To think Kemi Badenoch is starting to talk an increasing amount of Sense? Part 2

[itsnotallaboutyouyousee]

Continuing this fascinating thread. I think it ended prematurely. We were just getting into the swing of things...

Part 1 here: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5525758-to-think-kemi-badenoch-is-starting-to-talk-an-increasing-amount-of-sense?reply=152116138&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It is. If it was soon, Farage would likely win the most seats and Badenoch would have to make some very difficult decisions.

I am off to do my civic duty.🤞my vote helps keep the racists out.

6 cuts in interest rates
Deal with France to return small boat migrants.
5 million more nhs appointments
Brought in investment from China
Tackled fuel poverty
Dealt effectively with trump over tarifs and the Iran fiasco.

Labour had a hard task ahead of them in the aftermath of the Brexit debacle an covid. The economy is actually showing some signs of recovery now. The performance of FTSE 100 is evidence for this.

HTH

It probably won’t, help that is. Bit late for Labour lines now.

A false premise.

But for context, your comments on Polanski and the Greens, please.

I'm not Jewish.

I have absolutely zero concerns that I, or a loved one, may be a victim of a Jewish terrorist attack here in the UK.

There is, of course, a real risk to me and mine of harm by Muslim extremism . A sizeable risk given the number of attacks in recent years.

I have Muslim, Sikh and Hindu neighbours. I am the ethnic minority in our street. They are all lovely people as individuals.

But I don't trust Islam, I fear it and I'd like to stop the rise in the % of the UK population being Muslim.

I'll be voting Conservative.

You voted for Reform, did you not? I seem to remember you bragging about sending your postal vote off.

Monetary policy is about to start tightening - do you want to take credit for IR hikes?
How many illegal migrants have been returned?
Chinese investment - numbers please. And thanks to comment on Starmer greenlighting their embassy.
Fuel poverty? How has he tackled it?
Iran was a function of Starmer’s weakness more than anything deliberate.

Your comment on the Greens, if you dare.

Ps nice edit.

I can't believe that anyone would highlight the return deal with France as a success. It's an expensive way to achieve fuck all.

I am not voting Green. Harangue someone who is.

Eta: thank you 😉

You are not voting Reform either, and yet you have strong views on them.

Noted.

Noted? In your little black book? Are you wearing your matching uniform?

You do have a very inflated sense of your own importance.😂

Right. I really must go and vote now.

Wellll Labour share policies and then completely ignore them and do the opposite of what they promised so swings and roundabouts.

Best of luck.

Look forward to circling back later - once the results are in.

Hurry back!

Scottish independence referendums do not concern English people, except if they live in Scotland. You are talking nonsense

Not sure what point you think you are making?

Labour soundbites at this stage won’t do the HTH part of your post. The losses are happening today.

Oh you silly billy. On the contrary. Some of the tax we pay in England goes straight to benefit Scotland. We should have a say in whether we want our taxes spent on Scotland or not.

It's not a thing I'm that interested in tbh. I was just saying what would be fair, given someone had commented on it.

I am very impressed by her. And I hated the Bullingdon Tories. She is slowly growing in stature, gaining ground, earning respect, winning people over, making the best of her underdog status.

If she keeps this way, she can make the Conservatives an essential part of whatever is gonna happen at the next GE, or better. She has a lot of potential and I think she would do a great job as a PM to get us out of the state we re in.

Next government will have to bring massive changes, fix a lot of messes, find a new way forward for Britain, reconcile people even. And I think a black woman coming from immigration, with real life experience, a no bs approach to things, talking her mind straight and clear, determined enough to make these happen, could re-galvanise this country.

And put a glorious end to the incorrect tropes of the left that your identity matters more than your actions (which is why they cannot see or respect her agency and abilities), and that all people coming from immigration should be inherently progressive or left-leaning (and she doesn’t fit that expectation, which angers them, hence a viciousness especially aimed at her as shown on these threads … because of her skin colour, textbook racism)

I don’t know how today’s elections will play up, I suppose a bit like the current vibe, not going to win, but it won’t be that bad either.

The Greens may do ok today but that won’t last on a national level until the next GE. They maxed out their appeal already. The core leftie brigade is already won over, the Muslim vote too, hence the big noise and some electoral results, putting Labour on its knees, but i don’t think they re going to convince many new ppl outside these demographics. It’s gonna go downhill for them and rightfully so.

Scotland is a net beneficiary from London.

What an absurd comment.

Surely anyone who is likely to be impacted by the outcome should be entitled to vote?
The leavers may find they are more sucessful if they do allow the English to vote!

As a net total, how many migrants gave been returned?

I wouldnt be 100% convinced about that appt figure. Labour also have a lovely way of massaging nhs figures. I had just started work for the nhs when Labour were last in power, and I remember the way we had to adjust reporting figures or be fined, discharge outpatients before ready to make wait lists look shorter, cut appointment times to increase apparent number - for example a 40 min appt had to go down as 4 x 10 min appointments.

Now we are back to the quick discharge and re referral system to cut apparent wait lists, let's see how many more of the above we are implementing before this Parliament is over?

Tackled fuel poverty? When we are all paying high amounts for petrol, which they could counteract by cutting tax on fuel but they don't.

You have obviously forgotten the revenue from oil and gas that was drained from the Scottish economy to bail out England over many years. The "economic miracle" that Margaret Thatcher claimed credit for was the outcome.

The economic miracle that was spaffed away on tax cuts instead of investing in the country. I look at Norway and weep.