So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

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Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

As far as I am aware we've never invaded Albania.

They dont have to seek asylum in the first safe country. Thats the law. So they're not illegal.

Would you be in favour of allowing asylum seekers to work while their claim is processed?

That’s something that needs altering then!

How would employers check their background? They may have criminal records.

Agree. Anyone can come illegally and claim asylum- basically often by lying - we’ve heard the tapes of people being briefed on what to say to get asylum.

The young men coming from Africa in small boats may claim asylum and therefore technically not be illegal but we all know they are essentially economic migrants.

I’d put them into basic warehouse type accommodation, basic diet, not allow phones etc, keep them detained then use the army to fly them back to where they came from.

@FernandoSor -All foreign students to attend all classes in person, no remote learning from your uncle’s petrol station 200 miles away. Revocation of student visas and fines to educational establishments if students found to be absent.

I worked in a Russell Group University and we weren’t allowed to ask foreign students on visas to sign a register because it was unfair to single them out - and given there could be up to 500 students in some lectures, it wasn’t feasible to take a register from everyone. I had one student zoom into an online class whilst actually working in a fast food place - I’m not joking.

Yes although someone can become a UK national within 5 years of a number of criteria is met, theoretically that could be within 6 years or so of your arrival although for many that will be later.

And it was expensive!

For what it's worth, a relative of mine has posted on facebook that he voted for Starmer because a Chinese player won the snooker and he can't stand it anymore.

Not Starmer - Farage.

It was a deterrent that would have paid for itself eventually.

How does an employer check backgrounds once they have leave to remain? Its not different.

If they’ve been given leave to remain, presumably their background has already been checked?

Fix the root causes, or at least help solve the root causes. Everyone else takes their share. The way people carry on you'd think the UK were the only ones taking immigrants.

Doubtful. Once someone was sent there the U.K. continued to pay for them. Win win for Rwanda.

How? It's not as simple as it sounds. If the first safe country is, say, Turkey we still need an agreement with the Turkish govt to send people there. And given that Turkey hosts far more asylum seekers and refugees than we do they will quite reasonably say no.

Perhaps each country should have a specified quota in relation to its size etc. When that’s been reached the immigrant has to move on to the next one, hopefully not ending up in the U.K.!

This wasn't a general election , it was a council election to vote in councillors for local areas. Not all counties had a LOCAL election --- mine didn't.
Councillors are not MP's, so have no say in parliament. They have a say in what happens in your local area, not the whole country.

A general election is at least two years away. This is when you vote for who you want to run the country, not a local election.

Someone isnt barred from getting leave to remain due to criminal records although it is harder yes. It depends on the offence

Its also not that easy to have a full history and record, it relies on the countries that the person has been in before having full records, having taken biometric data etc etc. It relies on those countries having communication with the UK

I mean what is the liklihood of the UK government having sufficient confidence in the records held in Sudan, or Syria or Ethiopia for some of the people here?

Because in the uk they can disappear underground and earn a living. No ID, free no-questions asked healthcare, a thriving black / cash-in-hand economy, weak enforcement of existing laws and underfunded, under-resourced public service like the police out the immigration dept.

i live in France, it’s not easy to disappear here and still access work or healthcare. Access to healthcare is restricted to those who can show the correct papers to prove their entitlement. Working ’on the black’ is much harder as there is far stronger enforcement of tax and labour laws. And the police are, frankly, more scary and armed.

Migrants think they will be able to stay in the UK and it will be good for them. You have to dispel that belief. Migrants think that trying to go to some other countries will result in extreme unpleasantness for them. Therefore they don't even try. Those other countries then don't have to actually do or spend much protecting their borders. Thats why Rwanda isn't such a dumb idea if you can get potential migrants to think thats where they will end up, you don't then actually have to.do it.

If you want that, we'll take a lot more. We dont take the same proportion based on size as other countries.

So you want more asylum seekers to come here.

Absolutely. All
thats going to happen is that their bin collections are going to be even worse.

No matter, I plan to use the rubbish in my bin to fill in the potholes.

Ha ha ha ha everything you listed has been done for over 30 years. Do you think it worked?