AIBU to consider voting Green instead of Labour in local elections?

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I’m strongly thinking of ditching Labour & voting for the Green party in the forthcoming local elections because Labour has been such a dismal failure. Do you think this is a good idea or am I being unreasonable?

I don’t think you’ve read any of the past manifestos because none of these are new policies. I’ve been voting Green on and off since about 1999 and progressive taxation, drug decriminalisation etc have always been part of their manifesto. No one clutched their pearls about it then because no one thought they were going to take a quarter of the vote.

No, because their leader posted some truly horrible comments about the atrocities commites in and around Golders Green last week.

Why do you say downward trend? You think the left are on an upward trend???

I suppose it depends on whether whether you tolerate their massive problem with racists and cranks.

Vote for who you want to run your council services. I understand the temptation to punish the government nationally but when the Greens ran Brighton council, they were crap. Not to mention the flagrant antisemitism currently running through the party.

It's worrying how utterly clueless they are about the economy.

According to what I have read - they want to legalize all drugs
Im Sure I read that they want allow class A drugs to be free

they want open borders

after what ZP said about the police officers restraining the guy who stabbed 3 people
any one who votes for the Green Party is as nuts as the Green Party is

What I don’t understand - so someone feel free to educate and explain if you vsm

why do people like ZA go on free Palestine marches

when if he was in Gaza as a gay Jewish man wouldn’t he be there enemy , a target

I mean I can’t imagine them protesting for being liberal about being gay and being Jewish in Gaza

Please look at the ACTUAL record of the people standing
on making your community work better

Many "Reform" candidates previously stood as Brexit / Ukip / BNP
so you can check whether they were any use.

Many "Green" candidates are long standing locals who quietly despise what the National party has become
(see also Lib Dems)

In my area all the Tories are standing as "independent conservatives" to distance themselves from Badenoch

What a mess
We need STV as soon as possible at local level
because multiple seats being won with under 25% of the vote
is going to look BAAAAD

Kemi Badenoch was recently polled as the most popular UK political leader, so it is a bit odd that the conservatives are the ones distancing themselves from their leader.

Do what you want and feel is right.

If you like your green candidates then vote for them.

These are local elections so look at what your local candidates are saying. I volunteer for the Green Party and hoping to elect a councillor on Thursday. She knows the area, the people know her, she is active all year round and really deserves to win. The people in my local group work hard to support her.
National press has had some challenging headlines recently, but try not to be coerced into thinking that all of that is true. Mumsnet responses can be very one sided - read up on your candidate and follow your own ideas.

Well luckily Ed Dwfey is not standing for a position on my council.

Our Lib Dem majority council is well run, not in deficit (unlike an adjacent Tory-run council that went bankrupt) and provides excellent services despite the huge cuts in local government funding. So I’ll happily vote again for our engaged, proactive, and communicative Lib Dem councillors.

So the leader of the greens is of Jewish heritage yet the whole party hate Jews?

Either way they’re all nut jobs, as is anyone who votes for them!

This on bloody spades

OP - you obviously live in a Labour controlled ward / council. If you think your councillors have been a dismal failure then the Greens may well be a good option. They have been great locally in a lot of areas.
What have your Labour Councillors failed on out of interest?

Yep she’s ahead of the party on that.

I’d really love a proper old school Green councillor. I use cycle infrastructure on a daily basis and it would be great if they were interested in the environment still, but the Green looking to be elected in the Scottish parliament where I am thinks we should abolish all prisons, which would obviously be appalling. No way I’m going to vote for them. That and their views on women are disgusting.

Labour = dismal failure, that's nothing to what a Green government will be.

I'd never vote Labour in the main election but the local Labour Councillor is quite present, responds to emails, helps out at the school and is quite visable. I would consider voting him. It's about local issues not national.

I would vote for them. Labour have been a disaster. I have seen no evidence of widespread antisemitism in the Green party,

The next general election will not be until 2029.
The op is talking about this week's local elections.

The bond markets are going to pulverise the UK if the Greens gain the councils as it’s seen as a sign of what’s to come in a GE. That might not matter to many but it will when the cost of living soars and the spending cuts come in.

https://x.com/uklabour/status/2051332883902525821?s=46&t=N3lQrZ7NOBmzt0lfDUYXPA

I couldn't vote green, at the moment.

I appreciate that voters seem to have had their fill when it comes to centre left and centre right parties, and want something more radical.

The UK is facing profound challenges and I do think there a good argument that they ultimately require transformative solutions, vs incremental tinkering.

I'm all for that being a radical, left wing approach that sees a more equitable distribution of wealth...problem is, the Greens don't seem to have any credible ideas, just ideology. I see them as the mirror image to Reform - willing to promise the world to their voters and completely unaccountable on how they could possibly deliver the vision they promise. Real 6th-form ploticis stuff, and totally lacking in substance.

And yes, the party does appear to have a real antisemitism problem.