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To think Kemi Badenoch is starting to talk an increasing amount of sense

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Sonato · 05/05/2026 12:26

Never voted conservative a day in my life.

Seriously comsidering it after recent performances

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Dweetfidilove · 05/05/2026 14:29

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 14:01

Tell us that you prefer racists / anti-semites / misogynists without telling us you prefer racists / anti-semites / misogynists.

Take your pick because that's what the other parties represent.

I'm sure this is exactly what the Tory party is, up to and including antisemitic until very recently.

Zov · 05/05/2026 14:29

1dayatatime · 05/05/2026 14:25

Be careful what you wish for, Reform and most definitely the Greens would do a far worse job than Labour.

Yep, I don't want either one of them in ta muchly! Greens and Reform are literally 2 cheeks of the same arse. One far left, and the other far right. Nooooooooooooooo!

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 14:29

1dayatatime · 05/05/2026 14:25

Be careful what you wish for, Reform and most definitely the Greens would do a far worse job than Labour.

As bad or worse for sure. But look at it positively - by the time the GE comes round, following local elections like this, more people will have been directly exposed to how shit Labour, the Greens, Reform, Lib Dems are, and so will understand that the only viable option, is the Conservatives.

Dragonscaledaisy · 05/05/2026 14:29

JustAlice · 05/05/2026 14:27

Notice how we haven't seen Lady Starmer for a long time?

I'm sure if Starmer's comms team read this she'll immediately be rolled out for the inevitable press opportunity, as previously.

EasternStandard · 05/05/2026 14:29

MattDillonsEyebrows · 05/05/2026 14:28

I think she’s ace!

I don’t agree with everything she’s ever said but does anyone ever agree with everything someone says? Why are people on here bringing up one or two things she’s said (that need challenging btw) and declaring her an enemy to women?

Shes strong, decisive and unlike Farage, Starmer and particularly (Dave the ick) Polanski, not an embarrassment to the country! I think she’d be a great prime minister.

Sadly the racist misogynists in the Green and Labour parties would hate to see a black woman in power though. If you’re not a white penis person, the left don’t want to know.

Yeh it’s obvious on that last point. I hope she does it despite them.

HobGobblynne · 05/05/2026 14:30

MattDillonsEyebrows · 05/05/2026 14:28

I think she’s ace!

I don’t agree with everything she’s ever said but does anyone ever agree with everything someone says? Why are people on here bringing up one or two things she’s said (that need challenging btw) and declaring her an enemy to women?

Shes strong, decisive and unlike Farage, Starmer and particularly (Dave the ick) Polanski, not an embarrassment to the country! I think she’d be a great prime minister.

Sadly the racist misogynists in the Green and Labour parties would hate to see a black woman in power though. If you’re not a white penis person, the left don’t want to know.

What a bizarre comment.

Hallowedturf · 05/05/2026 14:30

Zov · 05/05/2026 14:29

Yep, I don't want either one of them in ta muchly! Greens and Reform are literally 2 cheeks of the same arse. One far left, and the other far right. Nooooooooooooooo!

Presumably that makes Starmer the point equidistant from those two cheeks?

Zov · 05/05/2026 14:30

Dollymylove · 05/05/2026 14:24

I like Kemi. She is a very strong speaker, unlike Starmer with his robotic stuttering. Its embarrassing just listening to him

Yep, I agree. Not only a strong speak who speaks sense, but has the likeability factor too. All quite important.

ProfMummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 05/05/2026 14:30

I like that she tells you what her position is and that's it, she knows you might not agree with it and you might not like it but she's not going to hand wring or flip flop or fumble around trying to appease to you because she wants to try and please everyone.

I think she's well aware that no, you can't please everyone and trying to do that is a losing battle. You're too busy putting out fires and fannying around with apologies and platitudes and u-turns to do anything constructive.

It's very straightforward, very "this is my position, so if you vote for us this is what you get, and if you don't like it tough shit"

You might abhor Tories in general, but you can't dislike a good bit of no nonsense.

Riapia · 05/05/2026 14:31

Oh dear.
🌺🌺🌺.

JHound · 05/05/2026 14:31

ProudAmberTurtle · 05/05/2026 14:18

That's simply not true.

It was a time when every Premier League football team had to have 'Black Lives Matter' instead of their names on their shirts and there was political capital to exploit, particularly for black women. Think of Dawn Butler saying she was targeted for racism by the police because her car was stopped and how big a story that became.

Kemi had the guts to speak in parliament about it and say we need to focus on people's characters, not the colour of their skin.

It is true. She’s a Shield and she wields that especially effectively. If she was white it maybe risky but as a black woman in conservative politics absolutely not. It would be far riskier for to say unequivocally blm (small letters) given her voter base.

And she is very much aware of that.

viques · 05/05/2026 14:32

I think she has taken full advantage of the wish washy way Starmer deals with contentious issues and KB has made a deliberate point of making very strong sounding statements, however , she doesn’t have to actually back up those statements by action because of course currently she is in opposition. I suspect that were she to actually be in power we would see a lot of backtracking , statements “ taken out of context”, and “that was then, this is now”, “ we are dealing with the fallout from the previous administration” and all the other squirming getouts that politicians use when they don’t want to put the money where their mouths were when it didn’t make a difference.

She is however a smarter cookie than Rayner who I think is a disaster waiting to happen and who if she ousts Starmer will turn out to be a poisoned chalice for Labour and put the chances of a decent female Labour leader back by decades.
It makes me weep when I think of the strong capable Labour women of the last thirty or forty years who were hung out to dry by the misogynists who ran the party, and are now sadly either dead or retired or no longer have the energy for the fight.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 14:32

Dweetfidilove · 05/05/2026 14:29

I'm sure this is exactly what the Tory party is, up to and including antisemitic until very recently.

