Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Guessing it’s ’pro-Palestinian’?

Thanks. Not sure what that has to do with the OP’s post, it’s just derailment.

This is completely ridiculous. First guy was an acquaintance, a fellow Islamist that had obvious pissed him off. He then went on to commit a terrorist attack on two poor Jewish people going about their daily business. Truly sickening.

TBF Stephen Lawrence's murder was shocking because he was apparently chosen at random just because of his skin colour, while all those others you mention were either personal disputes or gang warfare.

I think a closer comparison is the murder of Kriss Donald, who, like Stephen Lawrence, was picked because he was a "white boy from the McCulloch Street area" despite having no involvement in any gang activity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

That said, your point stands, because yes, it's strange that everyone still knows about Stephen Lawrence, but nobody seems to care much about poor Kriss Donald.

We don't know if it is a terror-related stabbing. We don't know the facts. We do know he stabbed three people, that luckily none of them were fatal (probably due to using a short-bladed knife not a machete/zombie knife), that he had mental health issues. That really is as good as it gets at the moment. We also have to remember that terrorism has been redefined after the Southport killings, so that an ideology does not have to be a motivation.

Sure. Pro pal = pro Palestine.

I've answered your question, so your turn.

We don't know if it was racially motivated. It may well be, but we honestly don't know.

I'd put my month's salary on it though. Are you prepared to do the same and bet the same on it not being related to islamism, but just a random MH attack?

As you seem very keen on facts are you going to ask this poster who they think has been killed and why they are getting very basic facts about the case wrong (eg that the first victim is alive with apparently minor injuries)?

@MurkyMo it was reported in the news that this is one reason it was reported as a racist antisemitic attack

Legally yes innocent until proven guilty.
Realistically with the cctv footage, body camera footage and the bystander footage no.
Many mentally ill people are convicted of crimes and spend their time in secure prisons like broadmoor, others go to jail.
He is known to be violent having been convicted of stabbing police officers and a police dog in 2008 and was jailed for it. He is also known to have been reported to prevent.
The counter terrorist police have deemed it a terrorist attack
So yes it is that simple

Why can’t you ask them yourself? Am i your interlocutor?

It's very simple @nomas The OP claimed that the third' (in fact first) victim 'Isn't being mentioned anywhere', despite the fact that the Met Police press release in the linked tweet mentioned them. As did multiple news reports. So then there had to be a pivot to "ah well they mention it, but they don't really give it the importance of the other attacks". To which the responses were along the lines of "that's probably because the first victim was known to the attacker. It was a personal dispute (depressingly common and rarely reported), whereas the subsequent attacks were racially targetted" (at this point we should remember that the attacker was already known to Prevent).

We then saw the bizarre spectacle of posters who were stating the obvious - assaults on people attackers know are massively more common than random attacks in the street, and reporting reflects this (News values) - being accused of minimising an assault by posters who seemed very keen on minimising the level of antisemitism in the UK. Using a range of tactics from not understanding 'per capita' and suggesting it's "just because the Jews know how to report things" to painting it as all part of 'the narrative' (we're yet to discover what this is) and a surreptitious Jewish oops Zionist plot to stop marches.

But yea 'derailment'

Yet the police who are interviewing the suspect have labelled it a terror attack.

So this man with mental health issues stabs different people over several days. That is all we know at this time. We don't know the motive for any of them. It could be that he was targeting Jewish people. But we really can't say we know that yet. To me, it seems he has stabbed a range of people. Are any of those stabbings worse than others? That is a matter of opinion.

Of course all the attacks on Jewish people are false flag operations just like the false flag assassination attempts on Donald Trump and Prince Philip's plan to murder Diana in Paris.

In previous decades these people would have been ignored as drunks and lunatics, these days they post on the Internet.

Why would it not be racially motivated? It’s been reported by police via the media that he was attacking ‘visibly Jewish’ people, who were wearing traditionally Jewish clothes in the BBC footage of the attack, in a known Jewish area (Golders Green in London). It is a racially motivated attack.

Their religious clothing

Oh I already have, as have several others but they’re just ignoring it, as I know you were very particular about a certain fact of the case previously, I was helpfully pointing out you might have better luck clearing up, what I’m sure you’ll agree is a lie. Obviously you don’t want misinformation circulating

I would have expected MN to be flooded with posts about this incident but it seems strangely quiet. All those bots must have been programmed to the inherent MN left wing bias

Yes exactly. The media haven't failed to mention him either.

The first person Essa Suleiman attacked was his Muslim friend, who sustained minor injuries. The two Jewish men he attacked were hospitalised, one has since been released. No-one, thankfully, has died. ES has been charged with three counts of attempted murder. All of this information is on the TV news channels and in the newspapers. The media have not failed to report on the Muslim gentleman, that's just misinformation.

You need to ask your own questions and not rely on me. I’m not your secretary.

Israeli genocide, I didn’t know they were having a march against the genocidal intent of the countries surrounding Israel of the genocide of all Jews.

So the Muslim victim must be an Islamist?

Wow.