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Why is no one talking about Farage's £5 million gift/bribe?

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Firetreev · 06/05/2026 16:45

The right wing press had kittens about Starmer receiving some free glasses, yet are shtum about Farage receiving £5 million in the twelve months prior to him becoming an MP. No one gives someone £5 million pounds. Farage is bought and paid for by a shifty, Thailand based billionaire. Why don't voters and the media care?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/29/revealed-nigel-farage-was-given-undisclosed-5m-by-crypto-billionaire-in-2024?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Exclusive: Nigel Farage was given undisclosed £5m by crypto billionaire in 2024

Reform leader changed his mind about standing as MP after gift from Thai-based crypto tycoon Christopher Harborne

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/29/revealed-nigel-farage-was-given-undisclosed-5m-by-crypto-billionaire-in-2024?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 09:45

IonianNerveGrip · 06/07/2026 09:07

Farage is now making out it’s an establishment plot and he’s going to sue the Sunday times (like last time Nige? Oh no you didn’t did you - just blamed the Russians 🙄)

That'll be entertaining!

Ah, the Donald Trump playbook. Let me guess £10,000,000,000 ?

Let's hope it goes as well.

Somersetbaker · 06/07/2026 09:56

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 09:45

Ah, the Donald Trump playbook. Let me guess £10,000,000,000 ?

Let's hope it goes as well.

He would stand more chance of winning if they had said "he's not a grifter who will do anything for cash", the best defence against libel, the comment was true and even if it was libelous the person doesn't have a reputation that could be damaged.

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 10:46

Somersetbaker · 06/07/2026 09:56

He would stand more chance of winning if they had said "he's not a grifter who will do anything for cash", the best defence against libel, the comment was true and even if it was libelous the person doesn't have a reputation that could be damaged.

I think most on this thread realise that wot Nige sez and wot Nige duz are two very different beasts.

But it's fun watching Nige find out in real time.

Up till now, it's all been "NIgel says" that the media burns into the public imagination. Very little (if anything) on the follow up "doing" bit.

But now they seem rather unreasonably fixated on what Nigel done, and are less interested in what he says.

Clavinova · 06/07/2026 11:15

IonianNerveGrip · 06/07/2026 09:07

Farage is now making out it’s an establishment plot and he’s going to sue the Sunday times (like last time Nige? Oh no you didn’t did you - just blamed the Russians 🙄)

That'll be entertaining!

He did successfully sue the Sunday Times/Times Newspapers
in 2008;

https://www.carter-ruck.com/news/nigel-farage-sunday-times/

TopPocketFind · 06/07/2026 11:18

Farage knows the rules and if all is above board , he shouldn't mind the scrutiny.

IonianNerveGrip · 06/07/2026 11:26

Clavinova · 06/07/2026 11:15

He did successfully sue the Sunday Times/Times Newspapers
in 2008;

https://www.carter-ruck.com/news/nigel-farage-sunday-times/

Yes, I remember it well. Which means we already know he's not afraid of Rupert Murdoch, an odious man in his own right, and we can be confident Farage will take similar steps this time if the ST have told any porkies. As I said, entertaining!

IonianNerveGrip · 06/07/2026 11:33

Hopefully enough that he won't feel deterred from taking action here for fear of costs.

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 11:37

Clavinova · 06/07/2026 11:15

He did successfully sue the Sunday Times/Times Newspapers
in 2008;

https://www.carter-ruck.com/news/nigel-farage-sunday-times/

And England won the world cup in 1966.

Your go.

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 11:41

I have a vague memory that people who count (not us plebs) can require a court to make the plaintiff lodge a bond for potential costs should the case be decided against them.

So in this case News International could ask the court to make Farage lodge (say £1,000,000) before the case is heard. And the source of that £1,000,000 would need to be 100% transparent.

Maybe some legal experts could help ? The reason I have it in my head is that I stopped someone suing previously in a high profile case.

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 11:47

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 11:41

I have a vague memory that people who count (not us plebs) can require a court to make the plaintiff lodge a bond for potential costs should the case be decided against them.

So in this case News International could ask the court to make Farage lodge (say £1,000,000) before the case is heard. And the source of that £1,000,000 would need to be 100% transparent.

Maybe some legal experts could help ? The reason I have it in my head is that I stopped someone suing previously in a high profile case.

How I learned to stop worrying and love AI 😀(Note the part about asset evasion. )

I have a vague memory that people who count (not us plebs) can require a court to make the plaintiff lodge a bond for potential costs should the case be decided against them.

Your memory is completely accurate, and the legal mechanism you are thinking of is called a Security for Costs order. 1]
In English civil litigation (and similar common law jurisdictions), the general rule is that the "loser pays" the winner's legal costs. If a defendant is worried that a claimant has "nothing to lose" or will disappear if they lose the case, the defendant can ask the court to step in. 1, 2, 3]
The court can then order the claimant to put up a financial guarantee—such as paying cash into court, providing a bank guarantee, or lodging a bond—before they are allowed to proceed with the lawsuit. 1]

How the Process Works
To successfully get a Security for Costs order, the defendant must pass a strict legal framework governed by Part 25 of the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR): 1, 2]

1. Proving the "Grounds" (The Gateways)
A defendant cannot get this order simply because they want one. They must prove at least one specific condition applies to the claimant, such as: 1, 2, 3]
Insolvency/Impecuniosity: The claimant is a company, and there is clear evidence it will not have the funds to pay the defendant's costs if it loses. 1, 2]
Outside the Jurisdiction: The claimant lives or is based outside of the UK (making it incredibly hard and expensive to enforce a debt against them later). 1, 2]
Asset Hiding/Evasion: The claimant has changed their address or moved their assets around specifically to avoid paying up if they lose. src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/1CGMmdWt-JY?start=95" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen> 1]
Nominal Claimant: The person suing is just a front or a "nominal" claimant suing for someone else's financial benefit. src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/1CGMmdWt-JY?start=95" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen> 1]

