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AIBU to think this Green Party response raises antisemitism concerns?

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Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 06:23

Reported today that Rachel Millward, the Green Party co-deputy leader, has shared a conspiracy theory about the Golders Green attack in which two Jewish men were stabbed.

It emerged the Muslim Greens, a group of party activists, chatted on a private WhatsApp group over the weekend about launching a campaign to highlight the alleged failure to report Ishmael Hussein, the third victim of the April 29 stabbings. There is no suggestion that this idea has the backing of Mr Hussein.

The private group chat, which included Mothin Ali, the Green Party’s other co-deputy leader, suggested the “racist double standard” in the Government’s handling of the attack also needed to be challenged.

The Golders Green stabbings are the latest in a spate of attacks on the British Jewish community. Last week, Essa Suleiman was charged with the attempted murder of Moshi Shine, 76, and 34-year-old Shloime Rand.

Media outlets reported that he was also charged with the attempted murder of Mr Hussein in Southwark, south London, earlier on the morning of April 29

Ms Millward shared a post from the NewsCord account that claimed Mr Hussein had been “erased from headlines to suit a weaponised, desperate narrative”.
The Greens’ deputy leader commented: “How can this be? Three attempted murders and only two reported?”

NewsCord is an AI-generated news aggregator and campaigning platform set up after the October 7 attacks to challenge the “Western media” and how it was “justifying and manufacturing consent for Israel’s war”.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/05/green-party-anti-semitism-local-election-sabine-mairey/

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ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 08:20

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:11

That’s not what I’ve said at all. Do you do this a lot? Read things and then put whatever meaning you want onto it, in order to come to antisemitism as a conclusion?

Terribly racist thing for you to say.

TeenagersAngst · 06/05/2026 08:21

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:01

Perhaps it’s because people are tired of being labelled as antisemitic because they criticise Israel?

There have been four or five attacks, all of which are absolutely horrendous. But now the nation is being painted as some iteration of 1940s Germany, that everyone is walking around a Nazi. It’s baffling.

Jewish people sought safety here in the 1940s from the Nazis. They are now leaving the UK because they no longer feel safe.

You seem to be fine with that?

BackToLurk · 06/05/2026 08:22

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:16

My point is that the media rhetoric at the moment is very damaging, and things like this (ignoring the third victim) allow for conspiracy theories and tropes to be spread about.

They weren’t ignored. When the attacks were first taking place there was no reason to connect the first assault. Once the link had been made they were mentioned, which is how we know about them. This is all very clear from the Met Police statement. In addition, random attacks on strangers, particularly with a racist motive, always attract more coverage than attacks between acquaintances.

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 06/05/2026 08:22

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:03

Everyone is. He isn’t antisemitic, for fucks sake. He raised a perfectly valid point. He is being smeared because he is anti-Israel.

So why does his party keep picking antisemitic candidates?

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 08:23

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:16

so now anyone you disagree with is wasting your time. Interesting, very interesting. You’re not actually capable of having a proper discussion about this, you just ask mindless questions in an attempt to look intelligent.

Stop obfuscating. You asked a really stupid question in a disingenuous way. That is wasting everyone's time.

Winederlust · 06/05/2026 08:24

Plasticdreams · 06/05/2026 07:13

The title and every other part of the article states 2 Jewish men and no other mention. WEIRD.

Because it's a report about anti-semitism.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 06/05/2026 08:26

Green voters have traditionally voted for a very personal and one dimensional reason. Eco policies. Or a strong character like Caroline Lucas. Well meaning but narrow and of course, at times, a protest vote. Like the Reform party to the right, the Greens are now home to the disaffected left. This means their character has changed and they are not the rather benign and somewhat reasonable calm party of old. They have seen that the “far” left isn’t represented in the Labour Party so it’s hello to the Greens and it’s easy to gain control of a minor party if you mobilise well organised activists.

Radio 5 just said 30 Green candidates are being investigated for anti semitism. That’s a lot but many naive students and others won’t care because they see it as a normal viewpoint.

HRTQueen · 06/05/2026 08:26

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:10

But he doesn’t. You just don’t like what he’s saying.

Yes he does

he played into last week which he has backtracked on

and the previous week with his perceived threat statement he knew exactly how that would go down

and being critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitism in most people’s opinions it’s not about that it’s about who he is happy to reach out to to gain votes

the left has long had a problem with antisemitism and voters that are very driven by their feelings they had a safe home under Corbyn, who caused immense damage to the Labour party and now its Polanski who is doing excatly the same for the Greens

EdgyNavyHiker · 06/05/2026 08:29

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:58

Nobody is implying either of those things.

