Is it ok for men to be in the ladies loos if they need to assist a disabled wife?

[someoneelsesshoes]

Not sure if I’m unreasonable to have felt a bit strange about this.

I went to the ladies toilets in a garden centre and there was a man standing by the sinks. I immediately went to walk out as I thought I’ve mistakenly gone into the men’s. He then said sorry and said he was waiting for his wife. He was next to a zimmer frame which I assume was his wife’s.

I felt really strange about this but went into the loo as usual. I understand maybe his wife really needed help to get on/off the loo so dismissed it. She was still in the stall when I left. But when I left the loo I checked the disabled and it was open and ready to use (though maybe it was occupied when she needed it and it was an emergency).

I haven’t come across this before so not sure if we make this concession for male carers. I know disabled people need to be supported and maybe he’s the only one who can help her.

So so far we have boys under 8, disabled 10 year olds, dads with daughters and men with disabled wives, plus any man who claims he’s a woman all using the ladies. At what point do we agree it’s not actually a single sex space any more? Meanwhile the men are happy in their single sex space. Does this seem fair to women and girls? If so, why?

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As dictated by...?

Silly me. Of course. Of all the women in the country, you were selected to set the rules.

So 9 is the cut off for my son to be allowed to wet himself? Or my 4 yr old daughter because my son can't be left outside alone?

But there's no cut off for a grown man assisting a disabled woman?

And no cut off in age for a dad assisting his daughter?

Can you explain why a grown man is welcome but an autistic 9 yr old boys isn't?

It’s not fine

Men cannot be in the women’s toilets

no exceptions

What are you practically worried about? A 9 year old boy with his mum making you feel uncomfortable?! Ridiculous.

Neither are welcome. HTH 😁

Absolutely, in the sink which should not be having biohazards tipped directly into it!

read my posts. Neither are welcome

Well arent you fill of empathy for my disabilities and trauma.

I'd take the 8 year old to the ladies if the disabled toilet wasn't available. I do the same with my disabled 10 year old son.

It's far from ideal but needs must.

Lucky you don’t decide then isn’t it! Your opinion is just that.

Personally I'm ok with saying no males at all but then it needs to no males at all. My beef is because this thread has run hundreds of times about 10 yr old boys with autism in the ladies looks being inappropriate and it's fairly unanimous no older boys.

Yet grown men in the forms of dads and husbands who are carers are allowed.

So what's the real issue with disabled boys then? Because what threat do they pose

Not really. It’s the actual law

You are ridiculous.

Nobody is saying let a man stand there and watch you wee for god sake, we have cubicles don’t we.

I’d go to a chemist and get a plaster and antiseptic wipes if needed. It’s much harder to find a public loo than a chemist.

Not if the man has a disabled wife it isn’t

Im not ridiculous

And it’s the law

I'm perfectly happy with this stance as it happens. My personal 8 yr old I'll wait for a disabled toilet in basically every scenario and I'm lucky he has the bladder of a camel and the understanding to wait.

My issue is with those who are ok with adult males but not disabled boys

There is a disabled toilet

Doesn’t matter. If it’s unavailable the law says he can enter the ladies to assist his wife

Men, boys, whatever the excuses, just stay out of women’s toilets

Creepy af

no man I know would do this

Unless is very secluded public toilet and it gives negative vibes - so someone chose it on purpose to be doing evil things, it would not bother me

I think if there was a disabled toilet available this is pretty much what they’re for! Or one of the things they are very much for.