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AIBU to think this Green Party response raises antisemitism concerns?

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Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 06:23

Reported today that Rachel Millward, the Green Party co-deputy leader, has shared a conspiracy theory about the Golders Green attack in which two Jewish men were stabbed.

It emerged the Muslim Greens, a group of party activists, chatted on a private WhatsApp group over the weekend about launching a campaign to highlight the alleged failure to report Ishmael Hussein, the third victim of the April 29 stabbings. There is no suggestion that this idea has the backing of Mr Hussein.

The private group chat, which included Mothin Ali, the Green Party’s other co-deputy leader, suggested the “racist double standard” in the Government’s handling of the attack also needed to be challenged.

The Golders Green stabbings are the latest in a spate of attacks on the British Jewish community. Last week, Essa Suleiman was charged with the attempted murder of Moshi Shine, 76, and 34-year-old Shloime Rand.

Media outlets reported that he was also charged with the attempted murder of Mr Hussein in Southwark, south London, earlier on the morning of April 29

Ms Millward shared a post from the NewsCord account that claimed Mr Hussein had been “erased from headlines to suit a weaponised, desperate narrative”.
The Greens’ deputy leader commented: “How can this be? Three attempted murders and only two reported?”

NewsCord is an AI-generated news aggregator and campaigning platform set up after the October 7 attacks to challenge the “Western media” and how it was “justifying and manufacturing consent for Israel’s war”.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/05/green-party-anti-semitism-local-election-sabine-mairey/

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BunfightBetty · 06/05/2026 07:23

EamonnFyre · 06/05/2026 06:48

Isn’t this exactly how they ousted Corbyn from Labour when he was high in the polls? It’s interesting how anyone perceived as a threat to the mainstream gets this slung at them.

Are we meant to be turning a blind eye to racism if it comes from Left-wingers?

Is it that you want us to only call it out if it comes from the Right? Or just call out racism against everyone except Jews?

Or should we not call out racism at all - including telling Mothin Ali to stop bleating about racism to Muslims as well?

Wearenotborg · 06/05/2026 07:24

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:22

I’m afraid it is.

Again I ask - what did you think of the actually antisemitic cartoon of Zach Polanski that was published? You know, the Jewish man you’re accusing of being antisemitic because he’s calling out the massive hypocrisy in British media?

So let me get this right, it’s antisemitism if someone draws a cartoon of a Jewish man, but nor if someone stabs Jews? Maybe the cartoon was by a member of the Green Party.

HRTQueen · 06/05/2026 07:24

The first attack has been mentioned far less simply because the nature of the attack was completely different. If the news were to report every single stabbing between two people that happened through a personal situation wr would heard endless accounts daily

the Greens have sadly really damaged their reputation and this is likely to last for some time which I think is very sad as many people have worked tirelessly to campaign for raising awareness of what the Green party originally stood for

saying that the more they dig their grave the better at present

HermioneWeasley · 06/05/2026 07:28

Peony1985 · 06/05/2026 07:19

But the fact the man (I also think this is a key feature) was happy to stab his Muslim friend makes stabbing those of a different faith, less about faith/culture and more he’s a violent moron.

When does asking a question become anti Semitic ? Zack/Dave is himself Jewish.
Is my post Anti Semitic?

They are completely different incidents

he violently attacked someone known to him who was in his proximity

he then travelled across London to one of the few areas with a high Jewish population and stabbed visibly Jewish strangers. He was hunting Jews. If you don’t think his motivation was anti semitism then I wonder what would count in your mind.

and yes I think you minimising the seriousness of what happened is racist.

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:29

Wearenotborg · 06/05/2026 07:24

So let me get this right, it’s antisemitism if someone draws a cartoon of a Jewish man, but nor if someone stabs Jews? Maybe the cartoon was by a member of the Green Party.

Erm, that’s not what I’ve said?

I never once said whether the attacks were antisemitic or not - they’ve not been mentioned at all. I said what isn’t antisemitism is Zach calling out the hypocrisy in the media. Refusing to mention a Muslim victim is pretty disgusting, like it or not.

https://x.com/bellacaledonia/status/2050893057462075450?s=46

The cartoon on the left is the one I’m referring to. Very reminiscent of the anti semitic cartoons published in the 1940s. But because you don’t like Zach’s political beliefs I’m guessing that’s okay?

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 07:30

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:22

I’m afraid it is.

Again I ask - what did you think of the actually antisemitic cartoon of Zach Polanski that was published? You know, the Jewish man you’re accusing of being antisemitic because he’s calling out the massive hypocrisy in British media?

Edited as I hadn't noticed you had asked me about the cartoon earlier.

Having just Googled the Times cartoon which I hadn't previously seen, I wouldn't say Polanski has been given a bigger nose in the cartoon that he has in real life so probably not antisemitic.

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wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:31

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 07:30

Edited as I hadn't noticed you had asked me about the cartoon earlier.