I’ll raise another point for you then - there was a former synagogue that was attacked. Former being the key word here - it had been disused since 2020 and there have been attempts from a Muslim organisation to purchase it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/05/fire-former-synagogue-tower-hamlets-east-london

This is being reported as a hate crime - why? Is it not more likely that this is just mindless vandalism?

Did you even read the article? There have been a spate of arson attacks on Jewish sites recently and it was vandalised last year with antisemitic slogans to of course they’re investigating the possibility that it was motivated by antisemitism. Or do you think the fact that is used to be a synagogue is a coincidence?

Wildflowergalore · 06/05/2026 08:37

So if the guy in Finsbury attacked a white Brit in argument before travelling to drive into muslims near mosque, it would also not be racially motivated terrorism?
Imagine a man attacking women at women's rally, it wouldn't be misogynistic attack if he attacked a friend before in other part of town then?
So essentially people just need to attack someone else and voila, savong themselves from racially motivated terror offence. Ok.

The fact that people cannot differentiate between the two different crimes happening on same day is bit worrying even though it was explained everywhere over and over.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 08:43

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 06:29

How many more of these threads are there going to be?

You don't have to read them, or comment. It's not compulsory to do so.

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 08:44

Wildflowergalore · 06/05/2026 08:37

So if the guy in Finsbury attacked a white Brit in argument before travelling to drive into muslims near mosque, it would also not be racially motivated terrorism?
Imagine a man attacking women at women's rally, it wouldn't be misogynistic attack if he attacked a friend before in other part of town then?
So essentially people just need to attack someone else and voila, savong themselves from racially motivated terror offence. Ok.

The fact that people cannot differentiate between the two different crimes happening on same day is bit worrying even though it was explained everywhere over and over.

Exactly, put like that shows the ridiculousness of the argument.

Another example is school shooters in the US. If an attacker kills a family member before going to a school & shooting lots of children, does that mean the media wouldn’t put most emphasis on it being a school shooting attack?

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SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 08:45

CheeseyOnionPie · 06/05/2026 06:36

I didn’t see or hear anything reported about the first man who was stabbed, only the two Jewish men.

All should have been reported on equally.

They were all reported extensively. The first attack was on a Muslim man who the attacker knew personally and who tried to stop the attacker from going out to harm anybody else.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 06/05/2026 08:50

This is about the Green Party response, not logistics of the attacker.

Swiftie1878 · 06/05/2026 08:51

Wildflowergalore · 06/05/2026 08:37

So if the guy in Finsbury attacked a white Brit in argument before travelling to drive into muslims near mosque, it would also not be racially motivated terrorism?
Imagine a man attacking women at women's rally, it wouldn't be misogynistic attack if he attacked a friend before in other part of town then?
So essentially people just need to attack someone else and voila, savong themselves from racially motivated terror offence. Ok.

The fact that people cannot differentiate between the two different crimes happening on same day is bit worrying even though it was explained everywhere over and over.

I don’t think that’s the point being made.
It’s more that the location of a crime doesn’t immediately render it a racial or hate crime.
A burglary in Golders Green isn’t automatically an attack against Jewish people, for example.
The criminal’s intent is key. I don’t think we’ve heard about motive yet, but this knife wielding madman certainly appears to have targeted Jews.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 08:52

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:12

He’s Jewish.

did you have anything to say when an anti semitic caricature was published?

In name only. A case of 'I'm Jewish so of course I can't be antisemitic.'

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 08:59

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 07:34

The cartoon is not antisemitic in my opinion as the nose is not out of proportion to his actual nose. You would really need to post a copy of the cartoon if you want a general consensus of what people on this thread feel about it, I can only give my opinion on it.

Just checked out the .Times cartoon - it's not an anti semitic portrayal at all. In fact more prominence is given to Zack's teeth than his nose.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 09:02

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 06/05/2026 07:46

I’m no fan of the Greens but they’re not wrong here.

How are the Greens 'not wrong here'?

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 09:06

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:58

Nobody is implying either of those things.

I’ll raise another point for you then - there was a former synagogue that was attacked. Former being the key word here - it had been disused since 2020 and there have been attempts from a Muslim organisation to purchase it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/05/fire-former-synagogue-tower-hamlets-east-london

This is being reported as a hate crime - why? Is it not more likely that this is just mindless vandalism?

