 19:46

You should've stopped sleeping with him 18 months ago.

Probably. And you know, I did tell him at the start that I wasn't into any big romantic feelings so not to catch them. He completely ignored me and has texted me almost every day since then. No caution whatsoever.

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SlumChum · Today 19:59

You don't have to get married. You don't have to live with him. But you can love each other. Give yourself permission. Have a wonderful time. Date. Cuddle. Support each other. Go for it.

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 20:00

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 19:58

How can you say it's hideous? It's beautiful!

Haha, I'm glad my misfortune amuses you! 🤣

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SevenYellowHammers · Today 20:00

keep the status quo - and the magic alive !