Having just Googled the Times cartoon which I hadn't previously seen, I wouldn't say Polanski has been given a bigger nose in the cartoon that he has in real life so probably not antisemitic.

Edited

Ah, so actual antisemitism is fine because you don’t like his political views. Got it.

BunfightBetty · 06/05/2026 07:33

Plasticdreams · 06/05/2026 07:13

The title and every other part of the article states 2 Jewish men and no other mention. WEIRD.

Unfortunately domestics involving stabbings of people known to the attacker are not at all uncommon in London. Many of them don’t get a mention in national news outlets at all. A woman was stabbed to death by her partner on a street less than a mile from me a few days ago, and it hasn’t hit the national news at all.

Somebody travelling an hour across London with the aim of attacking random strangers purely because of their ethnicity/religion poses much more of a threat to society as a whole, and hence gets a lot more publicity. It’s not that the victims lives are weighted with different value, it reflects whether a crime is usual or unusual or whether it threatens people in general.

What’s so difficulty to grasp here? Are you new to the UK and how news is generally reported? It’s not rocket science.

If the guy the attacker stabbed who he knew was Jewish, and he travelled miles across London specifically to go to Whitechapel to target Muslims coming out of the mosque, would you also be up in arms if the news reports focused on the Islamophobic element of the crime more than the fact the guy also stabbed someone he knew?

Plasticdreams · 06/05/2026 07:34

Wearenotborg · 06/05/2026 07:20

Well apart from being involved in a scheme helping Afghan girls to continue education, being involved in groups supporting Iranian women, I sponsor a child in the Sudan. I’m just curious as to why the Green party decided Palestine was the cause to focus on. I can’t see anything in their comms about any of these other serious issues.

I think it’s fair to say that all of the issues you’ve mentioned Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan are serious and deserve the same attention, and it’s great that you do so much. If you are indeed the charitable person you make yourself out to be, why would it upset you that the greens are highlighting this genocide. Surely you would be happy that it’s gaining so much attention currently.

why are the greens so vocal on Palestine in particular.. it’s likely a mix of factors rather than a dismissal of other causes.. like the scale, immediacy, and visibility of the situation in Gaza, along with the UKs political connections to Israel mean it’s something UK parties feel they have a direct responsibility to speak on. Political parties often prioritise issues where they believe the UK government has influence or where there’s a strong public and parliamentary debate.

That doesn’t mean they don’t care about other crises it may just reflect where they think their voice can have the most impact at a given moment, or where there’s currently the most urgency in terms of UK policy.
It’s also reasonable to expect consistency, though and to ask why some issues get more sustained attention than others - that’s a fair question to put to ANY political party

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 07:34

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:31

Ah, so actual antisemitism is fine because you don’t like his political views. Got it.

The cartoon is not antisemitic in my opinion as the nose is not out of proportion to his actual nose. You would really need to post a copy of the cartoon if you want a general consensus of what people on this thread feel about it, I can only give my opinion on it.

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HelmholtzWatson · 06/05/2026 07:45

EamonnFyre · 06/05/2026 06:48

Isn’t this exactly how they ousted Corbyn from Labour when he was high in the polls? It’s interesting how anyone perceived as a threat to the mainstream gets this slung at them.

You must me "misremembering". Corbyn was ousted for leading his party to their worst election result in nearly 100 years.

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 06/05/2026 07:46

I’m no fan of the Greens but they’re not wrong here.

Underthinker · 06/05/2026 07:48

Have just looked at the cartoon and to me it does draw ZP in a way that resembles how Jews used to be depicted in propaganda. I think it shouldn't have been published. The idea of him kicking the policeman in the head was good poltical satire however and could have worked if drawn differently.

He is a complete tool, but his supporters have a point about the cartoon IMO.

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:50

Twiglets1 · 06/05/2026 07:34

The cartoon is not antisemitic in my opinion as the nose is not out of proportion to his actual nose. You would really need to post a copy of the cartoon if you want a general consensus of what people on this thread feel about it, I can only give my opinion on it.

So it’s okay to perpetuate the stereotype that Jewish people have large noses?

HRTQueen · 06/05/2026 07:51

Underthinker · 06/05/2026 07:48

Have just looked at the cartoon and to me it does draw ZP in a way that resembles how Jews used to be depicted in propaganda. I think it shouldn't have been published. The idea of him kicking the policeman in the head was good poltical satire however and could have worked if drawn differently.

He is a complete tool, but his supporters have a point about the cartoon IMO.

I agree

He feels offended and that’s not anyone else’s decision to make if he is or not

similar to the Guardians cartoon of Priti Patel a few years ago

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:53

HRTQueen · 06/05/2026 07:51

I agree

He feels offended and that’s not anyone else’s decision to make if he is or not

similar to the Guardians cartoon of Priti Patel a few years ago

It seems as though people are very happy to erase his identity as a Jewish man because they don’t like what he says about Israel.

