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You fool, you idiot!

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coulditbeme2323 · 07/05/2026 09:24

There were a couple of threads on MN yesterday about what posters spend their money on. One was about a slice of cheesecake in London and the other the cost of a toastie in a Garden Centre.

Neither items were cheap, but I thought there was a lot of rude comments such as "only idiots pay that" or "you fool."

Now MN is for debate and there is nothing wrong with disagreeing, but is name calling really fair just because people choose to spend their money on different things.

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BleedinglyObvious · 07/05/2026 14:21

Buscobel · 07/05/2026 14:08

If you are going on a family day out and you have several children, the cost of buying a meal for everyone, plus sundries during the day, may well be prohibitive, whereas taking a packed lunch for everyone, whilst possibly inconvenient, may mean the difference between having a family day out occasionally, or not.

Definitely. You pay through the nose for either a tiny portion of food or a massive bucket of ice with pop in it, when they only want a few sips or would be happy with something small to nibble. You also get to choose not be limited to what's on offer.

Bertiebiscuit · 07/05/2026 14:21

It's all about context. If I'm in a fabulous venue, say the bar in the Renaissance hotel near King's Cross which is ravishing, with great service for say my birthday or at xmas, i will happily stump up for a really big bill. But that's a rarity. Most days when i go somewhere I'm in the flask and packed lunch brigade, i just can't and won't stump up nearly a fiver for a mediocre coffee in a dull chain coffee place like *bucks, costalot etc etc. But hey, life is short, and quite often you get what you pay for. That said, Gregg's or even Maccydees coffee will do in an emergency 😂

AprilMizzel · 07/05/2026 14:24

Buscobel · 07/05/2026 14:08

If you are going on a family day out and you have several children, the cost of buying a meal for everyone, plus sundries during the day, may well be prohibitive, whereas taking a packed lunch for everyone, whilst possibly inconvenient, may mean the difference between having a family day out occasionally, or not.

Sometimes with no car and lots of stuff to carry with kids we found was actually better not to take food or very least too much food and eat out other times it was better to take food.

Sometime with weather it can be hard to find somewhere to eat and it's nice to pop into a warm dry building for a bit.

The people best able to make that judgement whether packed lunch or not is best - are most likely going adults doing said trip who have to live with the consquences of said choice and are likely weighing up their priorties.

ChillingWithMySnowmies · 07/05/2026 14:26

i'm middle ground.. i'm taking sandwiches and a drink.. but its likely a Tesco Meal Deal, lol.

Damned if i'm making them, but i'm also averse to paying £20 for a sandwich.

74username74 · 07/05/2026 14:29

LadyMacbethWasFierce · 07/05/2026 09:46

I do still come on here (joined in 2011 when my youngest was newborn) as I find human life and interactions fascinating.

But a previous poster has it right that it’s a bear pit. And 2 things surprised me hugely as I noted the change - the increase in casual insults and the general lack of empathy.

I posted on 1 January this year after the unexpected death of my beloved daughter 2 months previously. I had been surprised and a bit unsettled that some friends had messaged me wishing me “a happy new year” and I asked if I was unreasonable to feel surprised about that. Although the responses I had were largely kind, I was taken aback by the number of people who thought that I should be grateful to have been remembered at all and I could not expect a tailored message just for me. One poster even suggested that my friends might have thought I was “getting over it now” (I can’t be sure that was the phrase they used it might havd been “feeling better” or something similar) given we had been out of the country for Christmas. Despite my having explained that this was just because we could not face Christmas in the UK and that I had been having suicidal thoughts.

Sorry, op, I digress. But I agree with you. It’s madness on here at times. With some quite startling bluntness, rudeness and lack of sensitivity. BUT. And it’s a big but, before anyone wades in, I choose to have a look see several times a week and even to post occasionally. It’s still a fascinating place. And there is kindness to be had too. It’s just a bit harder to find than maybe it was 14 years ago. But I think that might be a reflection of life in general.

