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AIBU to think this Green Party response raises antisemitism concerns?

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Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 06:23

Reported today that Rachel Millward, the Green Party co-deputy leader, has shared a conspiracy theory about the Golders Green attack in which two Jewish men were stabbed.

It emerged the Muslim Greens, a group of party activists, chatted on a private WhatsApp group over the weekend about launching a campaign to highlight the alleged failure to report Ishmael Hussein, the third victim of the April 29 stabbings. There is no suggestion that this idea has the backing of Mr Hussein.

The private group chat, which included Mothin Ali, the Green Party’s other co-deputy leader, suggested the “racist double standard” in the Government’s handling of the attack also needed to be challenged.

The Golders Green stabbings are the latest in a spate of attacks on the British Jewish community. Last week, Essa Suleiman was charged with the attempted murder of Moshi Shine, 76, and 34-year-old Shloime Rand.

Media outlets reported that he was also charged with the attempted murder of Mr Hussein in Southwark, south London, earlier on the morning of April 29

Ms Millward shared a post from the NewsCord account that claimed Mr Hussein had been “erased from headlines to suit a weaponised, desperate narrative”.
The Greens’ deputy leader commented: “How can this be? Three attempted murders and only two reported?”

NewsCord is an AI-generated news aggregator and campaigning platform set up after the October 7 attacks to challenge the “Western media” and how it was “justifying and manufacturing consent for Israel’s war”.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/05/green-party-anti-semitism-local-election-sabine-mairey/

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ForWittyTealOP · 07/05/2026 08:40

moofolk · 07/05/2026 06:37

you keep telling yourself that 🤣

I don't need to tell myself anything. I prefer to look at the facts.

Your ignorance and arrogance is so embarrassing for you.

dairydebris · 07/05/2026 09:09

moofolk · 07/05/2026 07:16

Did you also support apartheid in South Africa?

What you've done here is avoid answering my question relating to what you said by asking me a totally unrelated question.

I'll answer anyway. No. I didn't support Apartheid in SA.

Now return the courtesy and answer mine? I've added again below-

"I'd be interested to hear why you think support of Israel is support for racism?

Do you believe every single Israeli is a racist?

Wouldn't that be a bit of a negative sweeping generalization? Isn't a negative sweeping generalization what racism is?"

BackToLurk · 07/05/2026 09:16

SunnyAfternoonToday · 07/05/2026 08:30

I'm still waiting for that poster to answer the relevant question.

Feels like it’s going to be a long wait.

OneNimbleDenimCat · 07/05/2026 10:53

Skinnysaluki · 07/05/2026 06:44

Zack Polanski is Jewish.
He is not the party leader who has made hissing noises at Jewish classmates in his youth or told people that he believes Hitler was right.
Yet apparently he is the antisemite leading an antisemitic party, and Farage is just fine and dandy.
Talk about through the looking glass.

He has a deputy leader who praised the October 7th attacks.

ForWittyTealOP · 07/05/2026 11:06

OneNimbleDenimCat · 07/05/2026 10:53

He has a deputy leader who praised the October 7th attacks.

Yep. Nothing to see there.

Also he's gay. Yet there's no condemnation of Hamas from his antisemitic colleagues. I can't really understand why Mr Polanski wants to lead a party with so many members/candidates who support those who oppose his very existence as a gay, Jewish person.

EasternStandard · 07/05/2026 11:08

OneNimbleDenimCat · 07/05/2026 10:53

He has a deputy leader who praised the October 7th attacks.

@Skinnysalukidoes this concern you?

OonaStubbs · 07/05/2026 11:11

Greens have a purpose which is to round up all the nutters and keep them away from Labour. Some of the stuff I have seen from them on Twitter is quite frankly unbelievable.

Twiglets1 · 07/05/2026 15:09

OonaStubbs · 07/05/2026 11:11

Greens have a purpose which is to round up all the nutters and keep them away from Labour. Some of the stuff I have seen from them on Twitter is quite frankly unbelievable.

Oh that’s good they do have a useful purpose then 😀

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hazelnutvanillalatte · 07/05/2026 15:10

moofolk · 06/05/2026 22:07

Yes. Assuming that Jewish people support a racist settler colonial state and the genocide needed to uphold it is antisemitic.

jewish people are not all genocidal maniacs! Why is that so difficult to understand?

