To think Starmer will be gone by the end of Friday? Or will it be Monday evening?

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Whoever you are voting for today, it's probably not Labour - they might loose 2,000 seats.

How long exactly will it be before he resigns?

I recall that you viewed Rayner’s demise as impossible.

Nah, it will be at least a fortnight! 😆

Great results for Wales and Scotland. ¡No pasarán! , Reform.🖕

Awful for England. But on the upside Reform hasn't gained control of many councils, has it?

It’s incredible isn’t it?

It’s all about Starmer. Not the electorate, not his colleagues, not the economy.

Nope, if Starmer wants to cling on, then by golly, that’s what he is going to do.

What a monumental narcissist.

Hello LL - we missed you.

How was work?

I don’t think I did and she was still an MP the last time I looked. No demise there.

i don’t think he has moved them to the right at all.

welfare reform - very little change
Vat on schools fees
Renters Right Act with no checks given to how back logged the courts are
Inheirtance Tax on Farms. If farming land needs to be paid to pay inheirtance tax who do we think is likely to buy the land? Chinese, rich Russians and then guess what. Our food prices will go up.

No demise?

Sacked as Deputy PM (the mind boggles that she was ever made DPM in the first place), caught fiddling tax (scooped by the DT).

What odd values you have.

I suspect it is both.

Starmer derangement syndrome is a very real affliction.

She resigned and her tax affairs have still to be determined. I’ve pointed this out to you ad nauseum.

Changing leaders in Labour is like moving deckchairs on the Titanic. A new face, oh good oh, but same shit policies and no dynamism.

Whether folk like it or not Labour will have to be BOLD, courageous, unpopular with some but approved of by many in order to keep going.

The party looks a bit pale, stale and male to me! I'm not sure what woman I'd like in charge either, so there is that too. I'll keep thinking.

Dynamism, get behind the people, give them hope, have a vision, communicate it, and be realistic about outcomes. Slowly slowly catchee monkey, the message is important, and the person saying it is even more important still.

She was forced out. Her tax affairs are doubtless a mess, much like her private life.

Hey, question - do you think she has ruled herself out of running?

Agree.

Rayner is awful. Using her disabled sons fund to pay the deposit on a property 100’s of miles away whilst claiming she was nesting’ with her ex.

So she used her son’s fund to pay the deposit on her new place, moved 300 miles away and is now shacked up with someone who was fired from the LP.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH HAVING SOMEONE WITH THESE MORALS RUNNING THE COUNTRY?

Using a solicitor in the middle of nowhere to under the conveyancing and then trying to blame them. Surely she would have access to people who could give her a good recommendation bearing in mind her situation was complex.

Great post - only the few remaining hardcore Labour apologists would disagree with you.

What is also clear is that whatever shreds of democratic legitimacy a Labour government (which was elected with the support of less than 20% of the electorate) may once have had have now utterly disappeared.

The country has recovered its senses after the moment of suicidal madness in July 2024 and comprehensively turned its back on a government which has caused so much damage to our economy, society and international reputation in such a short period of time.

Starmer must resign and we must have a GE.

Why is the investigation taking so long re AR’s affairs. She either followed the rules or didn’t (whilst she was Housing Minister)

Good question. Why indeed?

Ping an e-mail over to HMRC and ask them?

You're very funny.

We had three changes of PM under the last government without a general election, remember? You can stamp your feet and say 'I want', but it won't do you a bit of good.

On another note - how was your day?

It’s not really the pp or anyone here. It’ll be down to Labour. Starmer is their liability, changing leader could make that issue go away.

Blossom - I never thought I would agree with you!

I think what happened is that her situation re housing got so complex she lost track of which was her main residence and what the rules were. At one point wasn’t she claiming to have three houses?

Can you imagine if one of us got mixed up like this? She would have had access to the brightest most experienced legal minds in the UK yet she chose to use a solicitor out in the middle of nowhere..the owner of the company came out swinging when she tried to throw them under the bus. The owner was 80 years old. Good for her!

The thing is - she was Housing Minister at the time. It’s all very fishy to me.

Have you ever tried to contact HMRC?

Labour are the issue. Not Starmer. When he tried to get welfare reform through he was voted down by his own MP’s. Welfare reform needs a massive shake up .

People are bleating that work should pay for their lifestyles and they shouldn’t rely on benefits. Well, what if someone has made poor decisions about having children, picked the wrong men to have them with. Doesn’t have many qualifications. Suffers from anxiety…

Are we going to pay for all those decisions that person made?