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babyproblems · Yesterday 18:56

The decor inside is pretty bland imo, no character; the exterior is naice. It’s a good price point or seems it - where I used to live in the uk that would probably be £2mil +!!! It’s probably middle class by many people’s view

Bikergran · Yesterday 19:08

Nobody lives in a "middle-class house". They live in a house, and its status is determined by its occupants, be they common as muck or the creme de la creme. It wouldn't be a MCH if the garden was strewn with a discarded half-burnt sofa, broken plastic toys, fag ends and several used nappies, and it wouldn't be a MCH if it had a carriage and four and a butler......🤣

nOlives · Yesterday 19:12

OP I have read all your posts and you don't say how your vote works.
YAVVVU to put a vote but ask an "is it this or that" question and not say which is which.

Cocktailglass · Yesterday 19:12

I would say big expensive house so owners must be well off. This could be due to lottery win, having a well paid job abroad on a rig, inheritance, professional jobs (not thay oil rig isn't but you get paid a lot more for all levels).

Assuming middle class probably in sense of price and area.

Doubledenim305 · Yesterday 19:16

I like it. Doesn't look tacky or anything. I don't like new builds particularly but yeah I think it looks expensive. Id imagine a new range rover in the drive ...that's the kind of image they want to project.

Magnoliafarm · Yesterday 19:26

Totally depends on the area. Where I live you would have to be named in the panama papers to afford that kind of house. Also depends on the middle class trends in your area. In my city many middle class people would baulk at a new build unless it was a certified passivhaus ecohome made of organically grown straw bales with triple glazing installed by artisans on a living wage...

tommyhoundmum · Yesterday 19:43

I live in a one bedroom flat with a small additional room that cannont be called a bedroom unless you are the local council. It was last valued at £700k and I paid £8k for it and have had a mortgage since 1976. I am working class.

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 19:46

It's a very 'standard' looking Redrow home typical of their estates all over the country. I would expect someone in the middle to live in it, class is irrelevant.

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 19:56

Yes, middle class, not upper middle but middle class. You would have to be on something more than a standard working class income to afford this .

Rhaenys · Yesterday 20:13

Bikergran · Yesterday 19:08

Nobody lives in a "middle-class house". They live in a house, and its status is determined by its occupants, be they common as muck or the creme de la creme. It wouldn't be a MCH if the garden was strewn with a discarded half-burnt sofa, broken plastic toys, fag ends and several used nappies, and it wouldn't be a MCH if it had a carriage and four and a butler......🤣

I wouldn’t expect someone who didn’t have a career job to be able to live in a house like this, so in that sense I do think there is such a thing as ‘middle class houses’.

Even social housing of a similar size and age doesn’t look like this.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 20:14

tommyhoundmum · Yesterday 19:43

I live in a one bedroom flat with a small additional room that cannont be called a bedroom unless you are the local council. It was last valued at £700k and I paid £8k for it and have had a mortgage since 1976. I am working class.

You haven’t paid it off yet?

tommyhoundmum · Yesterday 20:17

BunnyLake · Yesterday 20:14

You haven’t paid it off yet?

No, I keep remortgaging to improve the place. It's not a palace but is quite nice.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 20:18

Bikergran · Yesterday 19:08

Nobody lives in a "middle-class house". They live in a house, and its status is determined by its occupants, be they common as muck or the creme de la creme. It wouldn't be a MCH if the garden was strewn with a discarded half-burnt sofa, broken plastic toys, fag ends and several used nappies, and it wouldn't be a MCH if it had a carriage and four and a butler......🤣

A house, regardless of occupants, or it may even be empty, can certainly give off an air of being middle or working or upper class.

No one is walking through The Bishop’s Avenue thinking it’s a council estate.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 20:19

tommyhoundmum · Yesterday 20:17

No, I keep remortgaging to improve the place. It's not a palace but is quite nice.

Ah I see.

Serenissimissima · Yesterday 20:57

Butchyrestingface · Yesterday 18:21

Why? Would the upper classes have an indoor heated pool?

Swimming pond

LaughingCat · Yesterday 21:14

Rooms are small, back garden’s pokey - like most new-ish builds, they’ve tried to cram too much into too small a footprint. It’s not bad but I wouldn’t pay that price for it - I was shocked by the high prices and relatively poor quality of new builds when we were looking. But then, I’m northern so got our 5 bed detached with a massive garden in a lovely market town for less than half that 😂 Southern prices are insane!

pinck · Yesterday 21:58

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 08:13

So when they uncluttered their house, did that involve replacing all their real plants with plastic ones? And taking down any interesting art or prints and replacing them with shit from the Range? Why didn't they unclutter the room with all the computer monitors and plastic crates?

