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Can a uni reliably say someone has used ai to create their work?

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Unissss · 29/04/2026 22:59

i personally don’t see how tbh

OP posts:
Unissss · Yesterday 19:37

ForeverTheOptomist · Yesterday 18:45

Yup. My previous post.

I also mentioned that the OP should have read through her essay before submission. The retort was that she didn't have time to due to a looming deadline. It seems that she will not accept anyone's suggestions, and is defensive at every turn.

I'm off.

Edited

I’ve said I should have I can’t go back in time unfortunately as much as I would love to

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MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:49

ButterYellowHair · Yesterday 17:05

Except you can’t because you don’t hand anything in physically any more. Only online.

I wouldn't attach myself to a university that didn't have actual buildings, I would visit said buildings and hand it over. And I would tell them exactly why. If they want to rely on AI to detect supposed plagiarism via AI, they can accept the consequences of that.

I wouldn't have had the courage when I was actually an undergraduate but now I'm in my 50s and have spent over 30 years in the workplace, I'm not at all afraid to stand up for myself.

ButterYellowHair · Yesterday 19:51

MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:49

I wouldn't attach myself to a university that didn't have actual buildings, I would visit said buildings and hand it over. And I would tell them exactly why. If they want to rely on AI to detect supposed plagiarism via AI, they can accept the consequences of that.

I wouldn't have had the courage when I was actually an undergraduate but now I'm in my 50s and have spent over 30 years in the workplace, I'm not at all afraid to stand up for myself.

No, of course they have buildings. What I mean is if you did that they would hand it back and say no because a) it breaks the anonymity of the submission and b) the marking process occurs in a programme online.

They would simply say you have failed if you don’t submit it in PDF form. I suppose you could scan it into a PDF. But a paper copy would not be accepted. You would fail and it would be your choice.

MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:54

ButterYellowHair · Yesterday 19:51

No, of course they have buildings. What I mean is if you did that they would hand it back and say no because a) it breaks the anonymity of the submission and b) the marking process occurs in a programme online.

They would simply say you have failed if you don’t submit it in PDF form. I suppose you could scan it into a PDF. But a paper copy would not be accepted. You would fail and it would be your choice.

Edited

They'd regret tangling with me like that.

ButterYellowHair · Yesterday 19:55

murasaki · Yesterday 17:10

I'd do partly what I did in the 90s, handwrite my notes and structure, then type up for submission. In the 90s, I had also handwritten the final version, obviously. I had one a week and a one to one supervision, so no hiding..... you can't really cheat like that with the Oxbridge system but it's not viable elsewhere.

In 2013-17 (my UG and MA days) we submitted online and a printed paper version. My university now they just want the online one. I don’t even know where my departments offices are… it’s a shame. I used to sit and drink wine with my professors.

ButterYellowHair · Yesterday 19:56

MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:54

They'd regret tangling with me like that.

Why? They’d just fail you and you’d be kicked off the course eventually. They don’t care about your preferences

titchy · Yesterday 21:12

MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:54

They'd regret tangling with me like that.

I’ve never once seen the OIA side with a student who decided to submit on their terms rather than those of their university. Hmm

Unissss · Yesterday 21:47

Thanks to everyone that said about Verision history I have checked and it’s there and shows me editing it since the 11th April to the 21st April so clearly shows like I said I spent a lot of time on it as I said.

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SnappyQuoter · Yesterday 22:30

MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:54

They'd regret tangling with me like that.

😂😂 who do you think you are? If any student behaved the way you are suggesting here then they’d simply be failed and off the course eventually. But you keep giving that as a suggested way to behave, good job!

Fgfgfg · Yesterday 23:30

MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:49

I wouldn't attach myself to a university that didn't have actual buildings, I would visit said buildings and hand it over. And I would tell them exactly why. If they want to rely on AI to detect supposed plagiarism via AI, they can accept the consequences of that.

I wouldn't have had the courage when I was actually an undergraduate but now I'm in my 50s and have spent over 30 years in the workplace, I'm not at all afraid to stand up for myself.

