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Shocking Britain

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ShockingBritain · 30/04/2026 08:22

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxplq92rx1o

The crime wave from overseas gang led, drug dealing, money laundering, fake cigarettes, etc dominating our High Streets.

Mandy has short dark hair, is wearing a dark textured jacket and small drop earrings, and is turned slightly to one side with the face in profile.

'We will kill you and burn your house': Council staff under attack from High Street gangs

Dozens of Trading Standards officers describe intimidation from criminals running mini-marts and vape shops.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxplq92rx1o

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Monty36 · 30/04/2026 13:16

AvacadoChic · 30/04/2026 13:13

I asked a friend who works for the police why these places aren't dealt with and how they are allowed to continue. She said that these places are run by large gangs who have much, much more money, resources and people than the police have. She said the police simply can't keep up with them, they are 20 steps ahead of the police on everything.

You do not shrug your shoulders and give up. That is the function of the police. To make some inroads. To seek to stop it. No matter how small.
Saying it is all too hard so we do not try is unacceptable.

corlan · 30/04/2026 13:20

Absolutely obvious where I live.Long established shops close down saying they can no longer afford to run and are replaced by mini marts or vape shops that rarely have customers but somehow manage to stay in business.
It's not just that money laundering aspect It contributes to breakdown of community cohesion - the high street is not a great place to visit any more. It also adds to the anti immigrant sentiment as most of these shops appear to be run by recent immigrants.
Sick of it and can't understand why it isn't dealt with.

meisafairy · 30/04/2026 13:33

corlan · 30/04/2026 13:20

Absolutely obvious where I live.Long established shops close down saying they can no longer afford to run and are replaced by mini marts or vape shops that rarely have customers but somehow manage to stay in business.
It's not just that money laundering aspect It contributes to breakdown of community cohesion - the high street is not a great place to visit any more. It also adds to the anti immigrant sentiment as most of these shops appear to be run by recent immigrants.
Sick of it and can't understand why it isn't dealt with.

So if an immigrant doesn’t work they’re bad, if they open a mini mart they’re bad???? Make your mind up!
And no I’m not on about the obvious laundering shops.
How dare a non white person run a business because you’re sick of it.
I'm Born and bred in the uk to parents who came here legally in the 60s, grandfather died in the war alongside British troops.
Sick to death of divisive rhetoric being normalised.
@mumsnet
needs to get on top of the racist drivel they allow.

SpaceRaccoon · 30/04/2026 13:36

meisafairy · 30/04/2026 13:33

So if an immigrant doesn’t work they’re bad, if they open a mini mart they’re bad???? Make your mind up!
And no I’m not on about the obvious laundering shops.
How dare a non white person run a business because you’re sick of it.
I'm Born and bred in the uk to parents who came here legally in the 60s, grandfather died in the war alongside British troops.
Sick to death of divisive rhetoric being normalised.
@mumsnet
needs to get on top of the racist drivel they allow.

Yes if they open a money-laundering outfit they're bad.
I'm also an immigrant, and I don't take any of this personally - I work and pay taxes and I've never broken a UK law.

corlan · 30/04/2026 13:37

meisafairy · 30/04/2026 13:33

So if an immigrant doesn’t work they’re bad, if they open a mini mart they’re bad???? Make your mind up!
And no I’m not on about the obvious laundering shops.
How dare a non white person run a business because you’re sick of it.
I'm Born and bred in the uk to parents who came here legally in the 60s, grandfather died in the war alongside British troops.
Sick to death of divisive rhetoric being normalised.
@mumsnet
needs to get on top of the racist drivel they allow.

It's very obvious which shops are fronts. Maybe you're lucky enough not to live in an area it's affected - I'm not

74username74 · 30/04/2026 13:41

It’s like those big American candy shops with no customers ever.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5q92npm64o

ShockingBritain · 30/04/2026 13:49

AvacadoChic · 30/04/2026 13:13

I asked a friend who works for the police why these places aren't dealt with and how they are allowed to continue. She said that these places are run by large gangs who have much, much more money, resources and people than the police have. She said the police simply can't keep up with them, they are 20 steps ahead of the police on everything.

