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MaybeToxic · Yesterday 09:30

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:12

@worldshottestmom @BurnTheWholeThingDown I don’t get your replies?

Because you have to be joking... It's a massive, modern house. If it isn't middle class then it's what.... working class??? 🙄 🙄 🙄
Please. It's far above the average house price and huge. This post has no point. Like the posts that say "is £180k salary a lot of money because I am not sure it is - I barely scrape by each month 😭" ... Ridiculous.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 09:30

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:12

@worldshottestmom @BurnTheWholeThingDown I don’t get your replies?

What do you mean by is it run of the mill?

It looks like a middle class house probably owned by professionals, to me. I lived on a council estate growing up but a few streets away were houses like this and they were where my middle class classmates lived.

FruAashild · Yesterday 09:31

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:29

I’m looking at a similar house (in a slightly different area) and I suppose wanted to know what people would think of me if I lived somewhere like that! I know it’s shallow!

But what you are seeing is mainly a response to the decor. I do think you are being very unfair to the owner of this house though, they presumably have done very well for themselves to be able to afford a house twice the average cost and size. The class markers don't detract from that achievement.

Buy a house you love in a location you like and then you won't care what other people think of it because it will be your home.

SingingHinny · Yesterday 09:31

MaybeToxic · Yesterday 09:30

Because you have to be joking... It's a massive, modern house. If it isn't middle class then it's what.... working class??? 🙄 🙄 🙄
Please. It's far above the average house price and huge. This post has no point. Like the posts that say "is £180k salary a lot of money because I am not sure it is - I barely scrape by each month 😭" ... Ridiculous.

But that has to do with income, not social class.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 09:34

bohemianwrapsody · 30/04/2026 21:15

Nothing middle class about that house. No books, art, evidence of travels, musical instruments...just an awful lot of fake plants.

So if you walked past it in the street you’d mistake it for a council house?

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:34

To me, a middle-class house has lots of bookshelves and William Morris prints everywhere, and either no telly or a very small, ancient one.

It's a bit scruffy and most of the furniture is inherited brown stuff or bought from antique shops and eBay.

This is my house! 😂😂

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 09:35

Anonymouseposter · Yesterday 09:29

I’m sure that whoever lives in that house will be very comfortable and happy and enjoy their hot tub. I don’t think they’ll be too concerned what anyone else thinks. It’s sad when people have to curate an image and display evidence of their travels etc.
The happiest people suit themselves.

But the post wasn't asking whether the people in the house are happy, it was asking whether the house is middle class or not.

Middle class markers such as books, things on the wall which aren't mass produced, pianos, knick knacks from travels are just that, markers. They're not people trying to curate a particular image.

MaybeToxic · Yesterday 09:36

SingingHinny · Yesterday 09:31

But that has to do with income, not social class.

So how do you judge a house on social class? By postcode, surely?

BunnyLake · Yesterday 09:36

OP maybe you should have said judging by the exterior, because too many posters are thinking you mean the interior, which I’m assuming you don’t!

Crikeyalmighty · Yesterday 09:41

Some very old fashioned ideas of middle class- I actually wonder rather than middle class if the poster means middle income - ! I have lots of books, thousands of records, stuff from travels, we rent though even in early 60s , have a business and I’m pretty sure would be called middle class! and even though I’m not keen on estates I really like this house, just needs personalising a bit - I think some of you don’t think it can be middle class unless it’s what I call a mouse special, Edwardian:Victorian, messy, wallpaper, roll top ancient baths etc -

SingingHinny · Yesterday 09:41

MaybeToxic · Yesterday 09:36

So how do you judge a house on social class? By postcode, surely?

No, that's income again If you have the money, you can buy yourself a house in the most expensive 'old money' areas.

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:42

MaybeToxic · Yesterday 09:36

So how do you judge a house on social class? By postcode, surely?

Not at all.

Firstly - getting into a discussion about social class is doomed to failure - no-one can agree, and it's so, so subtle and nuanced that it's almost impossible to talk intelligently about.

Secondly - I know lots of poorly-paid academics who live in tiny flats and houses crammed with books and nice objects and pictures which express education, sophistication and cultural awareness. That's solid-state middle-class in my book.

