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Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) on X

A man will appear in court today charged following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into two men stabbed in #GoldersGreen: https://t.co/BgK04EQmyX

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

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AcquadiP · 02/05/2026 16:06

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 15:39

He had already been tassered !!!
he was on the ground

Are you in favour of police brutality because I certainly do not condone it. On anyone.

Yes, but the incapacitation only lasts as long as the electrical current, which is about 5 seconds and he was still holding the knife, which he had been repeatedly told to drop. In addition, he was wearing a padded jacket on a warm day, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to suspect he was concealing a suicide vest or explosives. No-one condones gratuitous police violence but the police in these situations have to protect themselves and each other.

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 16:07

nomas · 02/05/2026 15:50

Why are you so fixated on a simple correction? People have said (and are still saying) that the attacker and victim lived together and therefore it was a domestic dispute. I’m saying that the BBC reported that the attacker travelled to the victim’s home and attacked him there.

This really doesn’t need the focus you’re giving it. Not least because every time I reply to you, some poster will accuse me of banging on about it, not you.

And thankfully I have a well rounded circle of friends and colleagues from all religions and races, so your indirect accusations really don’t matter a jot.

And thankfully I have a well rounded circle of friends and colleagues from all religions and races, so your indirect accusations really don’t matter a jot

Let me guess, all your Jewish friends are anti Zionist and pro pal marchers?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:07

MurkyMo · 02/05/2026 14:45

So what is the agenda? It's not crystal clear to me

Same as your agenda.

RafaistheKingofClay · 02/05/2026 16:08

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 15:56

They’re not trying to erase the third victim! In every single news story I’ve read or watched on this - and every person I’ve spoken to about it - the third victim has been mentioned.

The point is that the attacker injured his first victim - his friend - and then travelled to Golders Green, a known Jewish area, to find ‘visibly Jewish’ people to injure. That premeditation - and the fact he was targeting people from a specific community - makes his crime extremely serious.

He can be both mentally ill and antisemitic. That’s completely possible.

yes. Mentally ill is not the same as lacking mental capacity or the ability to plan and carry out a violent attack.

Some people do commit acts of violence as part of a psychiatric crisis. Some people commit acts of violence and also have psychiatric disorders but the latter is not necessarily the cause of the former.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:08

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:01

The thread is about the third victim. Denying that is absurd..

You got there before me nomas

I really don’t understand why so many people are derailing here ?!

What’s going on
Does no one give a toss about the first person that was killed
How utterly disrespectful !

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:08

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 16:07

And thankfully I have a well rounded circle of friends and colleagues from all religions and races, so your indirect accusations really don’t matter a jot

Let me guess, all your Jewish friends are anti Zionist and pro pal marchers?

What’s a pro pal?

Gallowayan · 02/05/2026 16:08

tulippetals · 02/05/2026 10:06

So let’s get this straight.

Man stabs three people.

Only two victims matter.

Got it.

You are talking nonsense.

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 16:08

Twiglets1 · 02/05/2026 16:04

At least one of them (the 76-year-old) was wearing a kippah, which is a Jewish men's head covering. Not sure about the other one, maybe he was equally wearing something that identified him as Jewish as there seems no doubt about it.

I saw the film, he was wearing black, a hat and the frock coat (I'm sorry I don't know the correct terms) also the item which shows from under the shirt. (Tzitzit?)

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 16:09

KeepPumping · 02/05/2026 15:30

Committed by someone with mental health problems on a Muslim person and two Jewish persons, I can agree on that, except that defining the type of terrorism is not as straightforward as you seem to suggest?

Except tge attack on his Muslim friend of 20+ years is mot being classed as a terrorist attack but as a domestic/personal dispute which was separate to the antisemitic terrorist attack.
It really isn't as complicated as you are trying to paint it, in what appears to be an attempt to minimise or deny that its an antisemitic act of terrorism

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 16:10

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:06

Just stating a fact.

No. No facts have ever been stated by you in any comment of yours I've ever seen. No facts, no truths, nothing but lies and propaganda. We can see it, you know.

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:10

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:08

You got there before me nomas

I really don’t understand why so many people are derailing here ?!

