So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

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Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

Asylum seekers are not illegal. Illegal immigrants are the ones overstaying visas etc. I would introduce ID, checks on where people live and do spot checks on businesses to ensure they are not employing people with no right to be in the country.

Why arent they seeking asylum in the first safe country? Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers. They have other reasons for wanting to come specifically here, not just to a safe place.

Get Mexico to pay for a wall?

The one thing that the UK bends over backwards to avoid - a biometric national ID card system.

My answer is to process people on the ground in France. Not sure how practical this is and probably the French won't allow it.

Loads do settle in the first safe country. Turkey, Egypt, Germany France etc all have many more asylum seekers than the U.K. does. Also people come here for language or because they’ve got family/friends here. If people are fleeing their homes and starting again with nothing, you can’t blame them for choosing to go to a particular place.

First, Reform has NOT won a landslide. It has won a large (but not overwhelming) number of Council seats and a couple of local councils.
Second, Reform in Parliament is still a minute party which makes a lot of noise but does (& can do) nothing.
Third, on the basis of his performance (& that of his party in local government) to date, he will do sod all in the event that he ever gets into No 10.

I don't think the issue is with illegal immigration only. Most native British people are not experts in immigration law (even many Home Office caseworkers are not experts lol) and would probably care less whether someone's paperwork has all the correct stamps on it. My own immigration history in the UK, although watertight legally, most reform voters would probably consider "illegal" and taking advantage.

Reduce the comfy life and benefits offered here. I honestly think that's the only way.

People aren't coming here for the weather, that's for sure.

Why arent they seeking asylum in the first safe country? Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers. They have other reasons for wanting to come specifically here, not just to a safe place
Typical 'its not my problem, don't give a shit if it becomes my neighbour's' attitude.

The fact that the UK is the furthest away from where most asylum seekers land doesn't mean it's lesser their responsibility to the problem.

Of course many decide to make it here. Because the closer countries are already overwhelmed (yes, news scoop, it's not just a UK issue!), and of course the language and free NHS is going to be part of their reason to keep going too!

Another option is cracking down HARD on crime.

No you can't come here and be treated well if you commit a crime.

There really is no reason why foreign criminals wouldn't want to live here as things stand currently.

Plenty of ways of discouraging them just by how we approach things internally, without having to physically stop boats etc.

If you had to flee your country would you want to live in a country where you already know people who live there, you speak the language and understand the culture or would you go somewhere where you know no one and couldn't speak the language?
There is no compulsion to seek asylum in the nearest safe country. It is also impractical. Are you saying the UK shouldn't take any asylum seekers?

A polish friend was saying to me that if people try to get into the country illegally the army use water cannons on them. They are removed if spotted on the streets. Local communities don’t tolerate the building of mosques - if any are attempted they are pulled down in the night.

Spend money (shock horror!) on training and employing far more immigration officers so that all migrants and asylum seekers entering the country can be processed quickly and either given legal status to stay and be allowed to work and contribute to the economy, or are deported back to their country of origin.

Employ enough immigration officers to check up and deal with those who overstay visas or otherwise flout their visas.

Prosecute any employers who do not carry out the correct vetting procedure to make sure they only employ people who have a right to work and prosecute employers that pay less than minimum wage and are the ones attracting all the ‘wrong’ types of immigrants.

Not as dramatic and brutal as the US ICE agents who go around rounding up anyone who isn’t white, which is what I’m sure a lot of people would love to see.

Not saying we should do any of those, just saying it’s effective

Do you understand local council elections don’t have sway over immigration policy? Is the whole of England confused right now?

It's the narrative that has to change. The UK doesn't actually take that many asylum seekers compared to other countries and immigration isn't particularly high either it is falling. Forecasts are now that we.could have negative net migration this year.
There is a reason why some political parties are obsessed with immigration. They want to give disaffected people someone to blame for their situation and people always find it easy to blame people who are different from them
What I would like someone to explain to me is how do people think their life will improve if we had zero migration?

The only way to stop the boats is to literally stop the boats, which is what we are paying the French to do, with little result!

Of course we need immigrants- controlled immigration though, not loads of young men of unknown origin.

I read a post online saying "With luck we will wake up on Friday with Nigel Farage in number 10.'
The level of ignorance about our political system amazes me.
I am beginning to think there is no hope for the UK.

But many don’t speak English, hence millions spent on interpreters and translators. Many have lived here for years and still don’t speak English. Many don’t understand the culture either eg how women should be treated!

Which would probably result in in more claims being accepted

And we all know what those reasons are!

If that is true it sounds horrendous. "Local communities don't tollerate the building of mosques - if any are attempted they are pulled down in the night"? I am really struggling to articulate quite how sick this makes me feel.

I used to teach English to foreign national prisoners, some of whom were illegal immigrants due to be deported at the end of their sentences. I was told by them more than once that they passed through Germany, The Netherlands, France, Belgium etc as there was no way for them to get work there without having the correct papers. They came to the UK because we don't check/care and they knew they'd get work somewhere in our underground economy.
This may not apply to all illegal immigrants but if we crack down on the barbers, vape shops, car washes and other businesses we get cheap deals from paying cash and turning a blind eye to what goes on behind the scenes with them, we might discourage a proportion risking their lives to arrive here illegally.