I remember that thread. Made me sad.

Sensiblesal · 07/05/2026 14:36

Did we find out where to buy the £19 cheesecake though?

a fool & their money are easily parted. In seriousness, there is such a culture that due to lots of people struggling that anyone that does have a splurge or buys things that are expensive, they should not advertise it cos they should think of the people who can’t afford it. We live in a very strange society on in that way. People can spend their money on what they want, no one wants to pay £19 for cheesecake but if its the best ever? Maybe 😂

ChocolateAddictAlways · 07/05/2026 14:38

Limth · 07/05/2026 09:31

We all have different priorities but when it comes to money, people get very weird and personal.

Things that I think are foolish to spend money on, others would see as absolute essentials. And vice versa.

There's nowt so queer as folk.

Agreed.

People are quick to point and say things are frivolous or a waste of money but if the mortage/bills are paid and you're not getting into debt then hey if it makes you smile in these grim times, go and buy the weird looking pink and green matcha drink or insert food equivalent

JollyDenimSeal · 07/05/2026 14:42

emuloc · 07/05/2026 09:47

How is taking your own packed lunch, which has exactly what the person wants in it, on a plane, indicative of not being able to relax while on holiday?

I didn't think you were allowed to take your own sandwiches on a plane and eat them - due to people potentially having nut or other allergies

Stanislas · 07/05/2026 14:44

I’m always grateful when M&S opened up in Newcastle airport. I used to buy the day before when travelling . I have the coffee tea on board which is pretty horrid with the packets of milk DH always manages to spray around. Jet2 and easyJet food is dreadful. I won’t make my own sarnies because flying and getting to airports is stressful enough and I will have emptied the fridge and bread bin in a structured way knowing I’m flying. If I’m flying long distance I’m hoping I’ll have booked business. People saying fool etc. is it because of the saying a fool and his money are soon parted? I grew up hearing that from parents who were very unextravagent.

dizzydizzydizzy · 07/05/2026 14:44

Totally agree. I enjoy debate and am perfectly happy for people to disagree with me. I am interested in other people’s points of view. I sometimes do change my opinion as a result. However, I really can’t stand it when the basis of someone’s argument is that I am naive. Give me facts and evidence, don’t just tell me I am an idiot.

NovemberMorn · 07/05/2026 15:01

JollyDenimSeal · 07/05/2026 14:42

I didn't think you were allowed to take your own sandwiches on a plane and eat them - due to people potentially having nut or other allergies

You can take any sandwich or snack on board you choose.
I usually pick up a 'Meal Deal' from WH Smith on every flight I go on. Sandwich, drink and crisps for about £7...and their BLT sandwiches are very nice indeed.

Flamingojune · 07/05/2026 15:02

I dont understand why people buy expensive handbags, beauty products, designer clothes and fancy cars but hey, each to their own

coulditbeme2323 · 07/05/2026 15:03

Flamingojune · 07/05/2026 15:02

I dont understand why people buy expensive handbags, beauty products, designer clothes and fancy cars but hey, each to their own

Because they are great!

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NovemberMorn · 07/05/2026 15:05

Flamingojune · 07/05/2026 15:02

I dont understand why people buy expensive handbags, beauty products, designer clothes and fancy cars but hey, each to their own

Exactly, I eat lunch out, or just coffee and cake out, almost every day....I don't consider it a waste of money because I enjoy it.

I don't visit beauty parlors, nail bars, or even the hairdressers very often, because I dont enjoy doing that.

Each to their own.

Retro12 · 07/05/2026 15:32

Error404FucksNotFound · 07/05/2026 10:34

Is "the flask and sandwich brigade" not just equally sneery about people who perhaps cant afford to buy lunch on a day out and take sandwiches because its cheaper?
People who dont have much money also like a day out and if taking their own food and drink saves them that 20 or 30 quid that means they can afford to take their kids out they dont deserve to be sneered at.

