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Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:13

Muslims suffer the most hate crime.

Badenoch strongly supported sending asylum seekers to Rwanda which was not only vile but useless and a big waste of money.

She has no policies and contributed handsomely to the chronic ineptitude of the Tories this country had to suffer for 14 years. When the Tories sink even lower tomorrow I sincerely hope they get rid of her asap.

HoldMyWine · 06/05/2026 22:14

BIWI · 06/05/2026 22:00

Keir, please. You may not like him, but have some respect and get his name right.

I didn’t say I didn’t like him. I do like him, I think he did a great job heading up the CPS, o think he’s an honourable man. I just don’t think he’s a great politician. Sorry if my spelling offends you. I can never spell Kieth either.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:14

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2026 22:11

Somebody who thinks maternity leave and pay has “gone too far” isn’t remotely interested in women’s rights.

Exactly this. Getting rid of statutory maternity pay would be a catastrophe for women. Who on earth thinks statutory maternity pay isn’t right- oh that would be Badenoch.

No way should any woman vote for her.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:15

BIWI · 06/05/2026 22:00

Keir, please. You may not like him, but have some respect and get his name right.

Keir needs to start respecting women. Step 1. The way he talks to KB in the HoC is atrocious (just an example, if him saying some women have penises isn't enough to convince you)

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WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:15

Opposition parties don't have policies. Their job is to oppose the govt's policies.
They will all release a manifesto of policies they would like to enact in the lead up to the next general election.

WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:15

Thanks for thread 2 op :-)

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:16

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:07

Rishi started the Rwanda plan - which was actually working. Starmer stopped it when it was all in place, taxes had paid for it. Foolish chap. Not for the first time, nor the last.

And wrt 'Islamophobia' - as HermioneWeasley said '

Islamophobia” is a term made up by the Muslim brotherhood to deflect legitimate questioning of Islamic extremism. For example 75% of Mi5’s watch list are Muslim.

All the attacks on British Jews have been carried out by Muslims.

Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs used allegations of racism to keep operating.
Cousin marriage is causing material strain on the NHS in parts of the UK. We need to be able to discuss these things.

Middle Eastern countries are baffled as to why we tolerate extremism.

if you think Israel is more of a problem than Iran, Russia, China or the Taliban then you come across as motivated by anti semitism.'

Don’t be ridiculous. You can call out the vile acts and atrocities that Israel is carrying out without being antisemitic.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:17

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:15

Keir needs to start respecting women. Step 1. The way he talks to KB in the HoC is atrocious (just an example, if him saying some women have penises isn't enough to convince you)

Edited

At least he believes in statutory maternity pay.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:18

WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:15

Opposition parties don't have policies. Their job is to oppose the govt's policies.
They will all release a manifesto of policies they would like to enact in the lead up to the next general election.

Who says? You?

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:19

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:16

Don’t be ridiculous. You can call out the vile acts and atrocities that Israel is carrying out without being antisemitic.

One can call out the vile acts perpetrated by hundreds (if not thousands) of muslims, across the world over many years, without being called 'islamophobic'

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WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:20

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:18

Who says? You?

Eh?

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:22

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:19

One can call out the vile acts perpetrated by hundreds (if not thousands) of muslims, across the world over many years, without being called 'islamophobic'

Nobody is, hate crime stats focus on incidents , views and attitudes to Muslims in this country.

WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:24

Statistics show that jews are more likely to be a victim of hate crime than Muslims in the UK.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:25

WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:24

Statistics show that jews are more likely to be a victim of hate crime than Muslims in the UK.

Offences targeting Muslims accounted for 45% of all police-recorded religious hate crimes, making them the most targeted religious group.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:26

WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:24

Statistics show that jews are more likely to be a victim of hate crime than Muslims in the UK.

Yes. One assumes proportionality isn't considered by @Caro7457 . No surprises there,

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WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:27

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:25

Offences targeting Muslims accounted for 45% of all police-recorded religious hate crimes, making them the most targeted religious group.

Per capita, it is much higher for jews.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:27

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:26

Yes. One assumes proportionality isn't considered by @Caro7457 . No surprises there,

It’s not a competition. We should feel equal
compassion for both communities .

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 06/05/2026 22:28

Poor Kemi. I feel a bit sorry for her tbh.

MaCheCazzo · 06/05/2026 22:29

She is - or at least was at the time - pro-Brexit so I don't care if she can fart Sweet Caroline whilst eating two Curly Wurly bars - she can get to fuck and take all her swivel-eyed Brexity friends with her.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:32

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 06/05/2026 22:28

Poor Kemi. I feel a bit sorry for her tbh.

I don’t,the things she said re autism were enough to illustrate what kind of person she is let alone Rwanda, maternity pay , the bullying allegations etc. Who wants somebody like that leading the country.Oh wait she had a go under Truss! As I said they need a new leader and they need one fast .

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:32

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:27

It’s not a competition. We should feel equal
compassion for both communities .

Oh I see - now you've understood how incorrect your assertion was, you're watering it down to lets be kind to everybody. Got ya, loud and clear.

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Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:34

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:32

Oh I see - now you've understood how incorrect your assertion was, you're watering it down to lets be kind to everybody. Got ya, loud and clear.

We should be empathetic for both. Anybody dismissing the huge amount of hate crime the Muslim community has to put up with is deeply concerning and not somebody fit to be in power.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:35

MaCheCazzo · 06/05/2026 22:29

She is - or at least was at the time - pro-Brexit so I don't care if she can fart Sweet Caroline whilst eating two Curly Wurly bars - she can get to fuck and take all her swivel-eyed Brexity friends with her.

And this!

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 06/05/2026 22:36

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2026 22:11

Somebody who thinks maternity leave and pay has “gone too far” isn’t remotely interested in women’s rights.

Exactly, can't be said enough!

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:37

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:34

We should be empathetic for both. Anybody dismissing the huge amount of hate crime the Muslim community has to put up with is deeply concerning and not somebody fit to be in power.

Anyone minimising the Jewish hate crimes going on in the UK right now, is deeply concerning.

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