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To wonder on the future of generous welfare in the UK

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happybug1234 · 11/05/2026 12:51

It seems increasingly obvious that many middle-income families are becoming frustrated at how squeezed they are financially, while at the same time seeing people on universal credit receive a growing range of subsidies and support — £1 attraction tickets on days out, a 6% rise in benefits this financial year, childcare costs reclaimable through Universal Credit, housing benefit, and so on. I see thread after thread on this on this site and also increasing momentum in the media on this issue (income cliff edges etc)

In my own extended family, 1 unemployed parent with the other on min wage, in social housing appear to have more holidays and more disposable income than we do, despite us both working full time with a household income of around £95k. Once childcare, mortgage, insurances, commuting and tax are taken into account, we 100% have a lower level of disposable income than they do as they do not have any of these work related costs and their rent is paid. They have recently gone on a 2 week holiday whilst the most we can ever afford is 1 week.

Quite a few teachers in my friendship circle are declining promotion opportunities or TLR because the extra pay often doesn’t feel worth the additional stress once tax, pension contributions and childcare costs are factored in. Instead, some are putting more effort into private tutoring, which is tax free cash in hand.

What is stopping the government from addressing this as people seek to be responding accordingly in their behaviour!

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XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:09

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:06

And that makes it better does it? Why do you think it is appropriate for people to claim benefits who don’t need them?!

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Single mums with young children can claim benefits.

What exactly is she doing wrong?

GimmieABreakOr3 · 11/05/2026 21:09

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:29

Do the mums that work 40 hours have a partner?

PP is a single mum. She can claim benefits, or get funded childcare. What would you prefer to pay?

You are pretty goady…

Whatalunatic · 11/05/2026 21:09

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really? is that necessary? what do you know of that particular poster's actual circumstances?

Life can change on a knife edge. Overnight. Hope it never happens to you.

ProudCat · 11/05/2026 21:09

I agree. I don't know why, as a tax payer, I have to subsidise private businesses by paying their employees 'in work benefits'.

If businesses paid their actual staff a living wage, rather than funnelling profits into bonuses for the big bosses and shareholders, the middle class would find themselves radically less squeezed.

I'm other words, the fact that people are basically being paid subsistence wages of how the system is currently designed to work. The fault lies with BIG business, not the 'undeserving poor' living next door. But it serves the interests of BIG business to make you think it does. Hell, they don't want you to find out who the real enemy is.

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:10

youalright · 11/05/2026 21:06

Its a privelage not everyone has.

My cousins grew up on a (very rough) council estate with a dad that was in and out of prison. They earn above minimum wage (one of them earns a great deal above minimum wage). Neither went to uni. Attitude is everything. A lot of people in this country just can’t be arsed. Well now we can’t be arsed to pay for them.

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:10

youalright · 11/05/2026 21:06

Its a privelage not everyone has.

My cousins grew up on a (very rough) council estate with a dad that was in and out of prison. They earn above minimum wage (one of them earns a great deal above minimum wage). Neither went to uni. Attitude is everything. A lot of people in this country just can’t be arsed. Well now we can’t be arsed to pay for them.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:10

GimmieABreakOr3 · 11/05/2026 21:09

You are pretty goady…

FFS, have you seen what people have been calling benefit claimants?

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 21:11

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You do realise people dont realise how bad the situation is until they get out of it.

I hope its never happened to you.

To go through so much trauma. Thank fully therapy has helped.

littleorangefox · 11/05/2026 21:11

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 21:02

And will point out got 4yr old. 2yr old and near 1yr old. I am doing my best for them

You're doing amazing. My 4 kids are all aged 6 and under and it's an adventure that's for sure! 😂

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:13

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:09

Single mums with young children can claim benefits.

What exactly is she doing wrong?

She is taking money that could be better used for more deserving causes. In case you haven’t noticed we have an ever increasing welfare bill that we can’t afford.

LaurieFairyCake · 11/05/2026 21:13

‘Generous Welfare’ 🧐🧐🧐

it really isn’t, below every other country in Western Europe.

youalright · 11/05/2026 21:14

Plugg · 11/05/2026 20:16

It’s hard to find full detail of comparable policies but this is HSBC from 10 years ago. Scroll to the bottom. 60% of salary income protection and health insurance as standard. employeebenefits.co.uk/group-risk/hsbc-implements-new-all-employee-benefits-strategy/116978.article

That was 10 years ago high street branches won't even exist in a few years. We live in very different times now

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:14

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:13

She is taking money that could be better used for more deserving causes. In case you haven’t noticed we have an ever increasing welfare bill that we can’t afford.