I think that quote comes after being called a fool and an idiot, quite mild in comparison

eggandonion · 07/05/2026 15:47

Im suffering from an earworm of the bit in Fairytale of New York which is a bit more abusive than mumsnet .

momager1 · 07/05/2026 15:49

latetothefisting · 07/05/2026 13:58

Right, but the posters are chatting about sandwiches etc. i.e a fairly substantial meal. Surely you don't want or need a sandwich or hot cooked meal at 8am?

Id have a banana and a brunch bar or something and then a nice lunch after you land at 11am - in which case my point still stands, the choice is between spending 50p bringing those items from home or £4 buying them on the plane - personally not a delicious "treat" that justifies the markup.

I get what you are saying...but I will be up at 3:15 at the latest. I cannot eat at that time. But by 8 I will have been up 5 hours. I will need some food that is not just a banana (love them, cannot eat one on a plane due to my issues)

Flamingojune · 07/05/2026 15:51

coulditbeme2323 · 07/05/2026 15:03

Because they are great!

But so is really nice cheese cake

fabstraction · 07/05/2026 16:10

If someone's essentially bragging about spending what they know is a lot for something, I don't feel too sorry for them if someone says they're foolish to do so. It's not a polite reaction, but they went into the situation knowing that they were being a bit controversial. You'll probably also have someone on the thread who is struggling to afford the basics, and they may feel vicious at such flippant and flagrant waste.

You can spend your money as you please, but if you go online and tell people about it, you can't demand that they're respectful in how they express their opinion of your choices.

emuloc · 07/05/2026 16:49

JollyDenimSeal · 07/05/2026 14:42

I didn't think you were allowed to take your own sandwiches on a plane and eat them - due to people potentially having nut or other allergies

I believe that you can take food on board now.

coulditbeme2323 · 07/05/2026 16:50

fabstraction · 07/05/2026 16:10

If someone's essentially bragging about spending what they know is a lot for something, I don't feel too sorry for them if someone says they're foolish to do so. It's not a polite reaction, but they went into the situation knowing that they were being a bit controversial. You'll probably also have someone on the thread who is struggling to afford the basics, and they may feel vicious at such flippant and flagrant waste.

You can spend your money as you please, but if you go online and tell people about it, you can't demand that they're respectful in how they express their opinion of your choices.

Edited

Is it controversial?

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emuloc · 07/05/2026 16:59

UniquePinkSwan · 07/05/2026 10:15

I spend £80 a month on bottled water. I genuinely do not care what people think about that. Not everyone is struggling

I only drink bottled water at home. I am looking at getting a filter jug, I just have not done so yet. I doubt anybody would care, or should, about how I spend my money.

MilkyLeonard · 07/05/2026 17:00

Anything related to money on MN seems to attract extreme, and sometimes tone deaf, points of view. People who like to spend are judged as alarmingly profligate because they threw away a pair of laddered tights instead of learning to darn to save a couple of quid, and people struggling for money are condemned as tight if they’re not willing to chuck it about like confetti.

In real life, most people understand that there are people who are better/worse off than they are and that they budget accordingly, rather than based on someone else’s financial situation.

Retro12 · 07/05/2026 17:01

fabstraction · 07/05/2026 16:10

If someone's essentially bragging about spending what they know is a lot for something, I don't feel too sorry for them if someone says they're foolish to do so. It's not a polite reaction, but they went into the situation knowing that they were being a bit controversial. You'll probably also have someone on the thread who is struggling to afford the basics, and they may feel vicious at such flippant and flagrant waste.

You can spend your money as you please, but if you go online and tell people about it, you can't demand that they're respectful in how they express their opinion of your choices.

Edited

Same stands for frugal people being know as the sandwich and flask brigade! 😆

eggandonion · 07/05/2026 17:17

I love darning. Any sort of mending really. And I like a cup of instant coffee with a sandwich at home.
I also like a coffee shop barrista coffee and a nice carrot cake.