I think usage of "realtor" rather than estate agent tells us all we need to know about who's stupid here. I imagine I've touched a nerve because you have no books in your house. Books aren't clutter and don't need to be removed for marketing photos 😂

What the fuck are you even on about? I’m not saying books are clutter in general, but when you’re trying to showcase a space, yeah—they go. That’s literally how staging works. You strip out anything personal so people focus on the house, not your life. Would you leave dog beds, laundry, or random piles of stuff out? No. Because then it looks lived-in in a way that doesn’t sell well.

Taking out dog beds and kids’ toys doesn’t mean you don’t have them, and removing books doesn’t mean you don’t read—it means you understand basic marketing. It is genuinely embarrassing that you think a marketing brochure is a window into someone’s soul. Also, houses are often staged after the owner has already moved out because not everyone is so financially squeezed that they have to live in their old house while selling it like you probably would.

When my parents sold their multi-million dollar property—in an area far beyond the reach of most people on this thread—their realtor swapped out even their curated furniture for neutral pieces, recognizing that my parents’ personal style is not universal, only keeping a few things like their Hermès armchair and a $30k grey sofa in the basement to serve as neutral anchors. I did the exact same thing when I sold my last house; it’s standard practice for anyone who actually knows what they’re doing in a high-end market.

ETA: I had a quick browse on Rightmove and yeah… if you’re used to looking at low-rent listings where people leave all their shit out and take photos on an iPhone mid-chaos, then I get why actual professional staging is confusing to you. You’re literally too small-time to understand the market you're judging.

And yes—realtor. I’m American, calm down. AIBU genuinely has to be about 90% rage-bait at this point, because there’s no way this many people are truly this far out of their depth 😭

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 22:12

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 19:46

It's a very 'standard' looking Redrow home typical of their estates all over the country. I would expect someone in the middle to live in it, class is irrelevant.

It’s much,much bigger than the average new house!

Zov · Yesterday 22:17

Can people please stop calling each other stupid? It's so rude, people just have different opinions and views. No-one is wrong, or right, or stupid.

Peace man! ☮ Grin

Wordsmithery · Yesterday 22:26

A house cannot be middle class. Its occupants could be, though - or any other class, for that matter. If you mean is it a house where affluent people are likely to live, then my answer is yes. But you can't draw any interpretations about their so-called class or background (whatever class means these days).

Mumstheword1983 · Yesterday 22:32

It's a nice house. Good room sizes. Plenty of them (for a modern property). Not sure about middle class as it's not really about the house is it but middle earners definitely.

Mumstheword1983 · Yesterday 22:34

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 22:12

It’s much,much bigger than the average new house!

Yes I agree. Most new builds near me are all 10ft by 10ft bedrooms (and at least one single room) and smaller gardens than this.

Charlize43 · Yesterday 22:52

House looks pretty from the outside, but the interior looks a bit Argos to me.

ThePoliteLion · Yesterday 23:11

structurally it’s a lovely big house. It says “prosperous family” to me. The furniture is bland, tick box contemporary, cheap-ish looking. Not what I’d call stylish at all. But that’s not the question we were asked, I know.

ProfessorBinturong · Yesterday 23:35

pinck · Yesterday 21:58

What the fuck are you even on about? I’m not saying books are clutter in general, but when you’re trying to showcase a space, yeah—they go. That’s literally how staging works. You strip out anything personal so people focus on the house, not your life. Would you leave dog beds, laundry, or random piles of stuff out? No. Because then it looks lived-in in a way that doesn’t sell well.

Taking out dog beds and kids’ toys doesn’t mean you don’t have them, and removing books doesn’t mean you don’t read—it means you understand basic marketing. It is genuinely embarrassing that you think a marketing brochure is a window into someone’s soul. Also, houses are often staged after the owner has already moved out because not everyone is so financially squeezed that they have to live in their old house while selling it like you probably would.

When my parents sold their multi-million dollar property—in an area far beyond the reach of most people on this thread—their realtor swapped out even their curated furniture for neutral pieces, recognizing that my parents’ personal style is not universal, only keeping a few things like their Hermès armchair and a $30k grey sofa in the basement to serve as neutral anchors. I did the exact same thing when I sold my last house; it’s standard practice for anyone who actually knows what they’re doing in a high-end market.

ETA: I had a quick browse on Rightmove and yeah… if you’re used to looking at low-rent listings where people leave all their shit out and take photos on an iPhone mid-chaos, then I get why actual professional staging is confusing to you. You’re literally too small-time to understand the market you're judging.

And yes—realtor. I’m American, calm down. AIBU genuinely has to be about 90% rage-bait at this point, because there’s no way this many people are truly this far out of their depth 😭

Staging isn't really a UK thing. At any level. Certainly not to anything like the extent Americans go for. Our system for selling houses is completely different from yours, as are the expectations for how to go about it.

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