Shocking Britain

[ShockingBritain]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxplq92rx1o

The crime wave from overseas gang led, drug dealing, money laundering, fake cigarettes, etc dominating our High Streets.

Yes, we're really on a downward spiral. We're a very uncohesive society so unlike countries like Japan we can't rely on social norms to encourage people to behave well. We're also a very soft touch society. This is a disastrous combination.

We need to match our law enforcement and criminal justice systems to the reality of what's happening. We weren't always this weak and pathetic.

I'm a retired public sector worker, I'm sorry to say but myself and colleagues were often treated with aggression by customers. We were seen as fair game by them. Unfortunately, I think it's endemic in society that a number of people now think they have rights to anything. Saying no to them, because legislation or policy doesn't permit what they want, is like a red rag to a bull. They don't understand the process of any decision made about their request, don't want to and don't see that behaving aggressively isn't going to change minds.
We have been spat at, had chairs thrown at us, a colleague was nearly strangled by his tie when a customer pulled on it. I had to be escorted home from work one night due to threats. Some people are just angry most of the time. And that's not even organised crime, that's just Joe Bloggs , a perfectly ordinary person.

Yet if some call to order was to be made. The Gangs suddenly be turned into victims by the gullible and the political opponents to score some points. Part of the issue is Sadiq Khan who is shield behind his origin and background, a tactic of the left to get away with their agenda. In short the country is done.

The denial is awful, makes you feel like you're screaming into the void. Privileged people refusing to believe what others are living on a day to day basis. I'm finding it easier since I found other realists in my personal life who are honest & don't value "being kind" over the safety & quality of life of others. These fools have no idea what will be coming to a leafy suburb near them & their children soon. Police & councils have completely lost control.

I agree. My only hope is that once it starts affecting the leafy suburbs, there might be a wake up call. Law enforcement needs to be massively strengthened and the lawyer class needs to be shut down. It's what everybody wants.

I live somewhere that is essentially cashless, the only place that really takes cash is the airport. What is this inevitable outcome that we are suffering?

They are prevalent in my sleepy little Devon market town, our once lovely high street is full of vape shops, nail bars, American candy stores and a ridiculous amount of Turkish barbers, it’s certainly not confined to cities or big towns.

My parents used to run a shop, inspections were fairly regular and a surprise, sometimes checking goods, other times sending someone in who looked young to see if they could buy age restricted items etc. Is that not common place anymore?

We also need to ask, why is there such a demand for drugs. In no particular I would say erosion of religion, of extended family, loneliness, relentless bad news both nationally and internationally, Harder to just get by in an average wage, unaffordable housing etc

Country's awful, how much worse can it get. What are we going to hear next?

People threatening Trading Standards is just the lowest of the low.

No respect whatsoever. Just think they can do what they like. Close them all down that will teach them.

One cyber attack taking out or stealing data from payment systems and we're fucked, basically.

Totally agree. That's what happens in other parts of the world. We are too pussy to do it.

Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain are going to do it. Amazing man.

I don't agree with all of his politics, but he's certainly not suffering from the willful blindness of others. I think the fact he won't release the grooming gang report until after May elections is admirable. He's one of very few in the HoC that isn't using those girls' misery for political point scoring. For that alone he'll get my vote. But it's been a huge relief to have a party step up & unite those of us working & living amongst this dangerous chaos. It's felt like institutional gaslighting.

Lack of services & discrimination in the distribution of those services is fuelling deep resentment that people feel unable to voice due to accusations of racism & unkindness. It messes with their mental health, their lives feel hopeless & they're told they're lying when they attempt to voice their concerns. Drugs provide an escape. And we really should mention the socially acceptable addicts too (depression & anxiety meds). Get rid of the drugs & the lid will blow.

Britain summarised in a nutshell. We did not need to impoverish the working classes and promote inherited wealth. We did not need to destroy public finances by privatising everything in sight. We did not need to import millions of unknown men from misogynistic cultures every year. We did not need to encourage drugs or sacrifice more and more jobs to computers.

”Managed decline”? The only thing managed about it is the causes. They’ve been very deliberate choices , to enable greed of the well off chattering classes to take over the country and destroy both the economy and law and order. Britain has been here before and does know damn well the poverty, squalor, and suffering that it causes those of us not lucky enough to be born into inheritances. Britain just does not care.

We won’t forget this and we won’t “forgive” it, whatever the fuck that means in a country that deliberately destroys itself.

I think a big problem is as someone mentioned above. The police and local authorities have to work within very tight budgets and within the law in the actions that they take. Criminal gangs have huge ‘budgets’ and they are willing to use any and all means including violence, threats, intimidation and brutality to achieve their aims. It’s not a level playing field.

Organised crime is taking over the country. County lines, child exploitation, cash in hand, organised benefit fraud, illegal shops, laundering money. Successive governments allow it.

They use the under 18 police cadets for test purchases these days. My sons cadet group took part.

The rapid decline of the UK is shocking to see. There seems to be so many things happening that have a cause that is obvious to the public yet politicians hand wring and dance around the subject.

Here's an edited summary of the BBC report for quick viewing.

https://x.com/joerichlaw/status/2049979662164508921

It's shocking, it's more like how you'd imagine it is living in an African or Central American country, not the supposed first world.

I'm amazed and really encouraged that the BBC is reporting this.

I think we need a govt that will put massive investment into law enforcement, invest in our public services and ditch the fear of being accused of racism if they tackle corruption or gang based crime. Everyone should be treated the same, without fear or favour.

This isn’t specifically a Britain problem, it’s an international organised crime issue.

Deportation isn’t necessarily the answer here. The people working in the barbers may well have the right to work in the uk.
The problem is that it’s being used for money laundering, but that isn’t a deportation issue.

the best option seems to be to make it unattractive to operate here so they move to another country. The issues with that are:

1. you can’t close all loopholes - close one and another opportunity will pop up
2. crime doesn’t go away. Something else will take its place.

Agree. Not working or opening a dodgy looking business are not the only options available to us immigrants.
And sorry, but multiple “American candy” stores/ vape shops/ cash only barbers on an otherwise deserted high street can come across as somewhat dubious.

That may be the case, but all of this has got much worse. It didn't use to be this bad. Like shoplifting didn't use to be as bad as it is now. It's a whole society problem. And yes, certainly this is affecting lots of cities in Western Europe.