I see when the police do raid and they are shut down it is temporary and back open and up to the same tricks again. Large gangs shouldn't be controlling our high streets.

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Rubyupbeat · 30/04/2026 13:51

@angelos02what has?

ShockingBritain · 30/04/2026 13:51

meisafairy · 30/04/2026 13:33

So if an immigrant doesn’t work they’re bad, if they open a mini mart they’re bad???? Make your mind up!
And no I’m not on about the obvious laundering shops.
How dare a non white person run a business because you’re sick of it.
I'm Born and bred in the uk to parents who came here legally in the 60s, grandfather died in the war alongside British troops.
Sick to death of divisive rhetoric being normalised.
@mumsnet
needs to get on top of the racist drivel they allow.

I don't care what colour they are, where they were born or what religion, if any, they follow; what's important is that these are run by large organised crime gangs. That's what's important. There are lots of local stores run by immigrants and so what, they are legal, the only stores that shouldn't be operating is the fronts for criminal activity. Nothing racist in wanting crime tackled!

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AvacadoChic · 30/04/2026 13:52

Monty36 · 30/04/2026 13:16

You do not shrug your shoulders and give up. That is the function of the police. To make some inroads. To seek to stop it. No matter how small.
Saying it is all too hard so we do not try is unacceptable.

I'm not sure where you got that from. I didn't say they shrug their shoulders nor did I say they've given up. I said they can't keep up, they try but are always far behind the gangs.

The police are on a very tight budget, the gangs make millions from drug money and trafficking. It's not a level playing field.

ShockingBritain · 30/04/2026 13:53

meisafairy · 30/04/2026 13:33

So if an immigrant doesn’t work they’re bad, if they open a mini mart they’re bad???? Make your mind up!
And no I’m not on about the obvious laundering shops.
How dare a non white person run a business because you’re sick of it.
I'm Born and bred in the uk to parents who came here legally in the 60s, grandfather died in the war alongside British troops.
Sick to death of divisive rhetoric being normalised.
@mumsnet
needs to get on top of the racist drivel they allow.

Furthermore, when did wanting criminal activity stopping become racist. It isn't. You have completely missed the point of the concern.

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BG2015 · 30/04/2026 13:55

Car washes
Nail bars
Vape shops
barbers

All fronts for money laundering! And goodness knows what else.

Winter2020 · 30/04/2026 13:56

I think with the barbers shops people pay the shop to sponsor them for a skilled worker visa then after 5 years they can get leave to remain, open their own shop and in turn receive money from people to sponsor them to come to Britain.

Barber has now been taken off the skilled worker visa list I believe so these shops may close over time. The paying for a visa to come to Britain scam will have to pivot perhaps to sham care agencies or whatever else offers sponsorship visas.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/04/2026 13:59

Fluffordirt · 30/04/2026 13:03

What sort of dodgy shops do you use? You don’t have to them your bank details these days. Open banking means the retailer need never know their customers bank details.

I go to a local baker (cards only) I scan my phone when I pay, the money is taken from my account. The transactions are automatically added to the company’s accounts, the VAT is automatically accounted for. The retailer has no cash to lug around, no need to check staff members aren’t stealing, and they press one button at quarter end and a VAT return is filed. Press shouted at the end of the year and their tax return is filed. It’s a win for me as I don’t have to carry cash, it’s a win for the retailer as their accounting is simple and they don’t have to handle cash and it’s a win for the taxpayer as fraud / mistakes is hugely reduced.

Not everyone can use trusted local
shops.

When I travel I might need to buy a drink and something to eat in a dodgy place simply because there no other shops available. Cash only on such occasions.

meisafairy · 30/04/2026 14:00

ShockingBritain · 30/04/2026 13:53

Furthermore, when did wanting criminal activity stopping become racist. It isn't. You have completely missed the point of the concern.

You’ve missed the point as I was replying to Corlan not yourself, I’m not saying money launderers aren’t an issue.

