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Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) on X

A man will appear in court today charged following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into two men stabbed in #GoldersGreen: https://t.co/BgK04EQmyX

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

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BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:31

AcquadiP · 02/05/2026 16:06

Yes, but the incapacitation only lasts as long as the electrical current, which is about 5 seconds and he was still holding the knife, which he had been repeatedly told to drop. In addition, he was wearing a padded jacket on a warm day, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to suspect he was concealing a suicide vest or explosives. No-one condones gratuitous police violence but the police in these situations have to protect themselves and each other.

Watch the police cam footage please and you will see your comments are not relevant

He was on the ground face down
Shaking within seconds un fact of being first tasered

He had the Police officer shouting at him to release the knife whilst he’s being tasered and another officer on his back whilst the one with the taser is kicking his head

What the hell !!!!

This is some stupid police officer that should not have a right to use a taser
He should know you cannot move your muscles when being tasered

I believe the police are ‘investigating themselves’

So no
This is pure police brutality although perhaps through stupidity rather than deliberate intent to hurt. I don’t know but

whatever the reason
It is never acceptable to act like this and
we should never accept such a police force

RafaistheKingofClay · 02/05/2026 16:32

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:25

So this man with mental health issues stabs different people over several days. That is all we know at this time. We don't know the motive for any of them. It could be that he was targeting Jewish people. But we really can't say we know that yet. To me, it seems he has stabbed a range of people. Are any of those stabbings worse than others? That is a matter of opinion.

Or counter terrorism police. Who have declared it a terrorist attack.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:32

DesolatedCheese · 02/05/2026 10:54

Where is the mental gymnastics in noting a difference between a minor knife attack on a friend at home in a dispute and travelling a significant distance to an area heavily populated by a particular and visually identifiable demographic and stabbing people unknown to the attacker apparently chosen for no reason beyond their Jewish appearance.

I'd argue that trying to see them as the same is the mental gymnastics...

Here is a scenario. He gets on a train, agonises about what he has done, is in a mental health crisis, wonders whether to go home or to go somewhere else, gets off a train at a random stop, and then stabs people. I can see instances where this is as likely as going to a Jewish part of London. I am not saying I am right, but people do seem to be assuming they know what went on.

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 16:32

Of course it was a terror attack.

Apart from the fact that the counter terrorism unit and the police and the government are calling it a terror attack, it's also just very obviously a terror attack. One of many that have been perpetrated against Jewish people in recent months.

We do know that. You can say 'we don't know' until the cows come home but we absolutely do know. The only reason you can't face up to it is because it doesn't suit your ideological views.

I'm not wrong. I would bet my house on it.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:32

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 15:21

That sounds like you are in favour of police brutality !

Sounds like you think you could do a better job than the police in dealing with murdering attackers.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:33

Poetnojo · 02/05/2026 15:21

Do you mean it's being used to silence racist anti semites?

Yes this.

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 16:35

mugglewump · 02/05/2026 15:48

People's responses to this post are so confusing: surely, a man that stabs 3 people in one day is clearly mentally very unstable. By not mentioning his first victim, you are making his crimes soley racial and not because of mental health issues.

No not clearly some people are just violent without being mentally unwell.
His 1st victim is and has been mentioned repeatedly however it was a separate incident between the attacker and his friend of 20+ years whilst his attacks on the 2 Jewish men that happened hours later in a Jewish area that he specifically went to was an act of terrorism.
By claiming that this is just a mental health issues is dismissing and ignoring his antisemitism and his terrorist acts

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 16:35

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:25

So this man with mental health issues stabs different people over several days. That is all we know at this time. We don't know the motive for any of them. It could be that he was targeting Jewish people. But we really can't say we know that yet. To me, it seems he has stabbed a range of people. Are any of those stabbings worse than others? That is a matter of opinion.

Oh who are the others he’s attacked on different days? There were 3 people attacked on the same day

zingally · 02/05/2026 16:36

I do remember hearing reports of "an altercation earlier in the day" that was "believed to be linked".
This would have been on my local BBC radio station, as I was in the car. My understanding is that they knew each other.

