AIBU to consider voting Green instead of Labour in local elections?

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I’m strongly thinking of ditching Labour & voting for the Green party in the forthcoming local elections because Labour has been such a dismal failure. Do you think this is a good idea or am I being unreasonable?

Like PP said, this has nothing to do with national policy. I’ll be voting green because they seem like the best option among the candidates in my area. I’ve always voted labour but my local labour council has been dogged with scandal and failings in recent years.

Likewise.

The Greens are utterly appalling and spiralling into a toxic mess.

Have they been a dismal failure in your area? What’s your local councillor been doing?

These are local elections. People should be voting on local issues. I suppose it's inevitable people are instead using this as a way of testing out how to vote in a general election.

I will never vote Green again unless they return to being a single issue pressure group trying to get people to take the environment seriously. They have instead morphed into an extreme left-wing party full of people who left or were chucked out of the Labour party for anti-semitic views disguised as pro-Palestinian or anti-Zionist views. They have thrown out many long-standing members who don't support their totally unscientific, ideologically driven position on gender and sex, i.e. self-declared gender matters, sex doesn't.

As for Zack Polanski, give me strength. What an absolute fraud he is.

I'm going green

Seems its all to play for in my safe london labour seat 💚👀

Tricky they’re both bad. But we’re in the same position here. I still won’t vote for either.

If you’re thinking of voting Green, you are almost deranged enough to not be entitled to vote at all.
Please read their policies. They are nut jobs. And dangerous ones at that.

There's going to be a lot of disappointed people after these elections when they realise local authorities and their councillors have zero power over half the stuff they think they're voting for

I have voted green in the past in the local elections when they stood for environmental issues. I could not give them my vote now- they have turned into devisive populists. I grew up around sectarianism, and cannot vote for any party that plays that card.

I doubt it because the local elections will absolutely impact the national parties, indicating how out of touch or otherwise they are.

I believe so yes.

A growing sense of anti immigration sentiment, largely focussed on “small boats”.

A focus on “gender critical” beliefs in the guise of protection of women.

Largely mocking the greens because of their position on drug policy.

I’d categorise these stances as right wing, and they are widely held on this site.

This

@ForCyanGuide "Mumsnet has a heavy right wing bias "

Wtf? Are you on the same Mumsnet as me? I'm a socialist and couldn't stomach to be on this forum if that was the case.

This!

Well yes small boats are a problem, we have trouble housing them and monitoring them and no-one has been checked to make sure they are safe to be in the UK

Gender critical fem8nism protects womens rights, not mens rights. Perfectly reasonable for women to advocate for themselves.

Crack is bad for you and for society, so is ghb which was banned because people were using it to drug and rape women.

Anyone who finds green policies objectionable is being perfectly reasonabke and sane,

Local elections are the most effective way to get change bar a GE. More effective than protests, petitions or anything else.

I mean the green leader of Suffolk county is against solar farms, nationally they are suggesting an across the board subsidy for fuel- and in general the oppose pretty much all building eg HS2 and houses - have cut council housing building in Bristol for w’example and their maternity polices are shocking

I think the Save The Whales spirit of Greens disappeared a long time ago. They’re just a bunch of dangerous nutters now. I appreciate the other options are also poor.

So if you want to protect women and don’t want drugs legalised youre right wing. Gotcha. You seem nice 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The first 2 items have been debated many times.

RE drug policy - as someone who works in this area - suggesting that legalisation will somehow increase the danger of these two things is misleading. Anyone could get either of these items delivered to their door within 48 hours via the dark web.

The point of drug legalisation is to prevent harm to users. The amount of people in the US currently dying from Fentanyl overdoses due to contaminated product is a staggering. The worry is it’s only a matter of time before it’s introduced over here. A policy of legalisation prevents drug related deaths.

Being anti trans doesn’t protect women. It just stigmatises a marginalised group.

see above re drug legalisation. IMO people who at least aren’t open to the well researched and studied debate about drug legalisation generally have contempt for drug users. Which isn’t a view that I hold, no.

Complete bullshit. You cannot protect women's rights to single sex spaces when you let men on the grounds of their 'gender identity'.

And you know this. You just don't care about women's rights.

Just one of the many, many reasons not to vote for this horror show of a party.

And you think reform care about women’s rights! 🤣😆🤣

What the hell happened to the environmental aspect? It's all so bizarre.