AIBU to let my daughter’s boyfriend use marked visitor parking regularly?

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NC’d as outing.

Recently moved onto a new build estate, up the road from us is three terraced houses with five parking spots in front of them. Each of the three houses have one and two are very clearly marked as visitor spots.

My DDs boyfriend visits us regularly, can vary from one night a week to 2/3 nights depending on both their shift patterns. She has been parking in one of the visitor spots.

The first of the three residents moved in last week. Yesterday one of the site managers knocked on the door and asked DD to move the car as the houses are now lived in and the resident had complained (some people / contractors park on the still empty houses). DD explained that it was visitor parking and that is was our visitor parked there. Site manager said he would need to go away and look at the plans (thought he would have done this before coming over tbf).

So AIBU to tell him to continue to park there? Legally he can, rules are visitors up to 48 hours at a time (I’ve checked the convents we signed). I would HATE someone effectively parked on my drive, outside my window etc but I would never have bought that house. Resident must have seen and signed the same plans as us?

If the resident comes over to speak to us, how would you respond?

Site plan attached.

Plus it’s literally still on the website on the site plan as some houses still for sale.

It looks to me like everyone has two spaces except for those houses where there are 5 split between 3. So they’ve got one each plus 2 to share.

don’t be unreasonable

On our new build estate, the visitor spots aren't for anyone and everyone, each one is on the deeds of a numbered house. I suspect that is the case here which is why they've complained. Is there some free road space he can use instead?

Why would visitors spaces be on the deeds of an individual house? Are you saying there could be a situation where a house has one resident space and its own dedicated visitor space - so the management company might be going ‘I’m sorry Mrs Waylor-Timpey but you have contravened the rules parking your resident vehicle in your visitor spot, you simply must keep it free otherwise it would be unfair on your visitors, and no you can’t choose to have no visitors and use the space’

This is exactly what I thought 😂

This ^^

Not really relevant to the OP as it’s now been clarified that they are still visitor bays but just wanted to add, you can’t rely on what you’re told when you buy as things can change and plans can change further down the line.

Our plot was on the plans as having 2 spaces and then bizarrely all the (masses of) space in an L shape was then a ‘shared drive’ - which makes no sense as it’s also a dead end so who would share it? Our solicitor negotiated that we got all of the land, it’s not shared and we have an 8 car driveway. If the people who moved in first looked at their plans it wouldn’t show this.

There was also supposed to be a way from my house through to next door but only on foot - both we and next door pushed against that and what was supposed to be open is fenced off - again this wouldn’t be on the plans the first people had.

Things on new estates frequently change from one phase to the next, it can be difficult to keep up!

A convent is a place Nuns live. Suspect you mean a covenant.

You are correct I do, and already been pointed out multiple times. Thanks 😅

I also think those visitor spots are clearly for those three houses to share. YABU OP

Really not the point, but this is one of the things that makes me grateful to live in London (one of the small number of things!) - there’s never any issue with parking where we are. The estate has about 60 houses and flats, built about 40 years ago, loads of parking and most of the spaces are permanently empty, so children go out there and play as there’s no cars that they might hit with their footballs! Having said that, the surrounding streets of beautiful old houses have constant parking wars, so maybe it’s just a thing in lower-earning estates where no one can afford to run a car 😂

Just get him to park outside plot 200 which is less impact

I live in terraced houses like this on a new build estate and because the terraced houses only get one parking space each those visitors parking spaces are for them to use. Its selfish for you to use them when you have a 2 car driveway. You need to find space for your daughter to park on the road and if you cant you should have thought of that before moving in! Its something I certainly considered well whilst house hunting.

I don’t understand how it’s selfish to use a visitor spot for a visitor?

But that doesn't make sense. If they were only for those houses there would be something specific in the deeds, those house owners would pay for those spaces and they wouldn't be visitor spaces any more! They would be allocated to a house, with one house only having one space and therefore being less expensive than the other properties with 2.

(I’m involved in development) - I’m 99% certain that those visitor spaces will be for the whole estate (and any other visitor spaces) - they have to go somewhere, but you try to put them in nooks and crannies rather than outside someone’s front door - as it’ll lead to conflict. Brace yourself for when the whole estate is occupied and you’ve 3 bed houses where everyone is working (inc kids).. planning authority rules I’m afraid.

Me too, if the cottages and for people that have downsized age demographically, they may rely on carers or kids visiting?

It will become a first come first served scenario soon enough as more residents move in so I wouldn’t worry about it as the likelihood of your DD or her BF being able to park there may become a rare thing as others start to utilise the spaces!

This is exactly what I thought, every other house has two spaces apart from these ones so I would have assumed that they were the second space for each of these houses not just for random people.

Then they would be numbered as those houses and sold (and priced accordingly as having two spaces).

A visitor in a visitor’s spot.

No debate really as I’m sure the site manager will confirm!

Do make sure they confirm to the people who complained too, as well as reiterating the 48hr rule.

A visitor is someone who comes to your house occasionally for an hour or two or a random overnight, every week for several nights is not a visitor.