To think there will be many more disabled adults in 20 years?

[Walkyrie]

I’m disabled myself, just to put that out there.

It just seems like the number of people with a disability, usually a psychiatric one, is going through the roof.

40% of disability benefit claimants are claiming for mental health related reasons. The number of anxious children and teens on here, and that I know in my own life and family, is really really high. So many schools refusers and kids in need of extra support, special school placements and so on. It seems there are a lot of unemployed young adults living at home who simply don’t have the mental acuity to get a job, live independently, have a life of their own.

3 children in my family are currently school refusing, one we only found out about today but it was not a surprise as she’s always been very anxious and has selective mutism.

My AIBU is, should we be doing something to prepare for what may be a very high number of adults not working in years to come? How will we sustain them all?

No, it is a sigh of relief that we live in a country which gives us money if we need it and when we need it, even to the foreign ones!!!

There is nothing online that suggests that midwives in the UK even in the 1930s helped disabled babies along by ending their life and then calling it a still birth. Disabled people were more likely to end up in an institution.

Different times doesn't mean that it's true. People are being expected to believe that a midwife would kill a disabled child just after birth while the mother was in the delivery room and call it a still birth? I don't believe it.

I think they didn’t thrive, definitely no foul play, my dgm was a wonderful caring person and good nurse

let me explain: I am foreign, wherever I went in the world, I never found a job which lasted more than 2 years. Made it so far thanks to my husband. When one day cannot find even one job which keeps me up to 2 years, am glad i am in the UK where they give us everything. This is the truth, sounds like bad sarcasm, yet it is not

also am thankful my kids dad is British so they are automatically British and the authorities will provide for them if something happens to the family fortune < how much not specified>

No I don’t mean that at all, they just didn’t survive like they do now as there were not the medical advances

We are not talking about babies dying of natural causes because medical science was not yet advanced enough to keep them alive. The previous poster was referring to midwives allegedly making the individual decision to deliberately murder a baby who had been born alive, simply because they were visibly disabled. That has nothing to do with medical advances, it is entirely predicated on a mindset which says that disabled babies would be better off dead and that killing them was a morally positive act.

But also, let's pray there always be money in the tax system for all of us, including you guys who are going to be disabled < like really? I never knew you can predict people will be more and more disabled? Such predictions cannot be accurate. > But what you can predict looking at the news, that there will be millions of immigrants which will take money out of this country. Is this still sarcastic or too uncomfy, purely because it is just the facts

yes I see, hopefully that wasn’t the case then

So this is an immigrant bashing post and a disabled bashing one as well? Do you realise that everyone is just one accident away from being severely disabled? There are immigrants who give to this country. Plenty of them. The surgeon who saved my mums life when she had cancer was an immigrant and has gone home

The UK has always relied on immigrants

No this definitely happened. It happened to my granny. She had 9 children, 2 stillbirths but 1 she swears she heard cry. And when the baby was stillborn (1930s Ireland) the baby would be 'thrown in the bucket under the bed and taken away and that's the last you'd hear about it's poor woman was very traumatised by it. As you can imagine. She also had children with several low level disabilities and the 2 stillbirths were during the thalidomide crisis and my mum always reckoned my granny had taken thalidomide unknowingly and they let or helped the deformed babies pass.

Call me a cynic, but it would surprise me if it had never happened.

A baby would be left without covers and food and allowed to pass or smothered quietly. That's what we were told.

Nail on the head. A huge problem indeed.

But a lot of it is the requirement to pay national minimum wage along with employment rights etc. Lots of employers, particularly small ones, are just not able to comply, or worried about the risk of being sued for an "ism", so don't employ anyone. They fear that they won't easily be able to dismiss someone is just isn't capable of doing the job, whether through being disabled, or just failing to follow instructions, poor timekeeping etc. Smaller employers don't have an HR department to help them follow procedures etc.

Allowed to pass' or smothered quietly, if this happened it is still deliberate, premeditated murder of a newborn infant. Putting it in soft, kind language as though this was the compassionate thing to do does not change that fact. If this did, in fact, occur with any regularity then I am utterly horrified. I find it hard to believe that anyone could look on such barbaric practices with any amount of understanding or make allowance for the past being a 'different place'. I would have hoped that others would be as upset and disturbed as I am by this suggestion.

There are so many violations of the rights of women, babies and children in Ireland in that timeframe there's only much horror you can continue to hold.

So instead people with learning disabilities should be not paid a living wage is that your point?

This. It's dreadful. I don't have the words for it.

Again, I don't want to nitpick every post on here, but I am uncomfortable with phrases like 'help the deformed babies pass' being used when what is being alleged is the deliberate premeditated murder of a newborn infant.
Having been born 'deformed' myself I am very glad that no healthcare professional decided to 'help me pass'. However, I hope one would not have to have personal experience of being born disabled or having a disabled child to be distraught at accounts of the cold-blooded killing of disabled infants.

As I say, if someone isn't capable enough that you wouldn't want to employ them then you shouldn't begrudge them being on benefits.

Then they shouldn't be employers. They shouldn't even think of employing people if they can't pay a decent wage or not upholding workers rights.

There are supports employer can put in place for people with disabilities - any decent employer would. And if they don't have an HR dept. Acas have guidelines

People should have employment rights. They have been eroded enough

As you should be, I'm quoting my grandmother. I have a child with a disability. I am horrified by it but also horrified people don't believe it happened. The way women and babies were treated under the Catholic church especially, it's astounding people DONT believe it but then I guess if you didn't grow up knowing that history just a generation or 2 before maybe you have that luxury

Its horrifiying the way some people think aa you know my son has complex disablliities
But hes in very good health snd enjoys a good quality of life
It reminds me of the pandemic in the early when there waa a worry over a shortage of ventilators
Some people were suggesting ,thst if it came fown to it ,the choice of who should get a ventilator should be based on who could conttibute most to society .

What I actually said was there are no statistics to back up what was said - re the Uk. Then you said you lived in Ireland. I don't live in Ireland. I'm Scottish. With all due respect how would I know what happened in Irish hospitals three generations ago?

Ooh before 1946 there was no NHS or welfare like there is now. People were really hard up

probably had no indoor plumbing and little heating. This must have factored in