She is claiming what she is entitled to.
And if she did not claim it, no one would be getting more money. That is not how it works.

feellikeanalien · 11/05/2026 21:14

Plugg · 11/05/2026 20:49

Work hard at school get to uni. Work hard at uni get a job that pays more than NMW. It’s the standard plan for most people.

So who will be doing all these ever so necessary NMW jobs? Bin men, nursery workers, shop workers,care workers. The people who enable all those well paid professionals to go to work.

Not everyone is capable of going to uni and I am getting fed up of people being defined by how much they earn.

People in NMW jobs are also contributors to society.

MoreThanOnePostcardFromTheEdge · 11/05/2026 21:14

Yabu for being unable to afford a holiday on £95k household income.

I guarantee your outgoings could be cut to change that.

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 21:14

littleorangefox · 11/05/2026 21:11

You're doing amazing. My 4 kids are all aged 6 and under and it's an adventure that's for sure! 😂

Aww thank you 😊 wow youre doing amazing too! Its definitely an adventure 😅

notatinydancer · 11/05/2026 21:15

Pickledonion1999 · 11/05/2026 13:01

I think UC can be very generous for families and set to become more so with the lifting of the two child cap. This is due to the generous taper rates and work allowances. An ex collegue of mine has been solely on benefits for a while and just returning to full time work as a professional and will still be eligble to claim UC on a salary of 40k ( one child, low rent) plus child maintainence on top. However for single people or people who cannot work due to illness or disability the rates are absolutely direand i genuinely struggle to understand how people survive. The system needs an overhaul.

See I don’t understand that. My daughter on no where near 40 k one child wasn’t eligible for any UC.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:16

feellikeanalien · 11/05/2026 21:14

So who will be doing all these ever so necessary NMW jobs? Bin men, nursery workers, shop workers,care workers. The people who enable all those well paid professionals to go to work.

Not everyone is capable of going to uni and I am getting fed up of people being defined by how much they earn.

People in NMW jobs are also contributors to society.

MN hates single mums, and people on NMW.

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:16

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:14

She is claiming what she is entitled to.
And if she did not claim it, no one would be getting more money. That is not how it works.

Actually if we reduced the welfare bill we could spend it on other things. Education would be at the top of my list.

youalright · 11/05/2026 21:17

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:10

My cousins grew up on a (very rough) council estate with a dad that was in and out of prison. They earn above minimum wage (one of them earns a great deal above minimum wage). Neither went to uni. Attitude is everything. A lot of people in this country just can’t be arsed. Well now we can’t be arsed to pay for them.

Can't be arsed i missed a lot of school due to being in and out of hospital please tell me how having a positive attitude would of changed that. Like i said previously people need to check their privelage just because you got a full education not everyone does.

NoUsernameAvailableAgain · 11/05/2026 21:17

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:09

Single mums with young children can claim benefits.

What exactly is she doing wrong?

Choosing to work minimal hours and claim loads of benefits when you can actually work more is wrong.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:17

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 21:16

Actually if we reduced the welfare bill we could spend it on other things. Education would be at the top of my list.

How do you reduce the welfare bill without plunging people into poverty?

ChickenBananaBanana · 11/05/2026 21:18

I'm a full time carer for my disabled husband. Neither of us work. Trust me, if you had to fund full time inpatient care for him rather than the £83 a week carers I get it would cost you a lot more of your tax.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 21:18

NoUsernameAvailableAgain · 11/05/2026 21:17

Choosing to work minimal hours and claim loads of benefits when you can actually work more is wrong.

The system allows it. So again, what is she doing wrong?

monday1983 · 11/05/2026 21:18

EdithBond · 11/05/2026 20:48

Indeed.

People who’ve bought a home have no idea what it’s like to be a renter and need repairs. They think the landlord responds 😂

People who rent don't realise how much repairs cost if you own a property. I rented before and believe me much cheaper than owing and you can always move

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