Labour are totally toast in Thursday’s elections

[Nicewoman]

I can’t wait for Thursday. Labour are finished. Not a single moment too soon. Happy Dayz

Well yeh that’s how the votes work. You feel strongly as shown in your posts but more will feel similarly but about Starmer and Labour.

We all know the results for Labour are going to be terrible and there is not going to be a "good " result by any measure. What many, or even most, left wing folk are focused on is keeping Reform out as far as possible. That is the battle to win at the moment IMHO.

Quite a few centrists like me also want to keep Reform out. It's not the sole preserve of the left.

Labour, Lib Dems and Greens are all quite popular here. The worry is that the voting will be split, allowing Reform to win seats.

But also re Reform and the Tories.

There will be a huge amount of apathy, low voting, tactical voting to keep out Reform
and the Tories, local issues….

Think at your peril that these elections will give a taste of the next general election which is
a long time ahead .

Vote Reform if you want St Georges crosses on your roundabouts and councillors to spread racist comments "Melt them all down and fill in the potholes" - The bizarre racist rant from Sunderland Reform candidate – HOPE not hate

Odd comment given I haven't thanked you for sharing a link. I did thank upstartled for doing so?

Assuming that Reform are so terrible as some posters assert, should they prevail in many areas of England on Thursday, people do accept what a damning indictment that would be on Labour?

Following the logic.

@ConcernedForWales

An aide-memoire.

Which demonstrates I didn't thank you for posting a link. I thanked Upstartled for posting a link.😊 I did thank you for the clarification on the bullet point.

Anyway.

Bloody hell, that is absolutely disgusting.

But Reform isn't racist.

...because rudeness is the weak person's imitation of strength.

Pianopiece has such a weak argument that she attempts to bolster it by implying that any disagreement from others must reflect some kind of defect in the person rather than their argument.

Examples she has used include, suggesting that people have been sleeping for 14 years, suffering from amnesia or that they don't understand the difference between general elections and local elections.

The last example is interesting, because Pianopiece has demonstrated that she is ignorant of the difference between local elections and elections of the devolved nations.

The focus is more immediate, will Starmer go after Thursday and how soon will someone else mount a challenge.

I think it will push him over the edge along with the Mandelson situation.

I’d like to see Burnham make a move, apparently he now has good support in Westminster and MPs willing to orchestrate a situation for him to become an MP and put Bev Craig up for Manchester mayor from council leader.

Not sure what would happen in the meantime though, or how quickly all of that could potentially move.

I just can’t see Burnham being able to get into Westminster to run for Labour leader unless Starmer manages to cling on for a year or more. The machinery’s just too slow. And who’d give up a safe enough Labour seat to let Burnham in anyway? (Barring illness or scandal.)

A sitting MP in a rock solid Labour seat would need to be offered something - like a peerage - but to get it they’d have to gamble on Burnham winning the seat and then winning a leadership challenge. Hardly much of an offer.

And that’s without internal Labour skirmishing. They’ve been pretty effective at nobbling each other recently.

I did think this too until I read this piece yesterday, I totally agree I didn’t think it would be realistic in a timescale but if he has enough support maybe it is?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/01/andy-burnham-westminster-return-plan-within-weeks

I'm not sure the timings would work for Burnham. Because he'd have to be an MP to be put forward for a leadership contest, and I can't see Starmer lasting long enough to allow this to - potentially - happen. I'm pretty sure a by-election would take a while (this link says the Writ is usually issued within 3 months of the vacancy coming free, with the by-election being held 21-27 days after: https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/by-elections/).

Depending on how long after Starmer is forced out resigns, the deadline for standing to be new Labour leader could be before Burnham is elected (assuming he is).

It's going to be a close run thing (and why Burnham needed to stand in G&D, to be certain of timings).

Jinx, @DenizenOfAisleOfShame!

I'll read the link now to see why I'm wrong! 🤣🤣

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It’s an interesting piece, especially given where it appeared.

But I’m still not convinced. There’s a lot of what looks like puff from different Labour camps in it. And I’d be inclined to think Starmer would try to scuttle Burnham at all costs. Look what he did with the NEC! Going early would be one way to frustrate Burnham’s ambitions.

As for not looking like the Tories at war, that ship sailed months ago. Labour’s consumed with plots, deals and back-stabbing.

I agree with everything you've said, @DenizenOfAisleOfShame.

But not it seems educated enough to know that even politicians have to pay tax. Has she paid it yet?

I think she claims she's waiting on HMRC to decide, though Stamp Duty is one you're meant to work out and pay yourself, so I'd have expected her to get the specialist advice she dodged previously and just pay it if owed.

It’s not a general election so not as important I guess? But yes - any election where Labour are absolutely decimated will be interesting to watch. KS won’t leave tho - he will blame anyone including his grandmother for the results if they are bad.

I don't know who I will vote for. I know it's a cliché but they literally are all as bad as each other at the moment.

Has the HMRC investigation concluded yet?