You’re just stirring up thinly veiled race hate and again @mumsnet seems to allow this sentiment in this tinderbox society.

ShockingBritain · 30/04/2026 14:01

meisafairy · 30/04/2026 14:00

You’ve missed the point as I was replying to Corlan not yourself, I’m not saying money launderers aren’t an issue.

You’re just stirring up thinly veiled race hate and again @mumsnet seems to allow this sentiment in this tinderbox society.

Edited

I'm not stirring up race hate. I don't care who runs or owns these fronts for money laundering whether white or black or asian, it really doesn't matter, they are all bad.

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/04/2026 14:02

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/04/2026 13:59

Not everyone can use trusted local
shops.

When I travel I might need to buy a drink and something to eat in a dodgy place simply because there no other shops available. Cash only on such occasions.

Oh and these shops are in areas where I would not take my phone out.

DeathNote11 · 30/04/2026 14:08

The city where I used to work was shocking for this. There were machete incidents regularly where rival gangs (usually Pakistani vs Slovak) fought over control.

ERthree · 30/04/2026 14:18

And all these shops, barbers etc are staffed by doctors. engineers etc.
We have a Turkish barber in our town, he has been here for at least 20 years and he is fed up with the other dozen or so "Turkish barbers" in the town. Not one member of staff in any of them can speak Turkish, they are all Syrian and Afghani.
These shops need eradicating.

xanthomelana · 30/04/2026 14:25

DeathNote11 · 30/04/2026 14:08

The city where I used to work was shocking for this. There were machete incidents regularly where rival gangs (usually Pakistani vs Slovak) fought over control.

We had the same a few miles away from where I live. Openly fighting in the street with machetes when people were trying to go about their business. Everyone knows that you can get drugs from all of these places and when I’ve said this before on here I’ve been accused of lying and being racist. It must be lovely to live in an area where these places don’t exist so you don’t believe anywhere else has huge problems with them.

Damnd · 30/04/2026 14:33

Fluffordirt · 30/04/2026 09:02

I’m not shocked in the slightest. These illegal shops are quite brazen in our communities. The only shocking thing is that people are shocked. These shops will disappear the minute we move to a cashless society. The sooner the better.

How does that stop anything? They just move to different modalities.

5MinuteArgument · 30/04/2026 14:43

angelos02 · 30/04/2026 11:56

These things are only prevalent in certain areas. Thankfully I don't live in one of them but I'm sure it will happen everywhere eventually in the UK. Look how much it has changed in the last 30 years.

Yes, I think the fact that all this is happening in neighbourhoods far away from the people in power, people in the media etc has meant it's been easy to ignore and pretend everything's fine.

Now the unpleasantness is spreading, it's affecting more people, even the rich are having their fancy watches ripped from their wrists. We've got to wake up, start getting tough and ditch all the weakness and complacency.

Muffinmam · 30/04/2026 15:09

Illegal vapes and nangs are an issue in my country too.

The recently Police conducted raids across my city.

There is a bigger issue in the UK with politicians and police being unable or unwilling to deal with these issues. They could conduct raids and deport those found guilty of selling and seize their assets and sell them with money recovered to the government.

In my country if you’re found guilty of selling drugs the DPP will order all your assets to be sold. You essentially lose everything.

MissyB1 · 30/04/2026 15:22

Muffinmam · 30/04/2026 15:09

Illegal vapes and nangs are an issue in my country too.

The recently Police conducted raids across my city.

There is a bigger issue in the UK with politicians and police being unable or unwilling to deal with these issues. They could conduct raids and deport those found guilty of selling and seize their assets and sell them with money recovered to the government.

In my country if you’re found guilty of selling drugs the DPP will order all your assets to be sold. You essentially lose everything.

Yes I don’t think the consequences here are serious enough to scare the criminals.

Fluffordirt · 30/04/2026 15:31

When you drive without insurance your car can be crushed. We just need a law saying if a property is used for any money laundering then it’s confiscated by the state. They shouldn’t be free to reopen.

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