This is a completely false and racist characterisation of the country. Israelis and people who support Israel are not ‘genocidal maniacs.’ It’s almost as if the forces attacking Israel with the explicit goal of annihilating it and exterminating the Jewish population could more accurately be described that way.

Bertiebiscuit · 07/05/2026 15:12

EamonnFyre · 06/05/2026 06:42

I think the third attack has been mentioned much less than the other two. I also think that people seem to be scrabbling about looking for reasons to moan about the Greens and Zack Polanski. If you don’t like them, don’t vote for them, but don’t bleat about spurious things which appear to many to be a completely legitimate concern. Anyone would think it is an orchestrated campaign against a minority party which might take some votes from the mainstream.

Paranoid much? "bleating"? "spurious"? Really? Don't you read the newspapers?

moofolk · 07/05/2026 19:12

dairydebris · 07/05/2026 09:09

What you've done here is avoid answering my question relating to what you said by asking me a totally unrelated question.

I'll answer anyway. No. I didn't support Apartheid in SA.

Now return the courtesy and answer mine? I've added again below-

"I'd be interested to hear why you think support of Israel is support for racism?

Do you believe every single Israeli is a racist?

Wouldn't that be a bit of a negative sweeping generalization? Isn't a negative sweeping generalization what racism is?"

Another question but yes I’ll answer yours of course. Why do you support Israel’s apartheid when you claim not to have supported South African apartheid?

Now: I claim Israel is a racist state because it is. One ethnic group has more rights than others, and it is a settler colonial state, meaning it is predicated on pushing indigenous people off the land in order to house incomers. This is how it was founded in 1948 and how the West Bank continues to expand.

A Jewish person from the UK can go to Israel and be given more freedom than a Palestinian who was born there.

All Israelis benefit from this, whether they actively want to or not. Just the same as all men benefit from patriarchy. That does not mean for example that all men are terrible people.

And no, criticising the politics of a state is not the same as racism.

ForWittyTealOP · 07/05/2026 23:28

moofolk · 07/05/2026 19:12

Another question but yes I’ll answer yours of course. Why do you support Israel’s apartheid when you claim not to have supported South African apartheid?

Now: I claim Israel is a racist state because it is. One ethnic group has more rights than others, and it is a settler colonial state, meaning it is predicated on pushing indigenous people off the land in order to house incomers. This is how it was founded in 1948 and how the West Bank continues to expand.

A Jewish person from the UK can go to Israel and be given more freedom than a Palestinian who was born there.

All Israelis benefit from this, whether they actively want to or not. Just the same as all men benefit from patriarchy. That does not mean for example that all men are terrible people.

And no, criticising the politics of a state is not the same as racism.

What a garbled and historically inaccurate set of statements. You must have asked AI to write something for you and not fully understood what it churned out. Stop wasting everyone's time with this nonsense.

HelmholtzWatson · 08/05/2026 05:27

moofolk · 07/05/2026 19:12

Another question but yes I’ll answer yours of course. Why do you support Israel’s apartheid when you claim not to have supported South African apartheid?

Now: I claim Israel is a racist state because it is. One ethnic group has more rights than others, and it is a settler colonial state, meaning it is predicated on pushing indigenous people off the land in order to house incomers. This is how it was founded in 1948 and how the West Bank continues to expand.

A Jewish person from the UK can go to Israel and be given more freedom than a Palestinian who was born there.

All Israelis benefit from this, whether they actively want to or not. Just the same as all men benefit from patriarchy. That does not mean for example that all men are terrible people.

And no, criticising the politics of a state is not the same as racism.

Go and moan to your acolytes in the social sciences department - in the real world, no one believes this nonsense.

dairydebris · 08/05/2026 11:53

moofolk · 07/05/2026 19:12

Another question but yes I’ll answer yours of course. Why do you support Israel’s apartheid when you claim not to have supported South African apartheid?

Now: I claim Israel is a racist state because it is. One ethnic group has more rights than others, and it is a settler colonial state, meaning it is predicated on pushing indigenous people off the land in order to house incomers. This is how it was founded in 1948 and how the West Bank continues to expand.

A Jewish person from the UK can go to Israel and be given more freedom than a Palestinian who was born there.

All Israelis benefit from this, whether they actively want to or not. Just the same as all men benefit from patriarchy. That does not mean for example that all men are terrible people.

