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AIBU to think this Green Party response raises antisemitism concerns?

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Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 06:23

Reported today that Rachel Millward, the Green Party co-deputy leader, has shared a conspiracy theory about the Golders Green attack in which two Jewish men were stabbed.

It emerged the Muslim Greens, a group of party activists, chatted on a private WhatsApp group over the weekend about launching a campaign to highlight the alleged failure to report Ishmael Hussein, the third victim of the April 29 stabbings. There is no suggestion that this idea has the backing of Mr Hussein.

The private group chat, which included Mothin Ali, the Green Party’s other co-deputy leader, suggested the “racist double standard” in the Government’s handling of the attack also needed to be challenged.

The Golders Green stabbings are the latest in a spate of attacks on the British Jewish community. Last week, Essa Suleiman was charged with the attempted murder of Moshi Shine, 76, and 34-year-old Shloime Rand.

Media outlets reported that he was also charged with the attempted murder of Mr Hussein in Southwark, south London, earlier on the morning of April 29

Ms Millward shared a post from the NewsCord account that claimed Mr Hussein had been “erased from headlines to suit a weaponised, desperate narrative”.
The Greens’ deputy leader commented: “How can this be? Three attempted murders and only two reported?”

NewsCord is an AI-generated news aggregator and campaigning platform set up after the October 7 attacks to challenge the “Western media” and how it was “justifying and manufacturing consent for Israel’s war”.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/05/green-party-anti-semitism-local-election-sabine-mairey/

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SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 16:14

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 14:29

Yet if they don't distance themselves from being perceived as antisemitic, they may be unelectable by the General Election.

Quite the conundrum.

You'd think they'd learn from Corbyn's disastrous leadership of Labour. And yet some of Corbyn's most loyal followers from that period have recently joined the Greens instead of Your Party.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 16:14

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 16:10

While I agree with the rest of your post I don't agree with this paragraph:
Another example of why would be the Times, very vocal about how bad ZP is but also published a cartoon of him that is genuinely antisemitic. Noone accidentally caricatures a Jewish man with a nose like that.
I looked again at that cartoon today. It didn't strike me as being antisemitic. I am particularly sensitive to such cartoons as I am Jewish and have a rather prominent nose myself! It was Zack's dreadful teeth that drew my attention.

I have to admit I struggled to see the antisemitism in it.

Owen Jones on the other hand described the nose in the cartoon as "grotesquely hooked"... I have no comment to make about Mr Jones or his commitment to opposing antisemitism.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 16:20

Tekknonan · 06/05/2026 15:30

There seems to be quite a propaganda war going on to deem any negative comments about the current Israeli government and negative comments about extreme Zionism (this is, for example, leading to attacks on Palestinian villages on the West Bank, attacks on Palestinian children trying to go to school, attacks on the Christian community) antisemitic.

It is not antisemitic to challenge and criticise what the current Israeli government is doing, and the apparent sanctioning of what amounts to Zionist terrorism on the West Bank. It is antisemitic to use this to attack Jews, to assume Jews support such beliefs and actions. Many are very unhappy about it and some join the protests.

There also seems to be concerted attacks against Zack Polanski and the Green Party, using the 'antisemitism' slur that destroyed Corbyn. They can't quite get away with calling Zack Polanski antisemitic, but they dig up any error they can, and pick on any expression of disapproval of the current Israeli government as 'antisemitism.'

I don't agree with the current Israeli Government but then again I don't agree with the American Government or many other foreign governments either.

I'm more than happy to call Polanski 'antisemitic'. There are other Jews who are self hating Jews like him, mainly anti Zionist ones, I grant you, but to deny their fellow Jews a country of their own in which they are not constantly attacked by Iranian backed proxies, is antisemitic.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 16:26

moofolk · 06/05/2026 15:54

So three people were stabbed. Two were Jewish and one was Muslim.

The Muslim victim is barely mentioned in the media leading people to see the attack as antisemitic when it probably isn’t.

The attacker appears to be totally unhinged and psychotic, and the events are obviously traumatic for the victims (yes, even the Muslim one), and their families).

If you are aware of all these facts, I don’t understand why you see criticism of the reporting, or the attack itself, as antisemitic.

I read of three men being attacked on the same day on multiple news sources. The first man attacked was a muslim acquaintance of the terrorist who then made his way to a Jewish area (the largest in the UK) and violently stabbed two Jewish men.
This was an antisemitic attack. That is a fact.
If you can't see that, I can't help you.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 16:40

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 16:26

I read of three men being attacked on the same day on multiple news sources. The first man attacked was a muslim acquaintance of the terrorist who then made his way to a Jewish area (the largest in the UK) and violently stabbed two Jewish men.
This was an antisemitic attack. That is a fact.
If you can't see that, I can't help you.

I don't think some people would accept it was an antisemitic attack unless the knife man had been wearing an "I hate Jews" t shirt and shouting Heil Hitler. Even then they'd have probably called him an anti Zionist.

IdaGlossop · 06/05/2026 16:42

tripleginandtonic · 06/05/2026 06:33

Surely all 3 attacks should have been reported?

They were.

moofolk · 06/05/2026 16:45

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Tekknonan · 06/05/2026 16:52

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 16:10

While I agree with the rest of your post I don't agree with this paragraph:
Another example of why would be the Times, very vocal about how bad ZP is but also published a cartoon of him that is genuinely antisemitic. Noone accidentally caricatures a Jewish man with a nose like that.
I looked again at that cartoon today. It didn't strike me as being antisemitic. I am particularly sensitive to such cartoons as I am Jewish and have a rather prominent nose myself! It was Zack's dreadful teeth that drew my attention.