2. The Court’s Discretion
Even if a ground is met, the judge will only grant the order if it is "just to do so". The court carefully balances protecting the defendant with ensuring they do not "stifle" a genuine claim. If an individual claimant is poor but has a great case, courts are highly reluctant to block them from justice unless there is evidence of dishonesty or bad faith. 1, 2, 3]

3. The Consequence of Failing to Comply
If the court orders the claimant to lodge the bond or cash by a certain deadline and they fail to do so, the lawsuit is stayed (paused) or struck out entirely. The case is effectively dead in the water. 1, 2]

Who Actually Uses This?
While your joke about "people who count" hits on a tactical truth—large corporations, wealthy individuals, and institutional defendants use this heavily to defend against speculative lawsuits—any defendant can technically apply for it if the grounds are met. It is widely considered one of the most powerful tactical weapons a defendant has to shut down risky or vexatious claims early. 1, 2, 3]
If you are looking into a specific legal scenario, let me know:
Is the claimant an individual or a limited company?
Are they based in the UK or abroad?
Has a formal claim already been issued in court? 1, 2, 3]
I can give you more details on how a court might view the situation.

The Three-stages of Security for Costs - Chan Neill Solicitors LLP

LITIGATION Security for costs is a discretionary application, typically made by a defendant, seeking assurance that the claimant can cover legal expenses if their claim fails, with the court considering grounds, discretion, and quantum in a three-stage...

https://www.cnsolicitors.com/the-three-stages-of-security-for-costs/

Clavinova · 06/07/2026 12:25

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 11:37

And England won the world cup in 1966.

Your go.

Farage's legal team managed to get a full on-air apology from BBC Newsnight last month for misquoting him - plus the Newsnight episode was removed from BBC iPlayer and BBC Sounds.

TopPocketFind · 06/07/2026 12:36

This investigation is not about being misquoted.

And as Trump is finding out, requests for financial evidence, diary and phone logs can be made

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 12:56

Clavinova · 06/07/2026 12:25

Farage's legal team managed to get a full on-air apology from BBC Newsnight last month for misquoting him - plus the Newsnight episode was removed from BBC iPlayer and BBC Sounds.

A week is a long time in politics.

Clavinova · 06/07/2026 13:12

BIossomtoes · 06/07/2026 09:30

It was hilarious to see Jenrick label The Times as a Labour supporting media outlet. What planet are they on?

Did Robert Jenrick say The Times or The Sunday Times?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj504619e63o

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer speaking on stage at a campaign event

Sunday Times newspaper endorses Labour Party

The paper says the Tories had 'forfeited the right to govern' and Britain needs a 'radical reset'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj504619e63o

TopPocketFind · 06/07/2026 13:17

The Murdoch press saw what was coming at the GE.

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 14:08

Clavinova · 06/07/2026 13:12

Did Robert Jenrick say The Times or The Sunday Times?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj504619e63o

2 year old news story.

HRTQueen · 06/07/2026 14:09

BIossomtoes · 06/07/2026 09:30

It was hilarious to see Jenrick label The Times as a Labour supporting media outlet. What planet are they on?

What ever gets them headlines

I have no doubt Jenrick will be taking over or as leader of Reform sometime soon

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 14:12

HRTQueen · 06/07/2026 14:09

What ever gets them headlines

I have no doubt Jenrick will be taking over or as leader of Reform sometime soon

Only if Nigel says so. There is no other way.

HRTQueen · 06/07/2026 14:19

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 14:12

Only if Nigel says so. There is no other way.

I have always thought Farage has no interest in being PM

he is an agitator but he wants to continue to upset democracy for now but I think he will step aside it will be sold as a sob story how the establishment is the real enemy (all sounds very familar) and he just can't fight against them

Brownwithnopezazz · 06/07/2026 14:25

If Nigel gets removed from the running it paves the way for Rupert, who is a considerably more cogent force than Our Nige. Be careful what you wish for.

Theolittle · 06/07/2026 14:29

HRTQueen · 06/07/2026 14:19

I have always thought Farage has no interest in being PM

he is an agitator but he wants to continue to upset democracy for now but I think he will step aside it will be sold as a sob story how the establishment is the real enemy (all sounds very familar) and he just can't fight against them

I agree. His actions would be forgivable if he truly wanted to make the UK better for the people he sells his populist agenda too, but I think more than any other politician he’s just loving his ego being stroked and lining his pockets. I think he knows himself that he can’t fix the massively complex problems that the UK has, he would be terrified of the backlash if he actually had power. Bit like Boris in the moments after the Brexit win, when everyone else scarpered and he realised he had to do something.

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 15:21

HRTQueen · 06/07/2026 14:19

I have always thought Farage has no interest in being PM

he is an agitator but he wants to continue to upset democracy for now but I think he will step aside it will be sold as a sob story how the establishment is the real enemy (all sounds very familar) and he just can't fight against them

Regardless of his Prime Ministerial ambitions, or otherwise, Reform is a limited company with Nigel as chairman and "party" leader. No one else has enough voting rights (if any) to change that.

He could sell the brand party though. Maybe all of this pantomime is crafty Nigel whipping up enough speculation to drive the asking price up.

BIossomtoes · 06/07/2026 17:14

Who’d buy it? Its only assets are its voters who would likely desert it if Farage was gone.

SerendipityJane · 06/07/2026 17:24

BIossomtoes · 06/07/2026 17:14

Who’d buy it? Its only assets are its voters who would likely desert it if Farage was gone.

Have you seen "The Producers" ?