Yes sure what with Rishi and Kemi - racists! Then what with Margaret, Theresa, Liz, and Kemi - Sexist misogynists!

Tell me - when did the Labour Party have a person of colour and or a woman as party leader?

WaffleBomb · 05/05/2026 14:33

ProfMummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 05/05/2026 14:30

I like that she tells you what her position is and that's it, she knows you might not agree with it and you might not like it but she's not going to hand wring or flip flop or fumble around trying to appease to you because she wants to try and please everyone.

I think she's well aware that no, you can't please everyone and trying to do that is a losing battle. You're too busy putting out fires and fannying around with apologies and platitudes and u-turns to do anything constructive.

It's very straightforward, very "this is my position, so if you vote for us this is what you get, and if you don't like it tough shit"

You might abhor Tories in general, but you can't dislike a good bit of no nonsense.

Well said. Agree 👍

JustAlice · 05/05/2026 14:33

Dragonscaledaisy · 05/05/2026 14:29

I'm sure if Starmer's comms team read this she'll immediately be rolled out for the inevitable press opportunity, as previously.

I think she's smarter than that and sees no gain in showing her face now. Or just busy packing.

JHound · 05/05/2026 14:33

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 14:32

Yes sure what with Rishi and Kemi - racists! Then what with Margaret, Theresa, Liz, and Kemi - Sexist misogynists!

Tell me - when did the Labour Party have a person of colour and or a woman as party leader?

Edited

This has strong “I’m not racist, I have black friends” vibes.

viques · 05/05/2026 14:33

Hallowedturf · 05/05/2026 14:30

Presumably that makes Starmer the point equidistant from those two cheeks?

😮

xino · 05/05/2026 14:34

BunfightBetty · 05/05/2026 12:48

That was great. She was so clear and unapologetic in her stance, and didn't stand for any nonsense. No fence-sitting, hand-wringing or apologising for racism for her.

I've never voted Tory in my life (centre left voter), and I disagree with her on some issues, but she is easily the most impressive of all the party leaders, by far.

Yes I agree.

Hellohelga · 05/05/2026 14:34

JollyDenimSeal · 05/05/2026 14:21

I personally don't think stop spending money on bombs is such a bad thing. I'm also not an abolitiionist but locking everyone up and throwing away the key for certain crimes isn't the answer. There are lots of reasons why people offend and there are a number of measures offered to offenders to divert them away from prison

I don't vote Green but I can see why they've picked up popularity

(Kids shouldn't be starving in the UK in 2026).

Putin would agree with you that we should stop spending money on bombs, as should France, Germany and Ukraine.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 14:34

JHound · 05/05/2026 14:33

This has strong “I’m not racist, I have black friends” vibes.

Oh dear. You're grasping so much you'll have an injury in a minute..

soundof · 05/05/2026 14:34

Carandache18 · 05/05/2026 14:24

I've also never voted Tory, but she's coming fairly close to convincing me. Completely agree with this assessment of Starmer, Farage and the half wit. I did admire Caroline Lucas, I wish she had stayed around.

Me too. I find the Boris troughing years hard to forgive though and any party that has Jacob Rees Mogg in it, can't do. (Same with Farage). Let's hope she defects somewhere else. Otherwise I dont think ill be voting. Labour are so, so disappointing and, more that that, are clearly out of their depths, ideologicaly captured and just so unprofessional (with the exception maybe of Wes Streeting). Greens are dangerous. Reform talk a good talk, but it still feels a bit too jingoistic for me. Lib dems are pointless, and I still haven't forgiven them for the Ladymen years. So who is left? No one it seems.

Let's have the KB party of taking no shit, sensible, professional politicians!

blueshoes · 05/05/2026 14:35

HobGobblynne · 05/05/2026 14:19

Why? There's no other labour MP with radically different views to him, so whoever comes next will be delivering much of the same.

Much as I disdain the weak Starmer, Raynor and Burnham are far worse.

Same situation as across the pond. Much as I loathe Trump, he needs to stay on for the rest of the term as JD is much worse.

JustAlice · 05/05/2026 14:35

viques · 05/05/2026 14:32

I think she has taken full advantage of the wish washy way Starmer deals with contentious issues and KB has made a deliberate point of making very strong sounding statements, however , she doesn’t have to actually back up those statements by action because of course currently she is in opposition. I suspect that were she to actually be in power we would see a lot of backtracking , statements “ taken out of context”, and “that was then, this is now”, “ we are dealing with the fallout from the previous administration” and all the other squirming getouts that politicians use when they don’t want to put the money where their mouths were when it didn’t make a difference.

She is however a smarter cookie than Rayner who I think is a disaster waiting to happen and who if she ousts Starmer will turn out to be a poisoned chalice for Labour and put the chances of a decent female Labour leader back by decades.
It makes me weep when I think of the strong capable Labour women of the last thirty or forty years who were hung out to dry by the misogynists who ran the party, and are now sadly either dead or retired or no longer have the energy for the fight.

This.

WaryHiker · 05/05/2026 14:35

If she was in power, you would be at war with Iran right now. Cosying up to the American right-wing and involving Britain in a completely unjustified and illegal war worked out really well for Blair!

Hellohelga · 05/05/2026 14:35

OP what is your view? Or is this just political click bait?

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