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Almost 80 MPs have called for Starmer to Resign. Streeting making his move before Burnham has a chance to get in. Leadership election between Starmer, Streeting & Rayner, & a few MPs looking to make a name. Official Tue 12th?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 21:44

Link to spreadsheet of Labour MPS calling for resignation - https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

Streeting has to make his move now, Starmer will never be this weak and he has the chance to go now.

Burnham might be more likely to win, but he is not in, and where exactly is a safe seat by election they could parachute him in for? (nowhere)

So - Streeting will never have a better chance of being PM, he pulls the trigger NOW or he never pulls it at all.

I did say on Thursday that I thought it would be Friday or Monday.... Tuesday is a pretty good guess.

This is a quiet Bat People moment... That Speech... not worth remembering...

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https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

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Ilovemyshed · Yesterday 22:25

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:05

Reform gets a majority quite possibly on there own or way more likely, as a three way informal campaigning agreement between Tories, Restore and Reform

Just because you support Reform doesn’t mean we all so. I do not support a fascist government.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:26

Ilovemyshed · Yesterday 22:25

Just because you support Reform doesn’t mean we all so. I do not support a fascist government.

Luckily I know what fascism means, and the differences between that ideology and the Reform manifesto.

Could you please point at what parts of the Reform manifesto are "fascist"?

With quotes please.

(The last party I was a member of, was Green, god help me, I am not a fascist)

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BreadInCaptivity · Yesterday 22:26

A revolving door of PM’s isn’t a good look and frankly it’s not going to solve the underlying issues.

The whole of the Labour PLP needs to take a look in the mirror and consider why so many people are voting for other parties (and especially the shit shows that are Reform and Green) rather than blame the losses on Starmer alone.

Labour MP’s pushed him into lifting the 2 child benefit cap which was a very unpopular move and played right into the hands of Reform.

They refuse any negotiation on the pension triple lock which was only ever implemented as a temporary protocol but no subsequent govt has had the balls to end.

The likes of Burnham and Raynor are not the answer. They are simply a Labour version of a Liz Truss moment waiting to happen.

Streeting might have offer a temporary reprieve but if they prevent him from making meaningful policy changes that have a tangible impact on the concerns of “squeezed middle” the same as they have done with Starmer then we are going to be in the exact same position in 6 months time when his honeymoon period has worn off and welcome to a hung parliament next GE where Reform are highly likely to be in position to run a minority or coalition govt.

ByGraptharsHammer · Yesterday 22:27

They are mad. Hang together or be hanged separately. Just like the Tories and their terrible letters haranguing for resignations.

I don’t see Reform having these issues. You can declare foreigners make useful road glue and they back you. Depressing

GiaGia16 · Yesterday 22:28

BreadInCaptivity · Yesterday 22:26

A revolving door of PM’s isn’t a good look and frankly it’s not going to solve the underlying issues.

The whole of the Labour PLP needs to take a look in the mirror and consider why so many people are voting for other parties (and especially the shit shows that are Reform and Green) rather than blame the losses on Starmer alone.

Labour MP’s pushed him into lifting the 2 child benefit cap which was a very unpopular move and played right into the hands of Reform.

They refuse any negotiation on the pension triple lock which was only ever implemented as a temporary protocol but no subsequent govt has had the balls to end.

The likes of Burnham and Raynor are not the answer. They are simply a Labour version of a Liz Truss moment waiting to happen.

Streeting might have offer a temporary reprieve but if they prevent him from making meaningful policy changes that have a tangible impact on the concerns of “squeezed middle” the same as they have done with Starmer then we are going to be in the exact same position in 6 months time when his honeymoon period has worn off and welcome to a hung parliament next GE where Reform are highly likely to be in position to run a minority or coalition govt.

I think the lifting of the two child cap was the final straw for many.

FatEndoftheWedge · Yesterday 22:29

But farage had also mentioned lifting the cap then they renaged

GiaGia16 · Yesterday 22:30

FatEndoftheWedge · Yesterday 22:29

But farage had also mentioned lifting the cap then they renaged

Definitely not now.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:30

ByGraptharsHammer · Yesterday 22:27

They are mad. Hang together or be hanged separately. Just like the Tories and their terrible letters haranguing for resignations.

I don’t see Reform having these issues. You can declare foreigners make useful road glue and they back you. Depressing

if by "back" you mean "get suspended right away" you're right

Rightly suspended as well

It's not working throwing things at Reform, They keep polling higher and are 12 hours from brining down the PM of the UK

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FatEndoftheWedge · Yesterday 22:30

@ByGraptharsHammer well apparently streeting isn't the nicest person either ?

Sunglade · Yesterday 22:31

I am so sad about this. I'm not a huge fan of Starmer but I really felt he offered at least a level head and it felt like there was an adult in charge for a change. I get that the local elections spelled disaster, but I just think the country needs some stability rather than constant turmoil..

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 22:32

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:05

Reform gets a majority quite possibly on there own or way more likely, as a three way informal campaigning agreement between Tories, Restore and Reform

Be very careful what you wish for.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:33

Sunglade · Yesterday 22:31

I am so sad about this. I'm not a huge fan of Starmer but I really felt he offered at least a level head and it felt like there was an adult in charge for a change. I get that the local elections spelled disaster, but I just think the country needs some stability rather than constant turmoil..

