AIBU? Hantavirus Liverpool

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I’ve just seen that the Hantavirus is in Liverpool?! They’ve been brought to Liverpool? I’ve got a 2 day work conference there and now I’m worried 😢 I suffer terribly with health anxiety. AIBU?

Do you REALLY believe the word 'suoervised'? It will be a daily phone call. People will go out and take their mobile phone with them! No way they'll stay in for 6 weeks if theyre feeling ok still after 2.
If thats all it takes why are other countries doing it differently? Also listen to the wording. They're being 'asked' not -'instructed' BIG DIFFERENCE

Seems you'll do anything to get out of this conference. Calm down!

You do know that it's very easy to track where a mobile phone is, don't you?

Haha rage bait. We don't want you h... oh wait we'd be lovely and welcoming to you anyway as we're just like that. However you'd be too busy staring at our stunning scenery and landscapes to notice. North york moors, north york dales, the whole of Northumberland, the Peak District oh and erm, the Lake District. Haha the south has nothing on the north. Nothing at all. Everyone loves the north now, your rhetoric is old and boring.

You forgot t'euphphonium and t'sparking clogs.

After Covid, why take any risks? The consequences of the virus spreading would be absolutely devastating.

Tell me you don’t understand that all viruses are different without telling me all viruses are different

You're rather uninformed. The first two deaths from the virus were a couple who visited a bird-watching site on a rubbish dump, whose rats are thought to be the source of the initial infection.

It is not a new strain. The strain local to the Andes, that is transmitted human to human, is the one they are infected with. I don't know where you imagine the ship was, but they were travelling through South America.

A flight attendant who can only have had brief contact with one of the infected passengers before she was deemed to sick to travel and removed from the plane is said to be infected and in hospital. Some say 20, some say 30, some say more passengers disembarked long before any of this became news and travelled to all parts of the globe and are being rather clumsily traced...

I wouldn't be getting too anxious about it myself, but it is a little alarming.

The Australian passengers are being flown to a purpose-built quarantine facility like a massive hospital army barracks, otherwise empty, where they will be in quarantine for three weeks - and then they can return home to self-isolate.

Yep. From the Guardian:

"Greece’s health ministry said a male evacuee will spend 45 days in mandatory hospital quarantine in Athens. Authorities said the man will be placed in a specially prepared negative-pressure chamber at Attikon university hospital.
In Spain, 14 citizens will be placed in biosafety isolation beds at the Gómez Ulla military hospital in Madrid." etc

"The Philippines government has confirmed 38 Filipino seafarers working on the ship will quarantine in Rotterdam before repatriation home.
India confirmed that two of its nationals on board the ship, working as crew, had been evacuated to the Netherlands where they will be quarantined."

Australia, for three weeks in a quarantine facility, as per previous post.

UK and US, 72 hours! Then off you trot.

Why, because you’re a Southern snowflake?

You are forgetting the plane loads of people travelling from plague infested Europe who were very surprised that there were absolutely no suggestions for wearing masks, isolating and avoiding crowds when they landed in the UK, and the Cheltenham festival when people from all over the country mingled for several days infecting each other before travelling home on trains or in cars making sure they stopped off at Motorway service stations en route.

That's not correct. Humans caught it from other humans on the ship. 30 odd people left the ship before the outbreak was confirmed (due to the 3 week incubation period), coming into contact with God knows how many people as they subsequantly flew around the World.

These people probably paid a lot of money for that cruise that was supposed to be a trip of a lifetime. Instead they ended up trapped on a plague ship with an incurable disease running amok. Plus the inconvenience of having to isolate for 45+ days. What it they need to go to work?. Who is going to pay their salary? In their place I would be looking for someone to sue.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/andes-hantavirus-epidemiology-outbreaks-and-guidance
This is a bit muddled, but suggests it is airborne.

It is Merseyside! And the park is rather nice actually!

I hate to say it but that's actually the reason they are going to arrowe park. Its got and A&E dept, accommodation on site but separate to the main hospital. And if they test positive they'll use the LSTM

What do you expect though?

No, you're rather uninformed, having taken all your information from the Daily Mail.

Um, no. The BBC website.

Don't be daft. They'll be retired. They won't have to work. Who else goes on a cruise for 3 or 4 weeks?

The flight attendant has had two negative test results.

If you want to sound cool you say you are a scouser. If you want to sound posh you say you are from the Wirral. There are plenty of million pound houses with swimming pools 100 meters from Arrow Park and all the diversity and culture in the world over the Mersey.

Yes, I was just googling to see that. What was reported that I saw mentioned and then read a few reports on was she that had had brief contact with the evacuated passenger, exhibited mild symptoms, and was hospitalised.

All the rest stands. And I did not read it in the Daily Mail!

From the gov.uk website linked to earlier. It SHOULD be considered airborne and transmission is possible in the prodromal phase (before synptoms) so yeah sending yhem.home after 3 days and asking them.to isolate is a potential recipe for disaster.

*It is unclear how human-to-human transmission of ANDV occurs, but it appears that close contact with an infected person is necessary, and airborne transmission should be considered a possibility. Close contact with infected cases within a household setting has been shown to increase the risk of transmission tenfold and transmission often occurs in family clusters.

Epidemiological studies suggest that human-to-human transmission can occur during the prodromal phase. In late 2018, an outbreak occurred in Chubut province, Argentina. A single suspected symptomatic index case attended a party in Epuyén where secondary transmission is thought to have occurred.

In total there were 34 confirmed cases, including 11 deaths, and 142 people were placed in quarantine*