Doubtful that it was 'mindless vandalism' when currently attacks on Jewish premises in London are rife. So yes, it is correct to report it as a hate crime.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 09:08

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:01

Perhaps it’s because people are tired of being labelled as antisemitic because they criticise Israel?

There have been four or five attacks, all of which are absolutely horrendous. But now the nation is being painted as some iteration of 1940s Germany, that everyone is walking around a Nazi. It’s baffling.

My mother grew up in Germany in the 1920s and early 1930s. The anti Jewish attacks here in the UK ARE reminiscent of what German Jews suffered 100 years ago.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 06/05/2026 09:14

HRTQueen · 06/05/2026 08:26

Yes he does

he played into last week which he has backtracked on

and the previous week with his perceived threat statement he knew exactly how that would go down

and being critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitism in most people’s opinions it’s not about that it’s about who he is happy to reach out to to gain votes

the left has long had a problem with antisemitism and voters that are very driven by their feelings they had a safe home under Corbyn, who caused immense damage to the Labour party and now its Polanski who is doing excatly the same for the Greens

Well said @HRTQueen

Hoardasurass · 06/05/2026 09:37

EamonnFyre · 06/05/2026 06:31

Doesn’t it strike you as odd that the third attack has been brushed under the carpet though?

But it hasn't, it was reported on the day and in every news report from Thursday onwards.
The fact that the 1st victim was a friend of 20+ years makes it a personal dispute that happened 2+ hours before the terrorist attack on 2 visibly Jewish men in a Jewish area that the terrorist specifically travelled to.
These two separate attacks had different motives and unfortunately a knife attacks after a personal dispute is extremely common and rarely make the local let alone national news. This 1 has mainly because of the terrorist attack by the same person later that day. Terrorist attacks always make the news, so its understandable that the 2 Jewish men who were stabbed in a terrorist attack are getting more headlines than the 1 friend is, its just the way the news cycle works and not some grand conspiracy.

What I do find concerning is the absolute determination from the green party and certain sections of the public to paint this as anything but an antisemitic terrorist attack and shift the public discourse away from the true victims ie the Jewish men and onto the perpetrator painting him as a victim instead.
We saw this 1st with ZP posting outright lies and misrepresentations of the attackers takedown and arrest in an attempt to make a terrorist into a victim, and even had claims that it couldn'tbe terrorismor antisemitism as he was delusional, completely ignoring the fact that even if he was delusional (and theres no evidence of it) he could still be an antisemitic terrorist, along with claiming that he is tge victim of both everyday racism and institutional racism again with zero evidence for either claim. When ZP was forced to climb down and apologise they shifted to a duel tactic of claiming police interference in the upcoming election when MR was forced to speak out against ZPs lies and remind him of his legal duty as a leader of a political party not to intentionally spread lies and racial divisions. At the same time as falsely claiming that the 1st victim is being ignored because him being a Muslim proves it wasn't antisemitism, when this clearly isn't the case as both have been reported and they were separate attacks for 2 very different reasons.
Through all of this we keep getting the claims that islamaphobia is worse and misrepresenting hate crime stats to claim that its more of a problem than antisemitism when clearly Muslims get less hate per capita than jews do. The antisemitism tropes that Parliament and the press are controlled by Jews and thats why this is getting so much press.

The sad truth is antisemitism has become so normalised in certain sectors of society and parties like the greens that they are happy to openly display it and now that the majority of the uk are sitting up and taking notice we are saying enough is enough we need to start dealing with this they are getting scared because consequences are coming their way. We have seen the start of this with 2 green party candidates being arrested for their antisemitic tweets and ZP and the greens dropping in the polls.
If your sympathy is with the perpetrator rather than the innocent victims ask yourself why

Plasticdreams · 06/05/2026 09:45

Please watch this reel from Jewish people who live in London who march for Palestine. You are being lied to by the media!

Hoardasurass · 06/05/2026 09:51

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:22

I’m afraid it is.

Again I ask - what did you think of the actually antisemitic cartoon of Zach Polanski that was published? You know, the Jewish man you’re accusing of being antisemitic because he’s calling out the massive hypocrisy in British media?

Can you tell me where this cartoon was published and when so I can look at it and then say what I think of it as i haven't seen it so cant comment on it other than a general nobody should be posting antisemitic charcuterie of any Jewish person

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