A stabbing (as awful as it is) when the attacker and victim are known to each other, and involved in a dispute, is completely different to an attack on two completely innocent strangers.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:37

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:32

Sounds like you think you could do a better job than the police in dealing with murdering attackers.

I would act within the law and not kick their head in whilst they are already on the ground being tasered
Any other methods are pure brutality
That’s the police standards in the U.K. and we should never ever accept anything less

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:37

HoldingTheDoor · 02/05/2026 11:07

How does that disprove it? I’m not saying that it’s true(It might or not be true) but the Muslim population in the UK is far larger than the Jewish population.

The majority of hate crimes reported by Jewish people are name calling and online hate. There are reports to suggest that Muslim hate crime goes vastly under-reported due to a lack of confidence in the authorities. We always have to be careful with data and stats.

Goodtosayso · 02/05/2026 16:37

tulippetals · 02/05/2026 10:00

He was mentally unwell. It’s actually vile that people are trying to erase the third victim because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

Yes, he had only recently been discharged from the Maudsley psychiatric hospital but that fact seems to be downplayed too.

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 16:37

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:31

Watch the police cam footage please and you will see your comments are not relevant

He was on the ground face down
Shaking within seconds un fact of being first tasered

He had the Police officer shouting at him to release the knife whilst he’s being tasered and another officer on his back whilst the one with the taser is kicking his head

What the hell !!!!

This is some stupid police officer that should not have a right to use a taser
He should know you cannot move your muscles when being tasered

I believe the police are ‘investigating themselves’

So no
This is pure police brutality although perhaps through stupidity rather than deliberate intent to hurt. I don’t know but

whatever the reason
It is never acceptable to act like this and
we should never accept such a police force

Edited

Are you taser trained?

Error404FucksNotFound · 02/05/2026 16:37

LakieLady · 02/05/2026 12:32

Given that the perpetrator is a "random psycho", it's highly likely that there is some degree of diminished responsibility in his behaviour. If so, his decisions and behaviours can't be judged by normal standards or explained in rational terms and that includes his decision to go and stab Jewish people.

People having a MH crisis are often capable of doing quite complex things, but that doesn't make their decisions or actions rational. Even in the height of a psychosis and while sectioned under the MHA, my DB managed to make his way from the AMHU near the Essex coast to my home in Sussex. He managed to navigate the public transport complexities and find his way to my house, despite never having been to my town before and it being in the days before smartphones, so no looking up train times or maps or anything.

He felt compelled to come and see me to tell me that he'd finally got to the bottom of a longstanding family mystery, his explanation of which was the biggest load of delusional nonsense I've ever heard. And I had to sit and listen to it for 8 hours before the police and a psych nurse came and got him!

The point is that it was a decision. It wasn't a random, could have been anyone, picked them by chance situation as some are claiming.

He travelled to Golders green to stab Jewish people.
That is what he wanted to do, travelled to do, and did.

Why he did it doesnt change that he did it.

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 16:38

MurkyMo · 02/05/2026 15:56

What does it mean to say "visibly Jewish men" What made them visibly Jewish ?? I ask because i haven't seen any photos of either of them.

Their religious clothing

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 16:38

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:37

The majority of hate crimes reported by Jewish people are name calling and online hate. There are reports to suggest that Muslim hate crime goes vastly under-reported due to a lack of confidence in the authorities. We always have to be careful with data and stats.

I'm sure that you don't mean to minimise the hate crimes against Jewish people, but unfortunately that's how this post reads.

Wouldcou · 02/05/2026 16:39

If he was mentally ill then how is it an act of terrorism?

