To think there will be many more disabled adults in 20 years?

[Walkyrie]

I’m disabled myself, just to put that out there.

It just seems like the number of people with a disability, usually a psychiatric one, is going through the roof.

40% of disability benefit claimants are claiming for mental health related reasons. The number of anxious children and teens on here, and that I know in my own life and family, is really really high. So many schools refusers and kids in need of extra support, special school placements and so on. It seems there are a lot of unemployed young adults living at home who simply don’t have the mental acuity to get a job, live independently, have a life of their own.

3 children in my family are currently school refusing, one we only found out about today but it was not a surprise as she’s always been very anxious and has selective mutism.

My AIBU is, should we be doing something to prepare for what may be a very high number of adults not working in years to come? How will we sustain them all?

She is, but where does it end if we keep claiming for everything? There's a dwindling amount of taxpayers in the country and the money can't possibly cover everything. I think it's best if people who are able to more or less cope somehow just try their best to get on with things and leave funding for the folk that really need it the most.

Absolutely! My point was just that when women from the past report that this happened the response is to assume they are lying when there are lost of stories strongly suggesting it absolutely happened. All kinds of horrors happen and have happened.

I live in Scotland now too and I'd be surprised if similar hadn't happened at similar times in history. Babies just let to pass at the very least. Families would have large numbers of children and many died in infancy and babyhood. I didn't mean to offend in any way just to say there are stories and enough to suggest some truth. The letting babies pass without intervention I didn't think was a surprise to be honest

And those who aren't?

DS1 was born at 24 weeks, 20 years ago. If he’d been born a couple of days earlier the doctors would not have tried to save him.

I have a cousin who said the same about his DS2. Because of his prematurity he's disabled

Aren't what?

You aren't "claiming for everything". I get just over 70 pounds a week for the mental health component of my adp

More or less coping doesn't happen for everyone. I'm going to be quite blunt here. You've just said that your wife is struggling after a bereavement. She's not coping in work. You aren't either - but you don't want to try and claim more benefits because there are other people who need them more

What happens if she has a breakdown. Or you do? I don't think anyone should be discouraged from applying for benefits if they are suffering from physical and mental health issues or either of them. You aren't more or less coping. You said you were barely coping earlier.

That's how I ended up on disability benefits (leg break aside). I was stalked and just as I thought I was starting to recover a horrible group of neighbours started harassing me. I was threatened on my own doorstep and had to call police and then someone online handed over my phone number to a girl on twitter who doxxed me dozens of times and I woke up to texts on the second of January saying - I'm getting you arrested

But on a lot of threads on here I'm told - nothing wrong with you. You only have anxiety

Coping

I am sadly quite sure that disabled newborns were murdered at birth both in Ireland and the UK, as well as everywhere else in the world. The original post I responded to did not state they were talking about Ireland.
I can hope this evil practice was not widespread but I am convinced there were plenty of cases. There is probably little reliable statistical evidence to show how many babies this happened to, as I imagine reliably collecting such data would be incredibly difficult so most of these cases will have to be anecdotal.
I was not taking issue with the fact that it happened, despite having no way of knowing how widespread it is. My issue is the posts on here which have continued to use cosy euphemisms like 'quietly smothered' or 'helped them pass' to describe the deliberate premeditated murder of newborn infants.
I realise this may have been the language people used in the past to justify their appalling acts, but we really should avoid continuing to use such misleading phrases. It is always much better to describe these horrifying acts as what they are. We should never unwittingly become apologists for such barbarism by accidentally downplaying it by using minimising language. I apologise if I did not make this clear.

My boy is disabled as well.

I was born in Scotland in 1969. I was three months premature. I weighed less than two pounds at birth

I didn't get the best care but there was no suggestion of not trying to improve my health. My mum was banned from the ward and had to fight to see me because nurses thought she was feckless and going to leave me there. She was married and at uni. She was the person that noticed my legs were blue. I had a hole in my heart that healed

Well, they should put in claims. That's what I said.

Nobody's saying that to you in particular. Nobody knows anything about you.

You also said that you and your wife were struggling badly - if your wife doesn't get adp/pip for her mental health then she could consider applying for that component. She could also consider dropping hours and claiming Uc although you would need to claim as a couple and household income would be taken into account

Can we all please learn the difference between anxiety and an anxiety disorder they're not the same thing.

It's been said very plainly on other threads that people with anxiety shouldn't be claiming Pip or adp and there have been plenty of negative comments made to me on other threads on here because I'm on disability benefits.

I don't actually know what the issue is here to be honest. You said you were struggling and I tried to help.

Those who try their best but AREN'T able to workt hrough.

My wife's too fragile just now to go through all that. I wouldn't want the hassle and strain for her. She doesn't need it, and she's said as much. It's too much for her just now. We'll have to manage.

I answered you. They should put in the appropriate claim(s).

Edit for punctuation.

I used that language but not because I thought it was ok, I was literally using the language used when stories were told to me. I completely agree that every life should hold the same value and be given the best available care. My point was more it was a harsh time and those who did those things probably genuinely believed they were 'helping' it's horrible, of course it is!

If she stops working and has been an NHS employee for sometimes she can be signed off. Perfectly reasonably, by her medical team and receive full pay for 6 months while she takes time to work on rest and recovery, then when she returns she can speak to occupational health about options for reduced duties etc.

Unfortunately the NHS can be a very toxic place to work and dealing with middle management in that scenario can be worse than working. However if she hits the point where she can't work she may need to not work. The fact she is still working shows she can.

Yes I think that is probably what they were instructed to do, different times and more brutal

She was off for more than six months a while ago due to one of her physical ailments, so she's wary of being signed off again. She was also off for about four months last year before and after her mum's death to cancer.

So she isn't just struggling through then, she's fortunate to have full sick pay, I thank my lucky stars every day for it as I had 3 months off due to I jury when self employed and it crippled us financially. Those who don't have sick pay and get fired immediately as soon as the company can manage when their health fails don't have that fallback.

It isn’t factual. Disability benefits are a small proportion of the welfare expense. By far the largest welfare expense is state pension welfare, followed by social care which again is primarily spent on the elderly. If you add together all working-aged benefits (childcare funding, child benefit, unemployment benefit via universal credit, PIP, the disability element of universal credit, ESA, housing benefit via universal credit, support for low income workers via universal credit/ support for lower earners with children via universal credit etc) in TOTAL this is less than the welfare for pensioners (pension, pension credit plus social care for the elderly) even though the elderly are only 15% of the population.