Also - lots of people in 6 bed houses with about 30 bathrooms who don't know their arse from their elbow in terms of culture. I don't think they're middle class. They're rich, and that's different.

Anonymouseposter · Yesterday 09:42

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 09:35

But the post wasn't asking whether the people in the house are happy, it was asking whether the house is middle class or not.

Middle class markers such as books, things on the wall which aren't mass produced, pianos, knick knacks from travels are just that, markers. They're not people trying to curate a particular image.

I have things on the wall that aren’t mass produced, books, Knick backs, handmade tapestries and even a spaniel. I can nowhere near afford a house like that. It looks very comfortable, easy to clean etc. OP is worried what people would think if she bought a similar one, it’s a shame she cares.

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 09:43

BunnyLake · Yesterday 09:36

OP maybe you should have said judging by the exterior, because too many posters are thinking you mean the interior, which I’m assuming you don’t!

People have assumed she means the interior, because there's little way of judging social class by looking at the exterior of the house, especially if not familiar with the area. Tradesmen doing well might live in great big houses. Academics might live in a tiny scruffy terrace. You're conflating money with social class.

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:43

Crikeyalmighty · Yesterday 09:41

Some very old fashioned ideas of middle class- I actually wonder rather than middle class if the poster means middle income - ! I have lots of books, thousands of records, stuff from travels, we rent though even in early 60s , have a business and I’m pretty sure would be called middle class! and even though I’m not keen on estates I really like this house, just needs personalising a bit - I think some of you don’t think it can be middle class unless it’s what I call a mouse special, Edwardian:Victorian, messy, wallpaper, roll top ancient baths etc -

Exactly!

And definitely no kitchen islands...

Nitgel · Yesterday 09:43

Has anyone mentioned the lack of beat up old faithful Volvo yet

mondaytosunday · Yesterday 09:55

The decor is dull (so much grey) and not sure what criteria you mean? Price? Size? Neighbourhood? That size house would cost about £3m near me if not more, but really it has a bit of working class made good vibe about it, IYSWIM, like someone’s idea of what middle class looks like.

Divebar2021 · Yesterday 09:55

It’s not really decorated to my taste but it definitely could be. I’m not a fan of modern estates either but this house has a lot more
space than my 1920’s house and I’d love a utility room.

AfternoonVanessa · Yesterday 09:59

My children grew up in a large country house. It was a nightmare. Very expensive, cold but had a library!
A few years ago we bought our first modern house. That has been hard to sell. I now believe the majority of sales are three bed semis.

Fwiw @Inburess I was told to put my antiques in storage and buy/ hire some modern furniture!
Around here it's shiny handless kitchens and grey polypropylene carpets.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 10:02

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 09:43

People have assumed she means the interior, because there's little way of judging social class by looking at the exterior of the house, especially if not familiar with the area. Tradesmen doing well might live in great big houses. Academics might live in a tiny scruffy terrace. You're conflating money with social class.

Again though I think she means judging by the exterior, not by who or what is inside.

No one is going to think this was a purpose built council house or a house built for a king.

Undertheeaves · Yesterday 10:14

Ok so I thought the OP was a weird question but nothing prepared me for the weirdness of the replies.

It looks like a lovely house, it's big, clean and tidy and I actually like the decor, it's got a bit of colour going on. For most people in the real world £625k is a huge amount to spend on a house.

I am not sure if that makes me lacking in taste and culture and class, I think it might. Excellent news.

circusrunaways · Yesterday 10:25

what I will say about property in the UK is that there are a range of factors that can blur the relationship between class and who lives where/size of house

The main dividing factor is age

SixtySomething · Yesterday 10:25

LaburnumAnagyroides · Yesterday 09:14

Oh well, your loss.
The women in my family tend to be a lot more interesting than the men.

😆😂

circusrunaways · Yesterday 10:25

To me, a middle-class house has lots of bookshelves and William Morris prints everywhere, and either no telly or a very small, ancient one.

Even the aristocracy have large flat screens!

Grabity · Yesterday 10:27

There’s a huge amount of insecurity on this thread.