Just look at the antisemitic drawings used by the Nazis to denigrate Jews. They are very, very similar to the depiction of Zack Polanski.

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 16:55

Tekknonan · 06/05/2026 16:52

Just look at the antisemitic drawings used by the Nazis to denigrate Jews. They are very, very similar to the depiction of Zack Polanski.

Why, were they depicted with awful teeth too?

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Tekknonan · 06/05/2026 16:52

Just look at the antisemitic drawings used by the Nazis to denigrate Jews. They are very, very similar to the depiction of Zack Polanski.

Actually they were far worse than the one in the Times.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 17:11

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 16:40

I don't think some people would accept it was an antisemitic attack unless the knife man had been wearing an "I hate Jews" t shirt and shouting Heil Hitler. Even then they'd have probably called him an anti Zionist.

I agree, some people can never accept what is right in front of them. Today's antisemite is synonymous with the term anti Zionist. And roll on Friday when these threads about Polanski will die down and we'll be on to the next thing!

BackToLurk · 06/05/2026 17:13

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Another issue is that the Islamists carry out what any decent person can see as atrocities, and claim their actions to be by and for all Muslim people.
This fuels actual Islamophobia . Don’t blame Tommy Robinson for this, blame
Islamists.

How does that sound to you?

(I wouldn’t personally completely equate Israeli government action with terrorism and you idea of Israelis as colonialists is problematic, but as you’ve decided on this angle to excuse racism, let’s go with it)

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 17:15

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Racist rubbish.

moofolk · 06/05/2026 18:08

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BackToLurk · 06/05/2026 18:22

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Nice try. You equate it with terrorism (as you confirm here), therefore I've used your position (not mine) in another example - Islamophobia. I'm guessing you would be perfectly comfortable, given your position on Israel with someone expressing the view that the blame for any rise in Islamophobia lies with Islamists and that no individual, or indeed political party, could possibly have any part to play. That's your position. Own it.

BackToLurk · 06/05/2026 18:24

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Why do you think there shouldn't be a Jewish state?

Iwantcollarbones · 06/05/2026 18:28

In America, when a loon shoot’s up a school, they always lead with how many people at the school were shot. The fact that they killed their families before heading to the school is always an aside.

People complaining over this reporting are looking for conspiracy theories to suit their own narratives.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 18:30

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Oh yes all the many Jewish people you pretend to know who conveniently think just like you do!

hazelnutvanillalatte · 06/05/2026 18:33

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 16:01

Where do you believe this propaganda war is coming from?

I haven't seen anything about criticism of "extreme Zionism" being equated with antisemitism? Would you be able to provide examples? I've seen many many negative comments about the Israeli government though, and rightfully they haven't been deemed antisemitic. Anyone is free to criticise any government.

Actually you know what I have seen? People denigrating Zionists when they really mean Jews and thinking nobody can crack their cunning secret code. Other people trying to create a false dichotomy between being Jewish and being Zionist (the majority belief among Jews in a safe homeland for an oppressed people) and claiming that Zionism is racism. I think the Green party tried to pass a motion claiming that? People demanding that Jews state opposition to the nation of Israel so they can be deemed "good Jews". And loads and loads of racist comments and stereotyping about Jews. Loads of it.

Exactly. Imagine stating an entire country should be dismantled and demanding people with an ancestral link denounce that country, all its culture and history, and accept the majority of the population banished or killed. Israel is not perfect, no country is, and many criticise the current government, but Israel has been turned into a one dimensional, evil, negative caricature that must be destroyed - and we have seen this before, again and again.

Letamumsleep · 06/05/2026 18:33

100% on the Greens side here.

The lies in the media are concerning. Fuelling the idea that there are huge threats to the Jewish community by altering the narrative completely. Saying an attacked building was a synagogue when it was a mosque…not calling this out is a reminder of the understanding of source material and what you learn in GCSE history!

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 18:38

Letamumsleep · 06/05/2026 18:33

100% on the Greens side here.

The lies in the media are concerning. Fuelling the idea that there are huge threats to the Jewish community by altering the narrative completely. Saying an attacked building was a synagogue when it was a mosque…not calling this out is a reminder of the understanding of source material and what you learn in GCSE history!

What lies in the media are you on about? There is no 'fuelling that there are huge threats to the Jewish community'. IT IS A FACT.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 18:48

Letamumsleep · 06/05/2026 18:33

100% on the Greens side here.

The lies in the media are concerning. Fuelling the idea that there are huge threats to the Jewish community by altering the narrative completely. Saying an attacked building was a synagogue when it was a mosque…not calling this out is a reminder of the understanding of source material and what you learn in GCSE history!

Did you take GCSE History?

dairydebris · 06/05/2026 18:48

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You're saying every Jewish person you know agrees that those who think anti-zionism is antisemitic are actually being antisemitic for thinking that?

I am... quite impressed by the... shit I don't even know what to call it...

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 20:36

dairydebris · 06/05/2026 18:48

You're saying every Jewish person you know agrees that those who think anti-zionism is antisemitic are actually being antisemitic for thinking that?

I am... quite impressed by the... shit I don't even know what to call it...

Lol, my thread took quite a turn there.

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