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20thCenturyFecks · Yesterday 12:22

Nice house, shame about the hot tub 😬

Stressedandgrey · Yesterday 12:36

I'd love to see the homes of some of the people posting bitchy comments about this house.

Do you all live in sprawling country manor houses? Or prime central London period property? I doubt it.

StripedVase · Yesterday 12:37

Nothing like a thread where the OP doesn't reveal quite what the intention of her question is and so people are forced to try and guess exactly how best to be snide, defensive and paranoid about it 😆😆

Whysnothingsimple · Yesterday 12:45

Stressedandgrey · Yesterday 12:36

I'd love to see the homes of some of the people posting bitchy comments about this house.

Do you all live in sprawling country manor houses? Or prime central London period property? I doubt it.

The house signifies a certain type of person lives there. If the poster had put any other house up and asked “what kind of person lives here” comments would have been similar. It’s not about where you live, it’s about whether it’s to your taste and the stereotypes it evokes.

Stressedandgrey · Yesterday 12:53

Whysnothingsimple · Yesterday 12:45

The house signifies a certain type of person lives there. If the poster had put any other house up and asked “what kind of person lives here” comments would have been similar. It’s not about where you live, it’s about whether it’s to your taste and the stereotypes it evokes.

Nonsense. In the real world people don't just buy a house because of their taste. Budget, proximity to family and friends, transport, schools, bedroom space, work from home space, etc all factor in.

Not everyone has the time or inclination to spend huge amounts of time 'styling' their house. Just like people from all class background have different levels of interest in fashion, makeup etc.

Some people are just so desperate to be 'better' than others it's embarrassing. And definitely not a trait I would associate with some who has generations of wealth and 'class' behind them.

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 12:53

Stressedandgrey · Yesterday 12:36

I'd love to see the homes of some of the people posting bitchy comments about this house.

Do you all live in sprawling country manor houses? Or prime central London period property? I doubt it.

The question was is this house middle class, and people have responded. Are people not allowed to have an opinion on class markers unless they live in big houses?

Stressedandgrey · Yesterday 12:57

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 12:53

The question was is this house middle class, and people have responded. Are people not allowed to have an opinion on class markers unless they live in big houses?

You can respond without insulting the homeowners. Who by the way have not invited scrutiny of their home.
They have innocently put it up for sale for view by potential buyers, not so a nest of vipers on MN can bitch about their decor!

user4903456342 · Yesterday 13:01

Stressedandgrey · Yesterday 12:36

I'd love to see the homes of some of the people posting bitchy comments about this house.

Do you all live in sprawling country manor houses? Or prime central London period property? I doubt it.

I do live in a prime Central London period property. We travel, have books and musical instruments and one-off art, but also quite a large tv and a kitchen island.

The house was, at one point, a collection of incredibly depressing council-funded rooms (not even flats) owned by an absolutely appalling landlord.

So I think we're naff middle class and our house is gentry that fell on hard times and is now nouveau riche.

@StripedVase I think it's possible that the OP is the same person who has started some quite strange, now-deleted property threads in the last few days.

SingingHinny · Yesterday 13:03

Stressedandgrey · Yesterday 12:53

Nonsense. In the real world people don't just buy a house because of their taste. Budget, proximity to family and friends, transport, schools, bedroom space, work from home space, etc all factor in.

Not everyone has the time or inclination to spend huge amounts of time 'styling' their house. Just like people from all class background have different levels of interest in fashion, makeup etc.

Some people are just so desperate to be 'better' than others it's embarrassing. And definitely not a trait I would associate with some who has generations of wealth and 'class' behind them.

But middle-class people often don't have 'generations of wealth and "class" behind them'. They could be lower-middle, one generation of being a rung above the WC and desperate to cling to whatever constitutes MC status for them. And yes, some LMC people are absolutely desperate to be 'better', in social class terms, than others.

It's why Hyacinth 'Bouquet' Bucket is a comedy monster, a crashing aspirational LMC snob trying to overcome her WC origins, her acquired accent buckling under pressure, referring to her modest house as 'The Residence', making her married surname more 'genteel', trying to give the impression she has domestic staff by answering the phone with 'The lady of the house speaking' etc etc.

MasterBeth · Yesterday 13:24

Incredible snobbery and ignorance on this thread.

Around 45% of people self-report as middle-class.

So middle-class covers a huge range of people. Including those with hot tubs and Live, Laugh, Love ornaments.

And working class people read books, travel and play musical instruments.

It's almost as if those terms have no clear distinction any more!

manateeplushie · Yesterday 13:32

The existence of an outdoor office shed answers your question - the real question is - do they have enough screens in it?

