AIBU to let my daughter’s boyfriend use marked visitor parking regularly?

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NC’d as outing.

Recently moved onto a new build estate, up the road from us is three terraced houses with five parking spots in front of them. Each of the three houses have one and two are very clearly marked as visitor spots.

My DDs boyfriend visits us regularly, can vary from one night a week to 2/3 nights depending on both their shift patterns. She has been parking in one of the visitor spots.

The first of the three residents moved in last week. Yesterday one of the site managers knocked on the door and asked DD to move the car as the houses are now lived in and the resident had complained (some people / contractors park on the still empty houses). DD explained that it was visitor parking and that is was our visitor parked there. Site manager said he would need to go away and look at the plans (thought he would have done this before coming over tbf).

So AIBU to tell him to continue to park there? Legally he can, rules are visitors up to 48 hours at a time (I’ve checked the convents we signed). I would HATE someone effectively parked on my drive, outside my window etc but I would never have bought that house. Resident must have seen and signed the same plans as us?

If the resident comes over to speak to us, how would you respond?

Site plan attached.

Visitors spaces are for visitors, not for semi permanent residents. Others may need them as well, eg elderly neighbours who have carers or relatives popping in.

I had a rental property in a block of flats with a single visitor space that was continuously occupied by one resident (a tenant). Street parking was difficult, sometimes impossible. It then became very difficult for me, or trades, to visit. I assume that was the same for my neighbours. The man was so unpleasant that the management company did nothing, though they confessed to me that they really hoped he would leave.

If alternative parking is difficult are you really sure that neighbours won't need access to the space, say for an emergency plumber. If they might, they probably won't say anything but you won't be popular. If alternative parking is easy, then he should use it.

So you have 2 cars, then the boyfriend is a 3rd car? I think he needs to find somewhere else to park. I live in a new build with allocated parking. We have 1 allocated and 2 visitor spots for 6 houses. My daughter is just learning and has bought a car. She parks this elsewhere on the main road so as not to annoy neighbours.

They are obviously visitor spots for the residents of those particular houses.

If I bought one and someone elsewhere on the estate kept parking on it, I'd just leave my car permanently in the visitor spot, and leave my marked spot empty until they got the message.

It's hard to say but those spots look like they might be Visitor spots for 194-196?

How are the other visitor spots situated?

I also agree with PP who have said 3 nights a week is a semi permanent resident-a visitor generally pops in, visits and then leaves?

Think you might need to look at other parking options.

It’s also possible that the new owners were led to believe that the spaces were just for them.

If you are correct that these are basically the equivalent of on street parking (ie no restrictions, anyone can park there) then while I appreciate it’s annoying for the neighbours, I don’t think you are unreasonable to use them.
These new build estates so often have such shit parking arrangements, narrow roads, and limited driveway space that there are always going to be parking issues. It’s a compromise you make when you buy somewhere like that.

am I understanding this correctly that you have a drive sufficient for 2 cars (plus roadside outside your property) and then take up another space elsewhere on the estate for 50%of the week despite it being directly outside a house which you know to only have 1 allocated space?

In your original post you put "Recently moved onto a new build estate, up the road from us is three terraced houses with five parking spots in front of them" .... which sounds like you dont live in houses 194-196, but further down the road. Is this correct? If so then yes I think the boyfriend is out of order parking in one of these spaces for days at a time. Why isn't he parking outside your house?

Can you really not park anywhere else? Is there no on street parking or no space on your drive.

Provided it is a visitor spot for everyone I think this might be a situation where they are not technically doing anything wrong (although as others have said, a semi-permanent resident may not be classed as a visitor) but where other people will hate it and it will make the lives of others more difficult. I’d be thinking of a work around (can he not alternate which space he uses, park a few streets away and walk or take public transport/ get a lift sometimes?).

The other thing is if he’s doing shift work, is he parked in the visitor spots in the day? Because this would be a nighmare- what if the other houses need a plumber, carer, food shop etc? That’s what I’d assume visitor spots were intended to cover.

There’s visitor spots round the corner outside 200 and 187. Just ask him to park in a different one each time and that way his car will be less impactful to one set of neighbours.

Place hasn’t even been built yet and the parking wars have started. This is going to be a happy community 😂

My DDs boyfriend visits us regularly, can vary from one night a week to 2/3 nights depending on both their shift patterns. She has been parking in one of the visitor spots.

Are you saying your daughter parks in one of the visitor spots AND when her boyfriend stays, he also parks in a visitor spot? Sorry if I’ve misread but you’ve said ‘she’ here and I assumed you’re referring to your DD?

I don’t think someone living with you 3 days a week regularly is a visitor. I’d just ask him to street park wherever is easiest outside the estate and walk up.

As someone who has 2 visitor spots outside my house that are used exclusively by residents (including one who has 2 parking spaces they own, but chooses not to use one of them!) YANBU. All our houses each own one or two parking spaces that aren't allocated, they're deeded to each property. Visitor spaces are used by whoever gets there first.

The reality is that when people move into those houses they'll be treating the visitor spaces as their private parking anyway. Unless they clearly are deeded as shared spaces to those 3 houses, they're for use by anyone on the estate.

First come, first served. Cannot believe people think you are being unreasonable,

No it won’t be most council have parking standards for developments and that would include visitor spaces. My own councils is 0.49 spaces per household, so you would expect to see 1 visitor space per two houses. However thise visitor spaces can be anywhere in the development and no where near any of the many houses

Its right in front of their house. Even if you are legally allowed to park there, it will impact those residents.

I think you should do what you feel is morally right regardless of covenant technicalities.

No! I’m saying her BF uses one when he visits.

The you might want to ask mnhq to edit your op because you said she dose in it

Sorry no, mis typed. She parks on our drive. Only the visitor uses the spot.

He is not a visitor. You are misusing the spot.

He should be parking right by your house, blocking your drive if thats the only room

Why can't he block you/DD in?

I would have assumed the visitor spots are incorrectly labeled on the deeds. This is an awful set up - a visitor spot right in front of someone’s house.

this happened to me when I bought an apartment. Everyone had slightly different deeds - my neighbor’s map showed my spot as disabled parking and she paid someone to paid a disabled sign on it! Solicitors had to get involved to resolve it.

I do think it’s rude to park in the visitor spot for three nights if parking is at a premium. They are surely for people calling in for a few hours not someone who lives part time with you. But it’s a dreadful set up if that map is right

He is only there during the day if actually visiting DD, not sleeping from shift work. They both work different shifts every week, so generally he’s only here 1 or 2 separate days, but occasionally 3 separate days.

If he - as a visitor - is using the visitor spot within the rules then yes of course he can carry on using it.

On my estate there are also visitor bays right outside of some houses, I wouldn’t buy one of those tbh, having multiple people parking right outside my house would annoy me, our estate has loads of visitor parking, all saying max stay 23 hours, to prevent staying long periods. I think your daughters BF should use a space for one night only tbh

sometimes we use a visitor space if having a work man visit.