And no, criticising the politics of a state is not the same as racism.

This reply saddens me.

I've visited both SA and Israel.

In SA the divisions of Apartheid are still clear in the townships on the road to Capetown, in Soweto, and all through society. They will take decades to fully undo. I've also spent time in Israel. Arabs and Jews mix freely. They share the same streets, shelters, buses, restaurants. Its one of the most inspiring things about the place. For everything you hear- when you are there you see how it could be. I don't think you understand what Apartheid was, if you think Israel is an Apartheid state.

But actually, the conditions you're describing aren't in Israel are they? They are in Palestine, or what should be Palestine, or the OPT, however you call it. Arab Palestinian Israeli citizens have the same rights as Jewish Israeli citizens. So we could say that actually Palestine is the Apartheid state? I don't- because I recognise the complexity of the different areas, Gaza, the WB, Areas A B C, all with different balances of power and decades of hatred and violence between the groups. It cannot be reduced down to a snappy line or 2.

This is the part that saddens me. You write this so casually- and yet this is the extreme language of hatred that terrorists use to justify their violence. Which groups also insist that Israel is a settler colonial state? Despite the fact that Jews are indigenous to the land? Which voices constantly try to delegitimize the 'Zionist Entity'?

The voices and narratives you are amplifying on here are not the ones that will help Palestinian's get their future state. They are the voices that perpetuate the cycle of hatred. When you delegitimize the Israeli nation do you think you help the Palestinian's hope for a decent future? In fact you bolster violent Palestinian extremism. And the racist religious supremacists in the Knesset point at the these things being said, and the violence, and say "Look what they say about us! They say we have no right to be here. We cannot allow them a state'. You amplify the voices perpetuating this hate. It harms both sides.

So yes, feel free to criticize specific policy and person in Israel. But please don't spread misinformation and half truths to encourage and stoke hatred. It benefits neither side. Especially in current climate.

BackToLurk · 08/05/2026 14:18

moofolk · 07/05/2026 19:12

Another question but yes I’ll answer yours of course. Why do you support Israel’s apartheid when you claim not to have supported South African apartheid?

Now: I claim Israel is a racist state because it is. One ethnic group has more rights than others, and it is a settler colonial state, meaning it is predicated on pushing indigenous people off the land in order to house incomers. This is how it was founded in 1948 and how the West Bank continues to expand.

A Jewish person from the UK can go to Israel and be given more freedom than a Palestinian who was born there.

All Israelis benefit from this, whether they actively want to or not. Just the same as all men benefit from patriarchy. That does not mean for example that all men are terrible people.

And no, criticising the politics of a state is not the same as racism.

Which indigenous people? Why do you deny that Jews are indigenous to the Levant?

Hoardasurass · 08/05/2026 14:19

moofolk · 07/05/2026 19:12

Another question but yes I’ll answer yours of course. Why do you support Israel’s apartheid when you claim not to have supported South African apartheid?

Now: I claim Israel is a racist state because it is. One ethnic group has more rights than others, and it is a settler colonial state, meaning it is predicated on pushing indigenous people off the land in order to house incomers. This is how it was founded in 1948 and how the West Bank continues to expand.

A Jewish person from the UK can go to Israel and be given more freedom than a Palestinian who was born there.

All Israelis benefit from this, whether they actively want to or not. Just the same as all men benefit from patriarchy. That does not mean for example that all men are terrible people.

And no, criticising the politics of a state is not the same as racism.

You do know that none of what you've said here is accurate.
If you really believe that Israel is a settler state could you please tell us when there was ever a Palestinian state?
Hint never, it was part of the ottoman empire, then in 1917 it became British before Israel was formed and gaza was Jordanian. Oh and Jews have been living in what is now Israel since they concured the caininites around 4000bc.
Learn some actual history instead of racist propaganda

Edited for typo

SunnyAfternoonToday · 08/05/2026 15:37

@dairydebris I have also visited SA and Israel. There is no similarity between the two no matter how often some people equate them.

OonaStubbs · 09/05/2026 03:00

What rights do Jewish people in Palestine have?

SunnyAfternoonToday · 09/05/2026 09:54

OonaStubbs · 09/05/2026 03:00

What rights do Jewish people in Palestine have?

None, if you're thinking of Gaza as Palestine.

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