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Is a St George cross an underlying sign of passive racism?

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ThatCyanJoker · 28/04/2026 19:04

Walked past the house of a relatively new friend today and was surprised to see they’ve put up a huge flagpole, complete with St George cross flag flying high. I am generally patriotic , and put out the bunting for notable occasions without a second thought. I would probably be pleased had it been a Union Jack, but the St George has an undertone of racism to me, unless it’s flown for the football World Cup or something.
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SuitcaseAndSecrets · Yesterday 21:29

From CHAT GPT.

No, displaying the St George's Cross on your house is not inherently racist.
It’s the national flag of England, and many people use it to show support during events like football tournaments, national celebrations, or simply to express English identity.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 21:33

Bunnyfuller1 · Yesterday 11:01

You cannot claim asylum from the UK until you are on UK land. Brexit created the boats, by removing the agreements we had with the EU for sending many back to the first safe country. The UK actively voted themselves OUT of that, and there is now nothing saying anything about settling in the first safe country. It’s also unfair to expect say, Turkey (who take around 100 times more asylum seekers than the UK) to have all because they’re the first ‘safe’ country.

@2dogsandabudgie unskilled roles are actually the ones that are the ones the UK struggles to fill actually. How many white British young people do you see working in the car washes? Or packing factories? Or cleaning in hospital?

How many white British young people do you see working in the car washes? Or packing factories? Or cleaning in hospital?

Car washes are often run by gangs using highly exploitative practices. Last time I was in a factory, there were plenty of white people working, ditto hospital. I’m not sure why you are implying that white peoples don’t work?

We have 5 million unemployed, our benefits bill now outstrips income tax revenue for the first time ever and it’s not sustainable.

Government figures show that white British have the lowest unemployment rates.

1. Main facts and figures
the overall unemployment rate in 2022 was 4%
3% of white people were unemployed in 2022, compared with 6% of people from all other ethnic groups combined
people from the combined Bangladeshi and Pakistani (9%), Asian ‘other’ (7%) and black (7%) ethnic groups had the highest unemployment rates out of all ethnic groups
white people had the lowest unemployment rates out of all ethnic groups (3%)
the unemployment rate for men and women was the same (4%)
in every ethnic group, 16 to 24 year olds were more likely to be unemployed than any other age group
out of all regions, Yorkshire and the Humber had the highest unemployment rates for people from the mixed (15%), ‘other’ (15%), and combined Pakistani and Bangladeshi (12%) ethnic groups

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/unemployment-and-economic-inactivity/unemployment/latest/

www.ntu.ac.uk/about-us/news/news-articles/2024/05/exploitation-in-the-hand-car-wash-sector

Unemployment

In 2022, people from the combined Bangladeshi and Pakistani (9%) ethnic group had the highest unemployment rate out of all ethnic groups.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/unemployment-and-economic-inactivity/unemployment/latest

CreativeGreen · Today 08:40

SuitcaseAndSecrets · Yesterday 21:29

From CHAT GPT.

No, displaying the St George's Cross on your house is not inherently racist.
It’s the national flag of England, and many people use it to show support during events like football tournaments, national celebrations, or simply to express English identity.

case closed then 😂

Swiftie1878 · Today 08:56

It was St George’s Day last week, and England are in the upcoming World Cup.

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