Sitting and rotting - which we are, is no choice at all

Its REALY BAD we just have not noticed

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ByGraptharsHammer · Yesterday 22:34

FatEndoftheWedge · Yesterday 22:30

@ByGraptharsHammer well apparently streeting isn't the nicest person either ?

He has a tiny majority. Literally a terrible pick unless he is going to get a better seat. And how does he address this cadre of MPs who write public bitching letters? Labour MPs need their heads examined

Sunglade · Yesterday 22:34

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:33

Sitting and rotting - which we are, is no choice at all

Its REALY BAD we just have not noticed

What do you mean sitting and rotting?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:34

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 22:32

Be very careful what you wish for.

The only other thing on the table - is Labour, or Labour + Greens.... and I'd not want to live in that country. Not to mention the fact we would not even have a country, what with leaving NATO and having literally no borders

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TemperanceWest · Yesterday 22:34

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:30

if by "back" you mean "get suspended right away" you're right

Rightly suspended as well

It's not working throwing things at Reform, They keep polling higher and are 12 hours from brining down the PM of the UK

No, the Nigerians as pothole filler one is being investigated. Not yet suspended.

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · Yesterday 22:35

If Starmer is replaced by someone who the markets don’t trust to run the economy, for whatever reason, the amount the UK needs to pay to borrow money will increase (as the risk has increased in lenders’ minds).

At some point, and it isn’t terribly far off, we can’t afford to service our debt at those higher rates while maintaining Govt spending levels.

So, the UK’s choice becomes defaulting on the debt OR cutting spending. Many Labour MPs won’t like that choice and might be minded to vote against the leader in a NC vote. At the same time, the clamouring from the public makes continuing politically untenable.

Hence, how an early election comes about.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:35

Sunglade · Yesterday 22:34

What do you mean sitting and rotting?

Watch the video. Do you have any idea how poor we are compared to say the USA?

Sitting and doing nothing is not an option but thats all Labour has done...

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ColdinHTK · Yesterday 22:36

GiaGia16 · Yesterday 22:28

I think the lifting of the two child cap was the final straw for many.

Weren’t they also supposed to be tightening PIP criteria so only be for more severe disability but the back benchers wouldn’t support it?

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 22:36

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · Yesterday 22:35

If Starmer is replaced by someone who the markets don’t trust to run the economy, for whatever reason, the amount the UK needs to pay to borrow money will increase (as the risk has increased in lenders’ minds).

At some point, and it isn’t terribly far off, we can’t afford to service our debt at those higher rates while maintaining Govt spending levels.

So, the UK’s choice becomes defaulting on the debt OR cutting spending. Many Labour MPs won’t like that choice and might be minded to vote against the leader in a NC vote. At the same time, the clamouring from the public makes continuing politically untenable.

Hence, how an early election comes about.

Like 1979.

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 22:37

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:35

Watch the video. Do you have any idea how poor we are compared to say the USA?

Sitting and doing nothing is not an option but thats all Labour has done...

Sitting and doing nothing would have been kinder. They set fire to an already dead economy.

Anonymouseposter · Yesterday 22:38

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:17

No.

It has nothing to do with knowing for sure they will win and everything to do with governing with a mandate and with authority

Right now they do not have it, as proven with the local elections

if they do NOT call an election they will be hounded to call one every single PMQs and every newspaper article for YEARSs

Let alone the chance of civil unrest

They can be hounded as much as anyone likes, there’s no reason why they should call a general election in the current climate and.as for civil unrest, that would be more likely if they did call a general election.

Sunglade · Yesterday 22:38

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:35

Watch the video. Do you have any idea how poor we are compared to say the USA?

Sitting and doing nothing is not an option but thats all Labour has done...

The UK isn't poor, wealth disparity makes the majority relatively poor which parties like Labour work to remedy.
Labour have actually made some good progress on wealth redistribution, worker's and renter's rights, and also worked towards reducing high levels of immigration but they don't spend lots on PR so very few people are aware of what they've been doing. Which is a shame because it felt like we were starting to steer away from the death spiral the last Tories had us in.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 22:40

Anonymouseposter · Yesterday 22:38

They can be hounded as much as anyone likes, there’s no reason why they should call a general election in the current climate and.as for civil unrest, that would be more likely if they did call a general election.

This is a special level of naivety.

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OneTealShaker · Yesterday 22:41

Sunglade · Yesterday 22:38

The UK isn't poor, wealth disparity makes the majority relatively poor which parties like Labour work to remedy.
Labour have actually made some good progress on wealth redistribution, worker's and renter's rights, and also worked towards reducing high levels of immigration but they don't spend lots on PR so very few people are aware of what they've been doing. Which is a shame because it felt like we were starting to steer away from the death spiral the last Tories had us in.

Renter’s rights. Whoah, what an achievement. Take a bow, Labour.

In other news, advances nations are building the hyperloop. While the UK introduced renter rights bill. Oh how this country has fallen.