What’s going on
Does no one give a toss about the first person that was killed
How utterly disrespectful !

Thanks. As you can see by the number of deleted posts attacking me, it’s standard derailment tactics.

Really not worth engaging with them.

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 16:10

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:08

What’s a pro pal?

Edited

You're nothing but predictable! Here you go again with another attempt at policing language, in an attempt to derail.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:12

nomas · 02/05/2026 14:49

I’ve answered you two times already, why do you keep repeating yourself?

Because you keep repeating yourself with the same answer that makes no sense and doesn’t address your misdirection of the issue.

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 16:12

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:08

You got there before me nomas

I really don’t understand why so many people are derailing here ?!

What’s going on
Does no one give a toss about the first person that was killed
How utterly disrespectful !

No one cares about the imaginary person who was killed at all.

However, all three people, the Muslim friend of 20 years of the alleged attacker and the two Jewish men who were the victims of terrorism have all been mentioned across the media, by police and on court. We hope all 3 recover from their injuries.

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 16:12

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:08

You got there before me nomas

I really don’t understand why so many people are derailing here ?!

What’s going on
Does no one give a toss about the first person that was killed
How utterly disrespectful !

Nonsense. The OP is a claim that the first victim has been 'erased' from media reporting. This has been conclusively shown to be a false claim.

Pointing out that a claim is false is not 'derailing'.

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:13

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 16:10

You're nothing but predictable! Here you go again with another attempt at policing language, in an attempt to derail.

What does ‘pro-pals’ (whatever they are) have to do with OP’s thread? It’s you who is derailing.

Again, not worth engaging.

AcquadiP · 02/05/2026 16:14

MurkyMo · 02/05/2026 15:56

What does it mean to say "visibly Jewish men" What made them visibly Jewish ?? I ask because i haven't seen any photos of either of them.

Either they are wearing the Kippah (skullcap) or they are Orthodox Jews such as the Heredi, who dress very distinctly.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:14

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

I see this too.
Why are you doing this @nomas

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 16:14

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:13

What does ‘pro-pals’ (whatever they are) have to do with OP’s thread? It’s you who is derailing.

Again, not worth engaging.

If You don't want to answer the question, just say so. It's far easier.

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 16:14

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 15:39

He had already been tassered !!!
he was on the ground

Are you in favour of police brutality because I certainly do not condone it. On anyone.

He was still armed with a knife.
He was refusing to drop it.
There was a reasonable suspicion that he could have had a bomb.
Kicking someone in the head is a standard well known tactic to disarmed an attacker under these circumstances.
Given all of the above could you please explain where police brutality comes into it?

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:15

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:12

Because you keep repeating yourself with the same answer that makes no sense and doesn’t address your misdirection of the issue.

Given your posts to me have been deleted, why do you think you can keep posting and expecting engagement? You’ve asked the same question 5 times now.

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 16:15

@MurkyMo

To reply to your question about made the two victims visibly Jewish, the BBC says the attacker stabbed both men after they were leaving a synagogue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e8lyj1z7no

The Guardian says one of the men - Moshe Shine - was wearing a kippah whilst waiting at a bus stop.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/29/stabbing-golders-green-london

The BBC have footage - which is upsetting to watch - of both attacks: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cddp47gj07yo

A forensic officer stands in a pale blue protective suit surrounded by police vehicles. A group of police officers can be seen in the background

Who are the victims of the Golders Green attack in London?

The two men stabbed in Golders Green have been named locally as Shloime Rand, 34, and Moshe Shine, 76.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e8lyj1z7no

inamarina · 02/05/2026 16:15

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:08

You got there before me nomas

I really don’t understand why so many people are derailing here ?!

What’s going on
Does no one give a toss about the first person that was killed
How utterly disrespectful !

The first person that was killed? By whom?

nomas · 02/05/2026 16:17

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 16:14

If You don't want to answer the question, just say so. It's far easier.

So you don’t want to explain what a pro-pal is?

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 16:17

inamarina · 02/05/2026 16:15

The first person that was killed? By whom?

@BrownTroutBluesAgain no one was killed.

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