BunfightBetty · 06/05/2026 07:54

Having glanced at it quickly just now, I’m on the fence about the cartoon, it’s subtle in the differences with the nose (it’s not actually a very good likeness of Polanski which I think is confusing my eye). I can see both sides of the argument.

But why is it being focussed on here?

Let’s just say, for argument’s sake, that it is antisemitic. If that’s the case, it’s completely egregious and needs to be called out. But it doesn’t put Polanski, Ali, Millward or the Greens in the clear for their own vile antisemitism.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 07:55

CheeseyOnionPie · 06/05/2026 06:36

I didn’t see or hear anything reported about the first man who was stabbed, only the two Jewish men.

All should have been reported on equally.

Far right tactics. Tell lies, repeat lies until the truth doesn't matter any more. Trump does it to an extreme degree.

I'm certain I'm not talking to a human being in good faith here. Just a bot or shill repeating the conspiracy theory that only attack on Jews are reported, the implication being that we own the media.

BackToLurk · 06/05/2026 07:55

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:29

Erm, that’s not what I’ve said?

I never once said whether the attacks were antisemitic or not - they’ve not been mentioned at all. I said what isn’t antisemitism is Zach calling out the hypocrisy in the media. Refusing to mention a Muslim victim is pretty disgusting, like it or not.

https://x.com/bellacaledonia/status/2050893057462075450?s=46

The cartoon on the left is the one I’m referring to. Very reminiscent of the anti semitic cartoons published in the 1940s. But because you don’t like Zach’s political beliefs I’m guessing that’s okay?

The Times cartoon rehashed antisemitic images. I’d say it was antisemitic, but I also think those images are so ingrained some people don’t spot them. (After all lifelong antiracist Jezza couldn’t spot them in a massive mural).

The attack in Golders Green was antisemitic and anyone deflecting that by talking about a separate assault carried out by the attacker on an acquaintance probably needs to ask themselves what they’re hoping to achieve.

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:58

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 07:55

Far right tactics. Tell lies, repeat lies until the truth doesn't matter any more. Trump does it to an extreme degree.

I'm certain I'm not talking to a human being in good faith here. Just a bot or shill repeating the conspiracy theory that only attack on Jews are reported, the implication being that we own the media.

Nobody is implying either of those things.

I’ll raise another point for you then - there was a former synagogue that was attacked. Former being the key word here - it had been disused since 2020 and there have been attempts from a Muslim organisation to purchase it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/05/fire-former-synagogue-tower-hamlets-east-london

This is being reported as a hate crime - why? Is it not more likely that this is just mindless vandalism?

Police investigate suspected arson attack at former synagogue in east London

Minor damage to gates is believed to have been caused by fire that CCTV shows was started deliberately, Met says

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/05/fire-former-synagogue-tower-hamlets-east-london

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:59

BackToLurk · 06/05/2026 07:55

The Times cartoon rehashed antisemitic images. I’d say it was antisemitic, but I also think those images are so ingrained some people don’t spot them. (After all lifelong antiracist Jezza couldn’t spot them in a massive mural).

The attack in Golders Green was antisemitic and anyone deflecting that by talking about a separate assault carried out by the attacker on an acquaintance probably needs to ask themselves what they’re hoping to achieve.

Nobody is trying to deflect from the attack. They are questioning the media reporting style.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 07:59

EamonnFyre · 06/05/2026 06:42

I think the third attack has been mentioned much less than the other two. I also think that people seem to be scrabbling about looking for reasons to moan about the Greens and Zack Polanski. If you don’t like them, don’t vote for them, but don’t bleat about spurious things which appear to many to be a completely legitimate concern. Anyone would think it is an orchestrated campaign against a minority party which might take some votes from the mainstream.

Concern about antisemitism in mainstream politics is described by you as "bleating". Have a think about why that might be.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 08:00

EamonnFyre · 06/05/2026 06:48

Isn’t this exactly how they ousted Corbyn from Labour when he was high in the polls? It’s interesting how anyone perceived as a threat to the mainstream gets this slung at them.

Who is "they"?

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 08:01

ForWittyTealOP · 06/05/2026 07:59

Concern about antisemitism in mainstream politics is described by you as "bleating". Have a think about why that might be.

Perhaps it’s because people are tired of being labelled as antisemitic because they criticise Israel?

There have been four or five attacks, all of which are absolutely horrendous. But now the nation is being painted as some iteration of 1940s Germany, that everyone is walking around a Nazi. It’s baffling.

HRTQueen · 06/05/2026 08:02

wecangoupupup · 06/05/2026 07:53

It seems as though people are very happy to erase his identity as a Jewish man because they don’t like what he says about Israel.

Not sure who is managing to erase his identity as a Jewish man

I understand why people are questioning why a Jewish man is playing to antisemitism to gain votes