To think Starmer will be gone by the end of Friday? Or will it be Monday evening?

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Whoever you are voting for today, it's probably not Labour - they might loose 2,000 seats.

How long exactly will it be before he resigns?

It's not just about the local elections. It's also about the political climate up to the local elections.

He has barely survived the Epstein scandal and has clung on by the skin of his teeth.

A historically significant defeat in the local elections could be enough to push the party over the edge in terms of replacing him.

grow up

Labour have a huge majority in Westminster so Starmer is going nowhere - is anyone expecting Trump to stand down if the Republicans get trounced in the US midterms?

He will never resign.

Self-awareness and dignity are not in his DNA.

Country before party, my arse.

I feel sorry for the good local councillors (like mine, who actually gets shit done) who may well lose their seats because of dissatisfaction at national level. Although I can see why people are using this as a protest vote, even though I won't be.

Please give us the examples of all the other PMs under pressure who have resigned after the tipping point of poor mid-parliament local election results. We'll wait.

What about the devolved elections?

Are they supposed to experience a ‘swing’, too?

FYI

Incumbent governments usually lose 20% of the seats being defended

That happens every local election.

However this year Labour is predicted to lose 80%

This is NOT a usual year.

If they lose more than 1500 seats, I think he'll try to talk the back benchers round over the weekend, but if he's facing a widespread mutiny, he'll go on Monday.

All depends on the results tonight.

This is a completely different scenario though.

Starmer gets his power from the MPs and party behind him. The minute those MPs think he isn't the best chance of winning the next election he is gone. This is why the probability in the UK of a party ousting a PM is far higher than a President being removed in the US.

The Senate and the House could probably only remove Trump via impeachment, which requires a supermajority to pass in the senate, so very unlikely although maybe possible this time.

Second FYI - Starmer's resignation has been planned for the last six months.

That's why things that have happened that would usually kill off a leader - like Mandelson - have not.

Labour have used Starmer as a shield they knew would suck up the shit - which was great when they KNEW he would be leaving in May as the results have been predicted to be a blood bath for six months plus.

Third and final FYI

More of a prediction.

Three way leadership election. Rayner, Streeting, Burnham (maybe)

Streeting wins

Calls an election in early 27, maybe late 26.

Why do they call an election when they have such a majority?

I keep being asked.....

Because a Government must seem to have a mandate from the voting public or they lack any form of authority and the risk of civil unrest becomes very high.

When the government lose 80% of their seats in an election, they have no mandate, and a General Election will be called way before 2029.

Planned by who? Any evidence or is that more wishful thinking on your part?

Wes Streeting would be a much better choice than Angela Rayner.

Has she paid the extra £40,000 stamp duty yet?

I think that's far too soon. I think internationally we look like a very unstable country given all the Tory leadership changes so I think he will stay as long as he can.

I can't remember the process in the Labour Party. If Starmer announced he was standing down wouldn't the Deputy Leader of the party Lucy Walker(??) become acting leader until a long drawn out ballot was held? That would be really destabilising. I think he could announce his intention to stand down when a new leader is elected at conference in September. More smooth transition.

My view - she has some other shit buried, and has been compelled to disclose it to HMRC under duress. Hence the delay.

She also appears to have ruled herself out of the No.1 slot (praise the Lord), probably because of aforesaid buried shit.

No because HMRC is still dragging its heels deciding whether or not she owes it. Seven months and counting now.

I am calling bollocks on that.

It’s fact, not opinion.

Sorry, but this is arrant nonsense. The last lot changed Prime Minister three times with an ever shrinking majority. So they had no mandate either, and yet they stayed on.

The period is a statement of fact.

HMRC dragging their heels on whether she owes it or not, is not a statement of fact, however much you wish it.

I have a question: where did you get that amazing crystal ball please? I could really use one to pick some lottery numbers.

I have criticised Starmer on here many times in recent months, but unless we can be guaranteed Streeting or Mahmood for PM, I do not want him to go.

Angela Rayner and Ed Miliband (both very popular with the party) are not popular with voters and would be a disaster for our teetering economy. The Labour Party needs to decide if it wants to be in government as it doesn't seem to be in touch with the majority of voters at all.

The government have a mandate from the voting public, it's called their majority in Parliament - you know democracy and all that stuff. Pretty much every sitting government does badly in local and by elections and no Prime Minister has resigned over that to date.

Interesting that you think civil unrest would increase - why's that? Or by civil unrest do you just mean that now the weather is getting better the Stella fuelled flagshaggers will have time on their hands when it's not raining?