LemonTyger · Yesterday 13:35

I think being able to buy a house at all makes you middle class!
At that price, I’d think upper middle class.

WhatWouldDianeLockhartDo · Yesterday 13:38

The house is massive compared to your average new build. It would obviously be the home of a person with much more money than average. Even if you can get a long mortgage at a great rate, this house is unaffordable to many. Why is this not obvious to you? If you can afford it, but it. It’s gorgeous. But for the love of god, redecorate.

Nevergotdivorced · Yesterday 13:51

Why does everything have to be put in to a class?
It is tedious.

BeanQuisine · Yesterday 13:51

MasterBeth · Yesterday 13:24

Incredible snobbery and ignorance on this thread.

Around 45% of people self-report as middle-class.

So middle-class covers a huge range of people. Including those with hot tubs and Live, Laugh, Love ornaments.

And working class people read books, travel and play musical instruments.

It's almost as if those terms have no clear distinction any more!

I'm sure there are very many working class people who travel far more than I ever do. I'm of middle class background and a confirmed homebody, like most of my friends.

Haven't been overseas for many years. I'm happy to do my travelling in books and documentaries etc.

MandemChickenShop · Yesterday 13:51

Perfectly nice house.

It's only 7 years old so isn't going to have the character of an older property but so what, it's not pretending to be something it's not either.

SingedSoul · Yesterday 13:58

SpaDaysForAll · 30/04/2026 21:46

It looks like a self employed electricians home

Is this an insult?

MaybeToxic · Yesterday 14:03

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:42

Not at all.

Firstly - getting into a discussion about social class is doomed to failure - no-one can agree, and it's so, so subtle and nuanced that it's almost impossible to talk intelligently about.

Secondly - I know lots of poorly-paid academics who live in tiny flats and houses crammed with books and nice objects and pictures which express education, sophistication and cultural awareness. That's solid-state middle-class in my book.

Also - lots of people in 6 bed houses with about 30 bathrooms who don't know their arse from their elbow in terms of culture. I don't think they're middle class. They're rich, and that's different.

Interesting. I agree. Calling people working middle and upper class are categories that don't even really exist in modern society anymore.

What is OP even asking? "Will people think I'm 'something' if I own a house like this". Who cares what people think? Live in a cute little 2 bed terraced house. Or live in a huge 5 bed house with 4 bathrooms.... Neither means you're any more likely to be middle class, because middle class isn't really a thing now.

Forthesteps · Yesterday 14:17

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:34

To me, a middle-class house has lots of bookshelves and William Morris prints everywhere, and either no telly or a very small, ancient one.

It's a bit scruffy and most of the furniture is inherited brown stuff or bought from antique shops and eBay.

This is my house! 😂😂

Mine too. Also half the size of the subject of the post.

AfternoonVanessa · Yesterday 14:32

A friend was selling a Mayfair house and in the comments in the newspaper feature were observations about her ancient television.
She's definitely upper middle class.

I really don't care what decor a potential house has. If the size and location suits that's fine by me. I like changing it.

CherryOakAsh · Yesterday 14:45

It looks like a lovely house - and right next to the Peak District too. A double thumbs up! Very good value. You wouldn't get that much house for your money where I am!

JLou08 · Yesterday 14:50

Not many working class people could afford it.
I find your question odd. What do you want people to think about you? Is class status very important to you? I'm really intrigued as to your actual background. What was your financial situation growing up? Is it different now?

Spooky2000 · Yesterday 15:42

Honest to God, what is up with posters these days? It's a simple question that the OP asks - answer it and leave it there. No need to make snide remarks and if I'm honest, these make me think that you're a thoroughly unpleasant person who gets a kick out of getting a reaction. Sad that you need negative attention to make you feel validated. Particularly on the net. 😐

It looks middle class to me.

There, see? Easy. If the Op wants further info, she'll ask.

AfternoonVanessa · Yesterday 15:54

@Spooky2000 there was a thread this week about changing a kitchen to encourage a house sale. The OP had had no luck. It didn't take long for the kickings to come out including searching the house through Google.

Anonymouseposter · Yesterday 15:54

I don’t agree with some people’s definition of middle class. Middle class is a very broad category. Not all middle class people have inherited furniture and cultured interests
This is a middle class house. Many middle class people couldn’t, in fact,afford it.
I’m from a working class background and inherited nothing. If I said I was working class on here people would argue that I am not because I have a degree and had a professional job.
I feel sorry for the people who put their house on Rightmove and ended up with a lot of unpleasant people criticising their taste. Although they have a nice house and I think they’ll get the asking price so they’ll be okay.

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