Then you wouldn't have complied with the submission requirements and you would fail. We're not even allowed to accept assignments by email because they all have to be uploaded. You could scan your handwritten version or upload photos of each page but our student office wouldn't accept your paper version. Also, what's to stop you generating an AI assignment and copying it out by hand?

murasaki · Yesterday 23:44

Unissss · Yesterday 21:47

Thanks to everyone that said about Verision history I have checked and it’s there and shows me editing it since the 11th April to the 21st April so clearly shows like I said I spent a lot of time on it as I said.

Good. Now you need the full AI history too. All the prompts....

But it's a gòod start.

Unissss · Today 09:01

murasaki · Yesterday 23:44

Good. Now you need the full AI history too. All the prompts....

But it's a gòod start.

I wasn’t logged in to it as don’t have an account but surely anyone could have used ai multiple times not logged in for example or had multiple accounts

OP posts:
murasaki · Today 09:42

Chat gpt saves things I've looked for and includes the whole conversation. But that's on the app, I'm not sure re a browser maybe others can advise.

Ormally · Today 11:28

MyBraveFace · Yesterday 19:49

I wouldn't attach myself to a university that didn't have actual buildings, I would visit said buildings and hand it over. And I would tell them exactly why. If they want to rely on AI to detect supposed plagiarism via AI, they can accept the consequences of that.

I wouldn't have had the courage when I was actually an undergraduate but now I'm in my 50s and have spent over 30 years in the workplace, I'm not at all afraid to stand up for myself.

My guess is that your hypothetical tutor would ask you to get it typed, or save the aggro and discussion and arrange this themselves (possibly charging you for it).

Just as there is an evolving network of theories, literature, personalities, and current vogue/taboo streams, there is a long history of turbulent students and the ways that they push the boundaries - in many places, it can be odd if they haven't had a learning experience from pushing the boundaries before offering up work that counts for higher stakes. The next cohort to fight their corner in the crab bucket that is professional academia will be quite skilled at pushing, tactical at shoving, but very good at 'just far enough, with some stylish throwing of gauntlets'. So experience of plagiarism and 'dissimulation' cases are also well developed (at this point) and all departments will be well used to conducting them year on year, whether for Undergrad, Master's, or Doctorate.

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · Today 12:33

murasaki · Today 09:42

Chat gpt saves things I've looked for and includes the whole conversation. But that's on the app, I'm not sure re a browser maybe others can advise.

the browser is pritty much the same as the app, you can make project folders for different topics,

MyBraveFace · Today 12:35

Ormally · Today 11:28

My guess is that your hypothetical tutor would ask you to get it typed, or save the aggro and discussion and arrange this themselves (possibly charging you for it).

Just as there is an evolving network of theories, literature, personalities, and current vogue/taboo streams, there is a long history of turbulent students and the ways that they push the boundaries - in many places, it can be odd if they haven't had a learning experience from pushing the boundaries before offering up work that counts for higher stakes. The next cohort to fight their corner in the crab bucket that is professional academia will be quite skilled at pushing, tactical at shoving, but very good at 'just far enough, with some stylish throwing of gauntlets'. So experience of plagiarism and 'dissimulation' cases are also well developed (at this point) and all departments will be well used to conducting them year on year, whether for Undergrad, Master's, or Doctorate.

I could, and would, type it myself if easier - I have a typewriter, as long as it's still possible to get a ribbon for it.

titchy · Today 14:04

MyBraveFace · Today 12:35

I could, and would, type it myself if easier - I have a typewriter, as long as it's still possible to get a ribbon for it.

And you’d be asked, again, to submit an online version to the portal. As per the regs that you signed up to.

murasaki · Today 14:07

titchy · Today 14:04

And you’d be asked, again, to submit an online version to the portal. As per the regs that you signed up to.

You've got to love these fools you think they can bend the regs to their will.

At least it gives the staff a good chuckle.

SnappyQuoter · Today 14:11

MyBraveFace · Today 12:35

I could, and would, type it myself if easier - I have a typewriter, as long as it's still possible to get a ribbon for it.

It’s a good thing you’re not actually going back to uni. How embarrassing to think you could behave that way though. You’re old enough to know better.

CreativeGreen · Today 15:46

MyBraveFace · Today 12:35

I could, and would, type it myself if easier - I have a typewriter, as long as it's still possible to get a ribbon for it.

Nobody would accept it. And the outcome of 'tangling with you' would be you'd end up failing and off the course.

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