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Secondtrythebest · 30/04/2026 14:35

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For sure, for sure

Princejoffyjaffur · 30/04/2026 14:36

I fully support the police in this action.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 14:37

Princejoffyjaffur · 30/04/2026 14:36

I fully support the police in this action.

Most sensible people do.

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KTheGrey · 30/04/2026 14:38

Secondtrythebest · 30/04/2026 14:21

It is not and of course we are taught to run away from danger whenever possible - but aiming for the head is counterproductive in taking someone down

Your instruction here is doubly irrelevant - nothing to do with the police’s obligation to safeguard the public plus he was already down but hadn’t dropped the knife. They were trying to get him to drop the weapon.

Secondtrythebest · 30/04/2026 14:39

KTheGrey · 30/04/2026 14:38

Your instruction here is doubly irrelevant - nothing to do with the police’s obligation to safeguard the public plus he was already down but hadn’t dropped the knife. They were trying to get him to drop the weapon.

Yeah OK sure

Glitterbiscuits · 30/04/2026 14:42

I’m very proud of those police officers.
We should be bloody grateful to them!
Polanksi is a dickhead.

MulberryBrandy · 30/04/2026 14:45

Princejoffyjaffur · 30/04/2026 14:36

I fully support the police in this action.

Yes, thank you. I agree they followed the correct procedure in this particular incident where they were not armed but used the taser. The police and the government are trying to balance a very difficult climate, caused by international events and exacerbated by individuals, and I think we should support them.

KTheGrey · 30/04/2026 14:49

KTheGrey · 30/04/2026 14:38

Your instruction here is doubly irrelevant - nothing to do with the police’s obligation to safeguard the public plus he was already down but hadn’t dropped the knife. They were trying to get him to drop the weapon.

PS I was taught not to try any kind of defence unless I could incapacitate the attacker - best not to piss off somebody you could reasonably assume was happy to hurt you.

PropertyD · 30/04/2026 14:59

For those who trying to bleat they shouldnt have kicked him. This madman had already tried to kill two people.

What if your child was at risk by someone who wouldnt give up knife or something strapped to him that could kill all those around him. Would you still want lesser containment just to make you feel better about yourself.

If this had been the US he would have been shot dead.

As it is he will be looked after and funded by tax payers and whilst I wouldnt have any issue for him to be shipped back to Somalia it just wont happen. Appeal after appeal, various courses offered to him to ensure that he changes his views.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 15:15

Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 14:05

He's a known terrorist its nothing to do with racism from police. He on tge other hand is a racist terrorist who had just stabbed two Jewish men because they are Jewish and still had hid knife.
As for the mh of a racist terrorist give over.
Honestly why are you playing the racism card to defend a racist terrorist

I dont care about the mental health of a terrorist. But I care about the physical health of someone under arrest. As should most of us.

There was absolutely no need to kick him in the head. Its shameful policing. That said, I cant get too worked up because I care more about the two innocent men who were stabbed.

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 15:17

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 15:15

I dont care about the mental health of a terrorist. But I care about the physical health of someone under arrest. As should most of us.

There was absolutely no need to kick him in the head. Its shameful policing. That said, I cant get too worked up because I care more about the two innocent men who were stabbed.

Again, how would you attempt to physically dislodge a knife from the hands of a terrorist without putting yourself in danger? Walk me through it.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 15:18

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 15:15

I dont care about the mental health of a terrorist. But I care about the physical health of someone under arrest. As should most of us.

There was absolutely no need to kick him in the head. Its shameful policing. That said, I cant get too worked up because I care more about the two innocent men who were stabbed.

Most of us don't care.

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BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:18

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 15:17

Again, how would you attempt to physically dislodge a knife from the hands of a terrorist without putting yourself in danger? Walk me through it.

Stamp on his wrist.

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 15:18

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:18

Stamp on his wrist.

His hands were tucked under his chest.

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 15:19

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:18

Stamp on his wrist.

His hands were underneath his body. He was refusing to show them.

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:19

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 15:18

His hands were tucked under his chest.

Then there was no need to kick his head.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 15:20

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:19

Then there was no need to kick his head.

😂

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ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 15:20

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:19

Then there was no need to kick his head.

What?

Are you taking the piss?

Everanewbie · 30/04/2026 15:21

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:19

Then there was no need to kick his head.

No. If armed officers were there it should have been blown off, not kicked.

ChamonixMountainBum · 30/04/2026 15:21

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 15:15

I dont care about the mental health of a terrorist. But I care about the physical health of someone under arrest. As should most of us.

There was absolutely no need to kick him in the head. Its shameful policing. That said, I cant get too worked up because I care more about the two innocent men who were stabbed.

He was not 'under arrest', he was in the process of being restrained and disarmed as he was still a threat to the public. Once subdued, handcuffed and no longer a threat I imagine he had his rights read to him and the reason for his arrest.

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 15:21

BellaBlackberry83 · 30/04/2026 14:22

This is the beautiful example of exactly what I meant. This gentleman believes that the force used against him was unlawful. So what has he done? He has gone to the Independent Office for Police Conduct, who will either do a full investigation themselves, or order that it is done locally by the force (with the caveat that he can always appeal back to them if he disagrees with the outcome).

After too many horrendous incidents, we have many checks and balances over police power in this country. Do police get it wrong? Yes, and frequently. Should they be brought to account? Of course. But police do a difficult and frightening job (I could hear the fear in that officer's voice) and, having observed police officers in other jurisdictions, we really do not know how good we have it.

I am not a police officer, by the way.

Agree with your posts, so the earlier one too.

Plus how much do police consider someone on a stabbing spree could have an explosive device and need their hands away from their body.

ainsleysanob · 30/04/2026 15:22

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:19

Then there was no need to kick his head.

No I agree. They could have just tickled the silly little billy in his little ribbies instead couldn’t they.

In an ideal world he’d have been shot.

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 15:23

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:19

Then there was no need to kick his head.

His hands were tucked under his chest gripping the knife. How are you safely dislodging the knife, Jackie Chan?

ArtAngel · 30/04/2026 15:23

Bloody hell.

Imagine your son, DH or brother (for in this case the police were all men) had tackled a murderous man, wielding a knife, still trying to stab the police, a man who may well have had explosives or other weapons, imagine your loved one had put themself in harm's way to bring him down before he stabbed someone else...and the public (advised by a martial arts hobbyist) are all up in arms criticising rather than praising.

Well done that member of the public, too.

Of course the police must be accountable, had they beat him up in the van on the way to the cells, it would have been unacceptable, but the know it all bleating about what they should or shouldn't have done in the one minute they had to apprehend and disarm him is just ridiculous.

I am a member of the public the police protect - I don't want them flicking through a training manual or doing calming exercises before deciding to tackle a man with a knife intent on killing me.

Well done those police officers, well done and thank you.

olivepicanto · 30/04/2026 15:24

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 15:15

I dont care about the mental health of a terrorist. But I care about the physical health of someone under arrest. As should most of us.

There was absolutely no need to kick him in the head. Its shameful policing. That said, I cant get too worked up because I care more about the two innocent men who were stabbed.

You cannot be serious. Should they have given him a cup of tea and asked him
nicely to hand over the knife?

he had been tasered and was still not co-operating.

jeez

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