Almost 80 MPs have called for Starmer to Resign. Streeting making his move before Burnham has a chance to get in. Leadership election between Starmer, Streeting & Rayner, & a few MPs looking to make a name. Official Tue 12th?

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Link to spreadsheet of Labour MPS calling for resignation - https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

Streeting has to make his move now, Starmer will never be this weak and he has the chance to go now.

Burnham might be more likely to win, but he is not in, and where exactly is a safe seat by election they could parachute him in for? (nowhere)

So - Streeting will never have a better chance of being PM, he pulls the trigger NOW or he never pulls it at all.

I did say on Thursday that I thought it would be Friday or Monday.... Tuesday is a pretty good guess.

This is a quiet Bat People moment... That Speech... not worth remembering...

At his school Dulwich College, an expensive private school.

Weirdly never in the thirty years prior - they ONLY came forward when the press started waving cash about....

Where are you getting that number from? Because the number of votes hasn’t been certified released yet? It’s estimated somewhere around 4 to 5,000,000 which I find shocking but that’s not my point.

Or maybe... when Starmer himself said 99.9% of women did NOT have a penis....

https://news.sky.com/story/keir-starmer-says-99-9-of-women-havent-got-a-penis-as-he-faces-questions-over-trans-rights-12848438

There won't be. It's also a monumentally stupid time to change PM. He's experienced & has excellent relationships with European & even current MAGA USA. Burnham, Raynes & God help us Streeting would be a disaster on the international stage.

I think they came forward as he became more politically prominent. Are you saying they are lying ?

Also Reform voters can't force a General Election that's not how it works. It wasn't long ago Elon Musk was trying to suggest it if I remember correctly!

You've been saying this for days OP.

I think your crystal ball is broken.

Who is the ‘we’ you’re referring to?

The villagers who’ve run to the square with rotten vegetables to throw at the pm in the stocks? Please do not include me in your ‘we’ nor the majority of MNetters by the look of most AIBU votes on this subject.

No. Labour will call a leadership election because they are fucked and they know they need legitimacy.

This is not about whether Starmer can have a nice chat with Macron or navigate a meeting with Trump. That matters, but it is not the central issue. The central issue is that the government is losing political authority at home. MPs can see it in their inboxes, their constituencies, the polling, the local election results and the general mood of the country.

A massive Commons majority gives Labour the legal power to carry on. It does not magically give Starmer personal legitimacy if the public and half his own party have stopped believing he can lead. And once that happens, foreign-policy experience becomes a weak defence. Other governments can see when a Prime Minister is politically dying.

Labour MPs are not going to sit there for four more years politely admiring Starmer’s international relationships while the party collapses underneath them. They will move because they need someone who can reset the government, face the country, and at least make a credible claim to a renewed mandate.

Why are you so sure? First of all, KS has to resign - and there’s no sign of that happening any time soon if at all. Then, a new PM has to be appointed. And they have to choose to call an election - but why would they want to do that? I think there’s a 1% chance of an election happening until 2029.

They’re not labour’s reforms. Most were proposed under a conservative bill that had to be scrapped before the 2024 election (including no fault evictions) …
so labour came along and gave it another name, passed it as act and took the credit.

Where are you getting that number from? Because the number of votes hasn’t been certified released yet? It’s estimated somewhere around 4 to 5,000,000 which I find shocking but that’s not my point.

Also, since Reform positioned themselves as the anti Starmer vote, it doesn't mean all of those people would actually vote for Reform in an election anyway. Some will have been a protest vote. Obviously more others could vote for him, as some people seem to find him charismatic trustworthy and charming.

Me and 77 Labour MPs... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OBYlmRwHPlRa9Lsk6nTGlgX7Ixn1C3oX6v-f6ogZDEI/htmlview?gid=0&pru=AAABnjy6xPo*awhWrj_x8obo-CQvlRS9xQ#gid=0

https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast

Your numbers are wrong

I'm sorry, are you not looking at the news?

No sign?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OBYlmRwHPlRa9Lsk6nTGlgX7Ixn1C3oX6v-f6ogZDEI/htmlview?gid=0&pru=AAABnjy6xPo*awhWrj_x8obo-CQvlRS9xQ#gid=0

He's off. tomorrow.

The press didn’t pay them to come forward. What are you talking about?

Again, you've been saying "tomorrow" for days.

Continuously repeating things does not make them true.

Eh? How?! You do realise this was just LOCAL elections and has nothing to do with a General Election?!
Reform aren't in power. We're not due a General Election for another few years yet.

Yes. On Friday there were....zero MPs calling for his resignation

As of just now - there is 77. I just gave you the names

That more than a Quarter....

Yes, obviously they were local elections. That is the point.

Local elections are how the public sends a warning between general elections. When the governing party gets hammered, MPs do not sit there saying “doesn’t count, wrong kind of election”. They panic because it tells them what is coming next.

Nobody is saying Reform are in power today. The point is that Labour MPs can see the direction of travel, and if they think Starmer is leading them into electoral annihilation, they will move before the general election, not after it.

All I can say is if those 77 don’t go any further then they have probably got the usual suspects and then 17 others who reckon a change of leadership means a promotion. That is not enough.

Then why were you saying "tomorrow" on Friday?

Wishful thinking will get you nowhere.

The self-importance of the mediocre is the terrifying curse of the Internet age.

And so it follows that it must indeed be tomorrow, like it was yesterday.

I can’t see how it was a bad thing. It’s going to make a really positive difference to the lives of many children. Shouldn’t we celebrate that?