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:39

maudelovesharold · 02/05/2026 11:16

I’m not sure where the idea that it’s a terrorist attack is coming from. He a dangerous psychopath, isn’t he, not a terrorist? He was living in accommodation for people recently released from secure mental health units. There have been many cases of victims being hugely let down by the lack of funding in mental health services, allowing their attackers to kill or maim. Calocane is another recent case. I’m not trying to say Suleiman wasn’t racist and didn’t target Jewish people specifically - he obviously did - but sick people target others for any number of twisted reasons - they’re elderly, they’re gay, they have dark skin, …There’s an awful case of a Sikh woman who was violently raped by an dangerous Islamophobe, just because he thought she was Moslem. I think more money needs to be spent on our collapsing mental health services. That would protect people going about their daily lives far more than ever more stringent security measures will.

Edited

You are right to question motive. I think the definition of terrorism has been changed under the law since the Southport attacks, so that terrorist acts don't have to be motivated by an ideology. We don't know the motivation (if any) of this attacker yet.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:41

So
im looking for recent updates

does anyone know
1/ was the first attack dealt with by police and ambulance
2/ could, in the knowledge of the first attack happening, the police force in any way find and prevent the second attack

ie. Did the police act on the intel from the first attack quickly ?

do we know.
I can’t find much at all in the news in this regard

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 16:43

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:32

Here is a scenario. He gets on a train, agonises about what he has done, is in a mental health crisis, wonders whether to go home or to go somewhere else, gets off a train at a random stop, and then stabs people. I can see instances where this is as likely as going to a Jewish part of London. I am not saying I am right, but people do seem to be assuming they know what went on.

He didn’t start his attack on Jewish people at ‘a random stop’.

He was at Brent Cross between his starting point (home, in south-east London) and Golders Green (final stop). It’s unclear how he travelled from BC to GG, but it’s likely it was by bus, which is the easiest route and takes about 15 minutes.

So in summary, I don’t believe he just got off at a ‘random stop’. Also, he had a knife on him. Who carries a knife when going about their daily routine? No one I can think of.

Twiglets1 · 02/05/2026 16:43

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:15

Given your posts to me have been deleted, why do you think you can keep posting and expecting engagement? You’ve asked the same question 5 times now.

Only one of the posts by @IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken to you has been deleted.

Not multiple posts so that's false.

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 16:44

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:41

So
im looking for recent updates

does anyone know
1/ was the first attack dealt with by police and ambulance
2/ could, in the knowledge of the first attack happening, the police force in any way find and prevent the second attack

ie. Did the police act on the intel from the first attack quickly ?

do we know.
I can’t find much at all in the news in this regard

Edited

Does literally no one ever follow through links that are given? Does everyone just read the bare minimum? That would explain a lot about the world.

From the press release linked to in the tweet in the OP

"As part of this investigation, detectives were also made aware of an incident that was reported to police earlier on Wednesday 29 April in south east London. It is believed the suspect in this incident was the same individual arrested in Golders Green.
Police were called at approximately 08:50hrs on 29 April to an incident at an address in Great Dover Street, SE1. The suspect, who is reported to have been armed with a knife, is believed to have had an altercation with the occupant before leaving. The occupant received minor injuries and police arrived within around six minutes of being called. Officers carried out searches in the local area for the suspect, but he was not located. Officers also carried out enquiries to locate the man at an address connected to the suspect, but again, he was not located."

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 16:44

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:39

You are right to question motive. I think the definition of terrorism has been changed under the law since the Southport attacks, so that terrorist acts don't have to be motivated by an ideology. We don't know the motivation (if any) of this attacker yet.

Possibly antisemitism? Everything is pointing to that for now.

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 16:44

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wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 16:46

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 16:38

I'm sure that you don't mean to minimise the hate crimes against Jewish people, but unfortunately that's how this post reads.

Oh I'm sure she does mean to do exactly that. There have been a number of terror attacks against Jews in the UK in recent months and to claim that the hate they face is online name calling is pure anti-semitism. Jews don't count, basically, to these people. Jewish kids being spat on, Jewish families terrified, syngagogues being attacked, ambulances set on fire, and Jews stabbed in the street. But you know, that's just Jews overreacting to a bit of name-calling, right Sam?

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